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72doug2,2S 10-18-2015 07:27 PM

Zombiecon 2015 Fatality
 
Nightmare on First Street: Fatal shooting at Zombicon

Lack of security at the event, so situational opportunist kills one, wounds four.

No one stopped this insane individual.

Nostril Cheese 10-18-2015 07:51 PM

If only we lived in a culture that didnt glorify violence towards the undead....

Arizona_928 10-18-2015 08:18 PM

^^ too soon

john70t 10-18-2015 08:34 PM

Expavious Tyrell Taylor.
Now a 6'4 240lb offensive lineman in college football.

Mamma did not love him.

ossiblue 10-18-2015 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 8841778)
Expavious Tyrell Taylor.
Now a 6'4 240lb offensive lineman in college football.

Mamma did not love him.

Expaviuos Tyrell Taylor was the victim. Not sure I understand your last sentence.

Evans, Marv 10-18-2015 09:02 PM

Never knew zombies could run so fast.

Scuba Steve 10-19-2015 04:02 AM

Things like this make me wonder sometimes if as a society, people have a little too much time on their hands?

onewhippedpuppy 10-19-2015 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Scuba Steve (Post 8841950)
Things like this make me wonder sometimes if as a society, people have a little too much time on their hands?

I think that is an underlying cause of many of modern society's woes.

GH85Carrera 10-19-2015 06:03 AM

I did see the humor in the fact that so many people there had fake blood on themselves it was hard to identify the real victims.

I just don't understand the love of zombies anymore than the fascination with vampires.

Of course there is much I just don't "get" or understand. I enjoy science fiction but I just can't even fathom getting dressed up as a character from a movie or TV show and going out in public. It is not my style.

Now get off my lawn.

cstreit 10-19-2015 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 8841955)
I think that is an underlying cause of many of modern society's woes.

Amen,

When you're worried about feeding the family or where you will sleep, you don't manufacture things to be offended by, or imagine yourself as squirrel-kin. We're victims of our own success and the need for people to have conflict with their environment.

wdfifteen 10-19-2015 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 8842055)
I just don't understand the love of zombies anymore than the fascination with vampires.

Me either. The zombie thing seems to be a relatively new phenomenon. I didn't even know what a zombie technically was until a few years ago. Now we have a "zombie walk" in our town every October.
There have been vampire movies since the early days of cinema. Nosferatu was a creepy movie, but one vampire movie was enough. Then Interview With a Vampire came along and all of the sudden vampires were sexy - another thing I don't get.

sammyg2 10-19-2015 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 8842055)
I did see the humor in the fact that so many people there had fake blood on themselves it was hard to identify the real victims.

I just don't understand the love of zombies anymore than the fascination with vampires.

Of course there is much I just don't "get" or understand. I enjoy science fiction but I just can't even fathom getting dressed up as a character from a movie or TV show and going out in public. It is not my style.

Now get off my lawn.

Lots of people in this world spend so much of their time PRETENDING to be someone they are not, they don't have enough time to develop a real personality or self-image.

IOW they are NOT real people.
And that is sad. Pitiful.

MRM 10-19-2015 09:09 AM

The zombie phenomenon seems to be a response to modernity and represents the unexpressed anxiety we all have with how complex our society has become. "Zombie" is a metaphor for all the hidden dangers of society. The beauty of it is that everyone has their own "zombie" - nuclear apocalypse, the breakdown of society, a massive grid-wide failure of all iPhones, etc. Whatever fear people have is projected into "zombies" and then is exorcised, so to speak, by dressing like zombies, zombie jokes, stockpiling ammo and food for the zombie apocalypse, etc. Zombies are just the current pop culture phenomenon of us recognizing and dealing with by making fun of our own personal demons, I mean fears.

Deschodt 10-19-2015 10:16 AM

It's also a "no-harm-done" target for violent movies/TV. Society is more politically correct. But you cannot offend any particular group casting bad guys as Nazis or Zombies. Nazis are getting a little old now, not so useful. Enter zombies!

john70t 10-19-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ossiblue (Post 8841802)
Expaviuos Tyrell Taylor was the victim.

(oops I read that wrong. joke attempt was fail as well. rewind/delete)

pcardude 10-19-2015 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MRM (Post 8842260)
The zombie phenomenon seems to be a response to modernity and represents the unexpressed anxiety we all have with how complex our society has become. "Zombie" is a metaphor for all the hidden dangers of society. The beauty of it is that everyone has their own "zombie" - nuclear apocalypse, the breakdown of society, a massive grid-wide failure of all iPhones, etc. Whatever fear people have is projected into "zombies" and then is exorcised, so to speak, by dressing like zombies, zombie jokes, stockpiling ammo and food for the zombie apocalypse, etc. Zombies are just the current pop culture phenomenon of us recognizing and dealing with by making fun of our own personal demons, I mean fears.

Plus you know it's fun and entertaining... And a great way to meet hot chicks.

Don't look too deep guys

72doug2,2S 10-22-2015 11:39 AM

Suspect is still on the loose, lot's of leads coming in.

scottmandue 10-22-2015 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRM (Post 8842260)
The zombie phenomenon seems to be a response to modernity and represents the unexpressed anxiety we all have with how complex our society has become. "Zombie" is a metaphor for all the hidden dangers of society. The beauty of it is that everyone has their own "zombie" - nuclear apocalypse, the breakdown of society, a massive grid-wide failure of all iPhones, etc. Whatever fear people have is projected into "zombies" and then is exorcised, so to speak, by dressing like zombies, zombie jokes, stockpiling ammo and food for the zombie apocalypse, etc. Zombies are just the current pop culture phenomenon of us recognizing and dealing with by making fun of our own personal demons, I mean fears.

