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Tintype? Man, you must be older than you look. Was Mr Grant really the drunk they made him out to be?

In Sacramento County, if I were to shoot a coyote defending myself on the American River Parkway, I would almost certainly lose my weapon and go to jail. Good stout walking stick is all you need for one. If there were two or more, you would be in trouble with just a stick.

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It is within the law to protect yourself against predators anywhere in Texas. Former Presidential candidate, and former Governor, Rick Perry, whacked one while out for a jog, in the most liberal city in the state.

That's enough affirmation for me.
I'm in an unincorporated county area of Ventura Co. It is perfectly legal to discharge a firearm on my property, providing no neighbors are put as risk or complain. Here is the Kalifornia ruling on coyotes:

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Coyotes have no special protection in California and may be killed by any method that is not prohibited by federal, state, or local statutes.

Since the passage of a state ballot initiative measure in November 1998, leghold traps cannot be used to capture coyotes except in situations where a human health and safety emergency has been declared by designated officials, or in selected situations where the existence of an endangered species is threatened by predation. Toxicants or poisons used to control coyotes are illegal, with the exception of fumigant cartridges available only to predator control specialists to asphyxiate coyote pups in their dens. No chemical repellents are registered for use in repelling coyotes from property or from livestock.
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Tintype? Man, you must be older than you look. Was Mr Grant really the drunk they made him out to be?

In Sacramento County, if I were to shoot a coyote defending myself on the American River Parkway, I would almost certainly lose my weapon and go to jail. Good stout walking stick is all you need for one. If there were two or more, you would be in trouble with just a stick.
In essence, you would not be charged for killing the coyote on the American River Parkway, but you would be charged for discharging a firearm within city limits. A felony I think????
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Wow, those cams are really neat, amazing pics guys! Don't have one but think if I did, would capture some good shots. Just might put that on my santa wanty list.

Two years back, had a coyote 'blindly' run past me (... guessing 20 yards away) and was zeroed in on some small game. Then last Winter while out x-skiing, came across a deer carcass, cleaned down to the bone, bloody tracks all over. I'm always hearing the pup's yelping and even just yesterday at dusk - 6 / 7 pm.

Also, a few years back a State park that's adjacent to us picked up a lone grey wolf. Very unusual for the area! Apparently was hit by a car. The DNR decided to taxidermy and display it.

The elusive big cats too are making a comeback and of all places.... the northwest area of Chicago. A few reported spottings, positive tracks and tree markings.
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It is my birthday today. Took the morning off and my lovely wife and I are headed to DC this evening to have dinner with friends.

Grant was a maintenance drinker...a couple of Apple Brandys and all was well.
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We must be one of the few places where 'yotes are on the decline and wolves are expanding. As a young boy during deer season we would see several 'yotes but they have been hunted so relentlessly around here that they are pretty rare to see compared to years past. We still hear them at night, most nights. They have been hunted so hard because they were so plentiful that they were hunting in packs taking down large livestock with increased frequency. There is no closed season or bag limit on them here in WI and you an use dogs to hunt them. Honestly I disagree with allowing dogs to hunt them. I have seen two wolves in the past few years here. One crossing the road in front of me and the other near our house. My mom saw one running across the back fence-line at our house one day. That is a little too close for comfort, but in this case I am guessing he was on his way to new territory. We now have a wolf season as well since they are well established, but it is tightly controlled.

I will still take a shot at a coyote during deer season but don't actively hunt them now since their numbers are (in my lowly estimation) less than a tenth of what they were at their peak. Turkeys as well. We have flocks of 50 instead of 200. Ruffed Grouse is non-existent where we hunt and you used to see a dozen or so a day out in the woods.
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We have coyotes in the neighborhood every night. I often see signs posted "missing cat, Maltese, or chihuahua "... Guess what folks? We also have rabbits, squirrels, opossum, fox, skunks, coons, bobcat, rats, owls, red tails. They are all just doing their thing and except for the occasional rat invasion, don't bother me. I was walking my dog last night and a coyote crossed 10 yards or so in front of me. My dog is 50 lbs and I am pretty ugly and menacing so he just went on his way. Sometimes a cougar or black bear will come into the neighborhoods but it's pretty rare.

Once in a while we see a loner coyote that looks unhealthy and is actively hunting mid day. They will sometimes approach and act aggressively. We let animal control handle those since they may be carrying disease. They set live traps and either relocate or euthanize based on their health condition and threat to humans.
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Rats and ground squirrels are fair game year around for me. Boy can they mess up a garden.
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Rats and ground squirrels are fair game year around for me. Boy can they mess up a garden.
Amen brotha! You should shed what they do to avocados.
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It is my birthday today. Took the morning off and my lovely wife and I are headed to DC this evening to have dinner with friends.

Grant was a maintenance drinker...a couple of Apple Brandys and all was well.

Happy Birthday Paul...and many happy returns!
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We hear packs of the howling and yipping every night. Sometimes it sounds like they're no more than a 100 yards from the house. I never see the packs, but often see one lone coyote out in the daylight. I don't know if it's an outcast or just a straggler.
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About 2 years ago I was driving thru an "Urban" area on the southside of Chicago(Roseland to be exact) and I had to come to a stop cause this giant "dog" ran directly in front of my car. I said "Holy S*** that no FN dog" Seconds later a Animal Control van crossed in front of me followed by a cop car, in hot pursuit of said "dog"

The things that struck me were A. how long its torso was B. how beautiful its coat was C. how in the f did it make to 119 and Wentworth?
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It is my birthday today. Took the morning off and my lovely wife and I are headed to DC this evening to have dinner with friends.

Grant was a maintenance drinker...a couple of Apple Brandys and all was well.
Happy Birthday!!
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........the Coyote was a HUGE male.
The Australian wild dog is the dingo, we have huge problems with domestic / dingo hybrids. Do coyotes interbreed with wild or semi-wild domestic dogs?
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Do coyotes interbreed with wild or semi-wild domestic dogs?
People often speculate as to the frequency of coyote-dog hybrids, or coydogs, in urban settings. Coyotes and dogs are related, and they are biologically capable of producing hybrid litters. Coydogs have been raised in captivity. Genetic surveys of wild coyotes have rarely documented evidence of dogs in the genetic makeup of coyotes, despite domestic dogs and coyotes sharing the continent for the past 9,000 years. Although it is possible, coydogs in urban settings are unlikely
-Coyotes are highly seasonal breeders; dogs are not.
-Coydog females have a shifted estrus cycle that does not coincide with the coyote period.
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People often speculate as to the frequency of coyote-dog hybrids, or coydogs, in urban settings. Coyotes and dogs are related, and they are biologically capable of producing hybrid litters. Coydogs have been raised in captivity. Genetic surveys of wild coyotes have rarely documented evidence of dogs in the genetic makeup of coyotes, despite domestic dogs and coyotes sharing the continent for the past 9,000 years. Although it is possible, coydogs in urban settings are unlikely
-Coyotes are highly seasonal breeders; dogs are not.
-Coydog females have a shifted estrus cycle that does not coincide with the coyote period.
Seems they are mostly Coyote with a lot of Wolf and some dog thrown in.

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Here's another article on why the coywolf is spreading like crazy. Just happened to stumble upon it: Greater than the sum of its parts | The Economist
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So do you think that coyotes like wolf pussy or the other way around?

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