Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
least common denominator
 
scottmandue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Pedro,CA
Posts: 22,506
Any classical fans out there? Recommend a good Beethoven box set?

Specifically his {Beethoven} piano writings.
We rented 'Immortal Beloved' last night (1994 movie about Beethoven's life) and my wife was all ga-ga over his piano music and hinted that Christmas is right around the courner.
I have a smattering of classical CD's (most of which have been relegated to the garage) the usual suspects, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Brahms, Handel, Rachmaninov, etc.

I know we have classical lovers are out there.

Searched Amazon for 'Beethoven piano' and came up with a long list of options.

Will someone out the recommend a set of high quality recordings (for me) that has his... dare I say... 'top hits' (for my wife).

Thanks in advance!

And happy Thanksgiving!

__________________
Gary Fisher 29er
2019 Kia Stinger 2.0t gone
1995 Miata Sold
1984 944 Sold
I am not lost for I know where I am, however where I am is lost. - Winnie the poo.
Old 11-25-2015, 07:12 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Hell Belcho
 
Nostril Cheese's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Oz
Posts: 9,249
Live at Budokan was pretty good.
__________________
Saved by the buoyancy of citrus.
Old 11-25-2015, 07:23 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: North of You
Posts: 9,160
Very happy with this one...

__________________
"A machine you build yourself is a vote for a different way of life. There are things you have to earn with your hands."
Old 11-25-2015, 08:27 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Make Bruins Great Again
 
Por_sha911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: TN
Posts: 20,835
Garage
No suggestions on a box set but I do have an opinion.

This may get shot at but, I prefer Ludwig Von on vinyl. Has more soul.
__________________
--------------------------------------
Joe
See Porsche run. Run, Porsche, Run: `87 911 Carrera
Old 11-25-2015, 08:28 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Turgid Member
 
Noney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 425
A search for anything involving Beethoven will yield an enormous amount of hits, so it's tough to nail down exactly what you want. Luckily, you've narrowed it down to his piano works. Beethoven was an ace piano player and was known for his ability to improvise on the spot, so any interpretation of his piano works must be approached carefully and with great respect. In my mind, no one has done this as well as Richard Goode. Mr. Goode has dedicated the majority of his musical life to the interpretations of Beethoven's piano music, and he was the first American to record the complete Beethoven Sonatas. His works are very highly regarded by "the experts" and if you're looking for a place to start, these might bear further exploration.

The Sonatas
Beethoven: The Complete Piano Sonatas / Richard Goode - Nonesuch - NON 79328 - - HBDirect Classical

The Concertos
Beethoven: Piano Concertos / Fischer, Goode, Budapest, Festival Orchestra - Non - HBDirect Classical
__________________
'87 Carrera

"Man who go through airport turnstile sideways going to Bangkok"
Old 11-25-2015, 08:36 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
BE911SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: PNW
Posts: 2,977
__________________
'84 Carrera Cabriolet
Old 11-25-2015, 09:04 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
least common denominator
 
scottmandue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Pedro,CA
Posts: 22,506
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noney View Post
A search for anything involving Beethoven will yield an enormous amount of hits, so it's tough to nail down exactly what you want. Luckily, you've narrowed it down to his piano works. Beethoven was an ace piano player and was known for his ability to improvise on the spot, so any interpretation of his piano works must be approached carefully and with great respect. In my mind, no one has done this as well as Richard Goode. Mr. Goode has dedicated the majority of his musical life to the interpretations of Beethoven's piano music, and he was the first American to record the complete Beethoven Sonatas. His works are very highly regarded by "the experts" and if you're looking for a place to start, these might bear further exploration.

The Sonatas
Beethoven: The Complete Piano Sonatas / Richard Goode - Nonesuch - NON 79328 - - HBDirect Classical

The Concertos
Beethoven: Piano Concertos / Fischer, Goode, Budapest, Festival Orchestra - Non - HBDirect Classical
Thank you, as you say I started reading reviews of the different Beethoven recordings and there is a lot of love/hate for the different performers.
Have you heard any of Claudio Arrau's work? Friedrich Gulda? Daniel Barenboim?
__________________
Gary Fisher 29er
2019 Kia Stinger 2.0t gone
1995 Miata Sold
1984 944 Sold
I am not lost for I know where I am, however where I am is lost. - Winnie the poo.

