Weird, even for USPS

silverc4s · silverc4s's Garage

In my neighborhood, we are noticing a new phenomenon. I can't quite figure it out, and thought perhaps the PP brain trust could shed some light on this.
I and many of my neighbors apparently have signed up for Amazon Prime, which features free shipping, and generally 7 day a week delivery in a pretty quick manner, like 2 days.
It seems they are using USPS for some, but not all of this business, and the way these generally small packages are delivered is much more sloppy than the normal mail delivery.
I have found boxes on my lawn, on my sidewalk with one dented corner as if thrown from the truck, etc.
The latest is many folks here are saying they did not get a package that Amazon shows as delivered. I know there are a lot of things that could be going on here, but I am guessing that mail carriers are PO'd about this work for some reason. Any body have any ideas? Anyone else seeing this in their area?

ossiblue · 11-01-2015, 02:06 PM

Don't know if this is related, but I've been seeing the USPS making home deliveries on Sundays. Didn't understand why, but it may be connected to the Amazon situation you describe.

cashman · 11-01-2015, 02:22 PM

Sounds like they have gone to drone delivery that they have been discussing.

porsche4life · porsche4life's Garage

Around here it's a small carrier OnTrac delivery that delivers some of amazons stuff. I've had them be late or not deliver at all. Generally if it's usps fedex or ups it's fine though.

HardDrive · 11-01-2015, 02:44 PM

Subcontractors.

Geary · 11-01-2015, 02:55 PM

The OnTrac guys leave it out in the weather, rather than walk 10 more steps to the patio ..

SoCal911T · 11-01-2015, 04:08 PM

All of my Amazon Prime Sunday deliveries have been by USPS with no issues (yet).

Nickshu · Nickshu's Garage

I've been doing Amazon prime for at least 3 years now. Several orders per week, never had a problem getting deliveries. Yes I get Sunday deliveries w/ it all the time from both FedEx and USPS. Love Prime...driving to the store to find they don't have what I am looking for is a thing of the past!!

Arizona_928 · 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ossiblue

Don't know if this is related, but I've been seeing the USPS making home deliveries on Sundays. Didn't understand why, but it may be connected to the Amazon situation you describe.

I'm currently an RCA. And I can shed some light into some stuff. USPS has a contract with Amazon offering Sunday delivery. UPS, and FedEx even use USPS to deliver parcels since they do not have the infrastructure. With that said almost all USPS mail goes on FedEx, and UPS aircraft. Go figure. Also Amazon is very clever with using USPS. The GPS tracking on all scans has stopped a lot of customer stolen packages. Plus the fact you'll have an postal inspector prying into your life. Not to mention the conviction rate is something like 98% for the OIG. With that said though mis deliveries do happen. New Subdivisions will have enantiomer addresses.

As for the parcel issue. I had a situation I ran into today. Big dog guarding the house "teeth,drool,aggression". We have the right to make the judgement call to cancel delivery to said house until the dog is taken care of, and the postal inspectors will go out to talk to you to boot. With that said I took the ****ty LLV through the drive way and chucked the parcels out the window. You pay for Sunday delivery, not medical bills.

911_Dude · 11-02-2015, 02:47 AM

The USPS part of Amazon Prime sux. Whenever I see that the parcel went to USPS it usually means delivery a day late. Tracking will show "attempted delivery" which is total BS. My house has perfectly good city access with no obstacles or pets to deal with. I think it gets late in the day and the gov worker just says "F it, Im going on break". If it stays with UPS or Fedex its always on time.

Tobra · Tobra's Garage

I have had problems with packages disappearing off my front porch, which is why I always stipulate delivery to my office. When I was in Texas, I had UPS deliver something when I was out of town that was supposed to require a signature. I called them before I went out of town to instruct them to hold the package at the warehouse. They delivered it anyway, it sat out in the rain a few days and was ruined. Never had anything land in the yard, but have had them need to send something more than once because they could not manage to deliver it to the office, UPS and USPS.

If you don't sign for the package, how do they prove you got it, and not someone else?

Arizona_928 · 11-02-2015, 09:02 AM

The scanners have gps tracking. They know exactly which package was scanned at which house. ^^

As for the hate. You live back east. Unions really ruin it, but before you condemn people. Try living a day in someone's shoes who has never seen your house trying to drop something off. House numbers that are obstructed is plain cruel. Either way thanks for the stereotype.

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

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Originally Posted by ossiblue

Don't know if this is related, but I've been seeing the USPS making home deliveries on Sundays. Didn't understand why, but it may be connected to the Amazon situation you describe.

They are making business deliveries on the weekends and just leaving the packages outside of closed businesses.

Arizona_928 · 11-02-2015, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by red-beard

They are making business deliveries on the weekends and just leaving the packages outside of closed businesses.

That's actually in the Amazon contract. Amazon has specifically wanted carriers to leave it at the door. In turn, Amazon has taken full liability of said packages.

gacook · gacook's Garage

I've been using Amazon for a while now, and have only had 1 package show up as "Delivered" that I never received. Cheap item, so I simply wrote off the loss.

My "gripe" is when did UPS/USPS/FedEx guys stop ringing the bell to see if anyone's home? I've had multiple deliveries happen while I'm in my house, but the doorbell never rang. I understand they may be in a rush to get to the next dropoff location, but those extra 30 seconds to me go a long way in PR.

Tobra · Tobra's Garage

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Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid

The scanners have gps tracking. They know exactly which package was scanned at which house. ^^

That tells them they scanned it at my house. That does not tell them I actually received it. I have had stuff that was ostensibly delivered to my house that I never actually got. Again, how do they prove that something I actually got something I did not sign for?

The answer is that they can't prove I got it

Arizona_928 · 11-02-2015, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gacook

I've been using Amazon for a while now, and have only had 1 package show up as "Delivered" that I never received. Cheap item, so I simply wrote off the loss.

My "gripe" is when did UPS/USPS/FedEx guys stop ringing the bell to see if anyone's home? I've had multiple deliveries happen while I'm in my house, but the doorbell never rang. I understand they may be in a rush to get to the next dropoff location, but those extra 30 seconds to me go a long way in PR.

That's an union thing. They fought for the the right so that carriers are not required to do that. I do, because simply I'm not a Dick. That said unless you're 90 and need someone to say "HI" to I'm going to leave it and go to the next house.

With that said this ain't my career like half the other tards I work with.

And may I recommend the registered mail Tobra. If your carrier loses one of those, he will be fired!

greglepore · 11-03-2015, 05:25 AM

WTF? You say don't stereotype, then call half your coworkers tards?

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

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Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid

That's an union thing. They fought for the the right so that carriers are not required to do that. I do, because simply I'm not a Dick. That said unless you're 90 and need someone to say "HI" to I'm going to leave it and go to the next house.

With that said this ain't my career like half the other tards I work with.

And may I recommend the registered mail Tobra. If your carrier loses one of those, he will be fired!

I have had registered mail go lost in post Office 77040.

Arizona_928 · 11-03-2015, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by greglepore

WTF? You say don't stereotype, then call half your coworkers tards?

Look at this way. A monkey can put a piece of paper in a mailbox. A very smart monkey albeit.
I invite you to apply at your local office, and complete a shadow day. We are not paid hourly, we're on evaluated time. Carriers are union non-educated positions. Tards may have been harsh, but none of those guys are taking night classes either.

You have to be completely retarded to lose a Registered. It comes in a lock box with the other mail.