Also note most of the zombie movies depict "a top secret government lab experimenting with bio engineering and accidently stumble across a virus that reanimates the dead."

The virus escapes and chaos ensues...

Thus tapping into the whole "the government is out of control" paranoia...

Not that the government isn't out of control, but that is another thread.

scottmandue 10-22-2015 12:53 PM

I feel bad for the people who got injured... sad that some nut job figured out how to take advantage of the situation.

I should have posted this first rather than pontificating on zombie culture.

pcardude 10-22-2015 02:30 PM

I hope they catch the guy.

WolfeMacleod 10-22-2015 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MRM (Post 8842260)
The zombie phenomenon seems to be a response to modernity and represents the unexpressed anxiety we all have with how complex our society has become. "Zombie" is a metaphor for all the hidden dangers of society.....

Zombie culture had ebbed and flowed for a long time. It seems to get stronger during times of social unrest.

War and Social Upheaval Cause Spikes in Zombie Movie Production

Nostril Cheese 10-22-2015 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 8842366)
It's also a "no-harm-done" target for violent movies/TV. Society is more politically correct. But you cannot offend any particular group casting bad guys as Nazis or Zombies. Nazis are getting a little old now, not so useful. Enter zombies!

Nazi zombies are something entirely different.

When you think about it, isnt Jesus essentially a zombie?

72doug2,2S 10-22-2015 05:47 PM

Jesus has the same body, wounds etc.

Quote:

by John MacArthur

First Corinthians 15 is the definitive chapter on the subject of resurrection. There Paul severely rebukes anyone who would doubt or question it: “But someone will ask, ‘How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?’” To which Paul responds, “You foolish person!” (1 Corinthians 15:35–36). That is one of the most caustic retorts in all the Pauline writings. But in Paul’s estimation, this doctrine is fundamental. To deny an actual, physical resurrection is to embrace something other than genuine Christianity: “For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins” (1 Corinthians 15:16–17).

God made human beings body and soul together. He “formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature” (Genesis 2:7). We consist of an inner self and an outer self (2 Corinthians 4:16). Therefore our ultimate perfection demands that both body and soul be renewed. Even the creation of a new heaven and earth demands that we have bodies—a physical earth calls for its inhabitants to have physical bodies. An honest approach to Scripture does not permit these realities to be simply spiritualized or allegorized. Eternal life as a mere state of mind would defeat the whole point of many of the promises of Scripture.

Death results in the separation of the body and the soul. Our bodies go to the grave and our spirits go to the Lord. The separation continues until the resurrection: “Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear His voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment” (John 5:28–29). Right now the souls of believers who have died are in heaven. Someday their bodies will be resurrected and joined to their spirits, and they will enjoy the eternal perfection of body and soul.

Similarly, the bodies of unbelievers who have died are in the grave, and their souls are in hell. There will also be a day when the bodies of the ungodly will be raised from the graves and joined to their spirits. They will then stand, body and soul, before the judgment throne of God and will be cast bodily into the lake of fire (cf. Revelation 20:11–15).

Christians need not dread that judgment. There is no possibility of condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:1). We eagerly await the redemption of our bodies (Romans 8:23). “For in this [body] we groan, longing to put on our heavenly dwelling” (2 Corinthians 5:2). Precisely what does this mean? Does it imply that we will receive all-new bodies? Will they be anything like our current bodies? Will we look anything like we do now?

First of all, note that our resurrection bodies are our earthly bodies, only glorified. The bodies we receive in the resurrection will have the same qualities as the glorified resurrection body of Christ. “We know that when He appears we shall be like Him“ (1 John 3:2).

Christ’s resurrection body was the same body as before, not a whole new one. After He arose, the tomb was empty. The body itself was resurrected—the very same body, but in a glorified state. The wounds from His crucifixion were still visible (John 20:27). He could be touched and handled—He was not merely an apparition or a phantom (Luke 24:39). He looked human in every regard. He conversed a long time with the disciples on the road to Emmaus, and they never once questioned His humanity (Luke 24:13–18). He ate real, earthly food with His friends on another occasion (Luke 24:42–43).

Yet His body also had otherworldly properties. He could pass through solid walls (John 20:19). He could appear in different forms so His identity was not immediately obvious (Mark 16:12). He could suddenly appear out of nowhere (Luke 24:36). And He could ascend directly into heaven in bodily form, with no adverse effect as He went through the atmosphere (Luke 24:51; Acts 1:9)

Our bodies will be exactly like that. They will be real, physical, genuinely human bodies—the very same bodies we have while on this earth—yet wholly perfected and glorified. Second Corinthians 5:1 calls the resurrection body “a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.”

First Thessalonians 4 describes how the earthly bodies of believers are reunited with their spirits. At the trumpet of God, “the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord” (1 Thessalonians 4:16–17).

Paul speaks of this same reality in 1 Corinthians 15:51–52, where he says,

Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.

Believers who are dead will be united with their perfected bodies; then those who are still alive will be caught up and instantly “changed.” So every Christian still living on the earth when Christ comes will be instantly perfected. And both the living and the dead will have their old bodies made new, glorified.

DanielDudley 10-23-2015 04:37 AM

WTF is Nostril Cheese anyway ?

I blame you for this.

GH85Carrera 10-23-2015 05:28 AM

So Doug PARFED his own thread.


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