Last edited by scottmandue; 11-25-2015 at 09:46 AM..
Old 11-25-2015, 09:30 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
varmint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: secure undisclosed locationville
Posts: 24,283
hard to beat the von Karajan symphonies collection.
__________________
1971 R75/5
2003 R1100S
2013 Ural Patrol
2023 R18
Old 11-25-2015, 09:33 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
least common denominator
 
scottmandue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Pedro,CA
Posts: 22,506
Quote:
Originally Posted by BE911SC View Post
I know the movie we watched was not a documentary but that is pretty funny, apparently Beethoven had quite a temper.
__________________
Gary Fisher 29er
2019 Kia Stinger 2.0t gone
1995 Miata Sold
1984 944 Sold
I am not lost for I know where I am, however where I am is lost. - Winnie the poo.
Old 11-25-2015, 09:48 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Used Up User
 
imcarthur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,311
Garage
Perhaps the most beloved Piano Sonata's are:

Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor ("Pathétique")
Piano Sonata No. 14 in C-sharp minor 'Sonata quasi una fantasia' ("Moonlight")
Piano Sonata No. 23 in F minor ("Appassionata") (1805)

Those would be a good starting point.

Ian
__________________
'87 Carrera Cab

----- “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” A. Einstein -----
Old 11-25-2015, 09:52 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Turgid Member
 
Noney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 425
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottmandue View Post
Thank you, as you say I started reading reviews of the different Beethoven recordings and there is a lot of love/hate for the different performers.
Have you heard any of Claudio Arrau's work?
I am only familiar with Arrau's Debussy and Liszt recordings, so I can't comment on his interpretations of Beethoven. Arrau is a legend and his catalog of recordings is so large that it's nearly impossible to digest all of them, but there's no denying his talent. One of the things I look forward to in retirement (hopefully) is having the time to get my arms completely around a body of work such as this. Hopefully I get there some day!

Beethoven was not an aristocrat or a land owner, but he still had the ego (and the talent!) to pretty much do as he liked. If you've read about Steve Jobs you'll know that despite his ego, temper, and general schitty attitude, people put up with him because of his god-given gifts. Same thing with Beethoven. He could be insufferable at times, but he wrote with such passion, conviction and sheer beauty that people were naturally drawn to him. It's this ego, passion and bigger-than-life persona that I feel really comes through in Richard Goode's interpretations.

Good luck in your search, music is a great gift!
__________________
'87 Carrera

"Man who go through airport turnstile sideways going to Bangkok"
Old 11-25-2015, 09:58 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
least common denominator
 
scottmandue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Pedro,CA
Posts: 22,506
Wifey just emailed me:

Beethoven: Complete Sonatas for Piano & Cello

Ludwig van Beethoven (Composer), Yo-Yo Ma (Performer), Emanuel Ax (Performer)

Not exactly what I was looking for but may be a cheap way out.
__________________
Gary Fisher 29er
2019 Kia Stinger 2.0t gone
1995 Miata Sold
1984 944 Sold
I am not lost for I know where I am, however where I am is lost. - Winnie the poo.
Old 11-25-2015, 10:49 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
least common denominator
 
scottmandue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Pedro,CA
Posts: 22,506
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noney View Post
I am only familiar with Arrau's Debussy and Liszt recordings, so I can't comment on his interpretations of Beethoven. Arrau is a legend and his catalog of recordings is so large that it's nearly impossible to digest all of them, but there's no denying his talent. One of the things I look forward to in retirement (hopefully) is having the time to get my arms completely around a body of work such as this. Hopefully I get there some day!

I feel really comes through in Richard Goode's interpretations.

Good luck in your search, music is a great gift!
How do you feel about "Emil Gilels Beethoven"? The problem with reading internet reviews is fans of the artist gush and there are always a few haters.

I feel the same way you do about retirement, except in my case it will be digging through my bookcase.
__________________
Gary Fisher 29er
2019 Kia Stinger 2.0t gone
1995 Miata Sold
1984 944 Sold
I am not lost for I know where I am, however where I am is lost. - Winnie the poo.
Old 11-25-2015, 11:00 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Model Citizen
 
herr_oberst's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: The Voodoo Lounge
Posts: 18,851
My favorite piece is "Moonlight" (Sonata #14), William Kempff on piano, from a 1995 vinyl album called:

"Beethoven, Piano Sonatas # 8, 14, 21 & 22"

I can play this over and over for an hour, and I often do.......it's been digitized and I listen at work through the headphones....

As far as a boxed set, I only have one, it's a Murray Hill recording of Josef Krips conducting the London Symphony called "Beethoven Complete Nine Symphonies" Released in 1960.

I've listened through just once in a long rainy weekend, but I don't remember anything memorable about it. It gets good reviews, though.

Last edited by herr_oberst; 11-25-2015 at 03:24 PM..
Old 11-25-2015, 12:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
BE911SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: PNW
Posts: 2,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottmandue View Post
I know the movie we watched was not a documentary but that is pretty funny, apparently Beethoven had quite a temper.
So did Schroeder.

__________________
'84 Carrera Cabriolet
Old 11-25-2015, 12:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
least common denominator
 
scottmandue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Pedro,CA
Posts: 22,506
Just cheaped out and ordered the Yo-Yo Ma CD.

Bookmarked the boxed sets to purchase for me after the holidays.

Thanks for your help!
__________________
Gary Fisher 29er
2019 Kia Stinger 2.0t gone
1995 Miata Sold
1984 944 Sold
I am not lost for I know where I am, however where I am is lost. - Winnie the poo.
Old 11-25-2015, 12:35 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Turgid Member
 
Noney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 425
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottmandue View Post
How do you feel about "Emil Gilels Beethoven"?
Sorry, I haven't heard Gilels' recordings.

I totally sympathize with your feelings about the reviews, however. A lot of the classical snobs will declare that their favorite recording is the pinnacle of music and the ONLY acceptable version, while others will purchase the same CD not realizing that it was recorded in the '50s or '60s and bash the hell out of it due to the lack of dynamic range and quality of the recording. Once you start to get into classical music, I think it's important to listen to different recordings of the same piece of music so that you can hear the different approaches that are taken. Even slight variations in emphasis and dynamics can drastically change the mood of a composition.

That Yo-Yo Ma CD you bought should go over well. He is a great "gateway drug" into the world of classical music and he's managed to walk the fine line between mass appeal and legit musicianship. Like Metallica, some people have thrown him under the bus for selling out, but I think he's the real deal and I still throw his CDs in on occasion.
__________________
'87 Carrera

"Man who go through airport turnstile sideways going to Bangkok"
Old 11-25-2015, 01:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Model Citizen
 
herr_oberst's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: The Voodoo Lounge
Posts: 18,851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese View Post
Live at Budokan was pretty good.
Old 11-25-2015, 03:25 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
5String
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, USA
Posts: 1,225
Piano? Hard to beat Arrou. And man, the 14th, "Moonlight," is something special, isn't it.
__________________
5String
Tell not a soul that you have seen me; breathe not a word of what I say....
The Northwest Files
Old 11-25-2015, 08:31 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
JCF JCF is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: The state of ME.
Posts: 1,736


You tube has an amazing selection of different performances - this by Arrau is beyond category.

Find an artist that resonates with you because all have different approaches to the music.
I really like Alfred Brendel.

- and then get multiple versions of the late sonatas -

__________________
Du must schwein haben

'67 901/05 rebuilt 2.2
Bultaco Metralla 62 "XDina"
'68 BMW R69S
Old 12-01-2015, 02:25 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:56 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.