Florida snake, bad or goodun?

[patz]

No, I wasn't cruising the bars.

Walking dogs and came across this one.

[74-911]

Coral snake.... bad .... red on yellow kill a fellow.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by patz

No, I wasn't cruising the bars.

Walking dogs and came across this one.

Coral snake.

Stay away.

Red touches yellow will kill a fellow.

[M.D. Holloway]

No worries, yellow on black is OK Jack...friendly fellas...have a go, they like to kiss your face...


OK , just kidding DONT MESS WITH IT...

[M.D. Holloway]

Coral Snake:






King Snake:

[enzo1]

coral snake... Instead of poetry, remembering that yellow touches both other colors can indicate a cause for caution.


North American coloration patterns[edit]
Coral snakes in North America are most notable for their red, yellow/white, and black colored banding. (However, several nonvenomous species have similar coloration, including the scarlet snake, genus Cemophora; some of the kingsnakes and milk snakes, genus Lampropeltis; and the shovelnose snakes, genus Chionactis.) In some regions, the order of the bands distinguishes between the non-venomous mimics and the venomous coral snakes, giving rise to quite a few mnemonics along the lines of "Red and yellow, kill a fellow. Red and black, venom lack." Instead of poetry, remembering that yellow touches both other colors can indicate a cause for caution. However, this reliably applies only to coral snakes native to North America: Micrurus fulvius (Eastern or common coral snake), Micrurus tener (Texas coral snake), and Micruroides euryxanthus (Arizona coral snake), found in the southern and western United States. Coral snakes found in other parts of the world can have distinctly different patterns, have red bands touching black bands, have only pink and blue banding, or have no banding at all.

Most species of coral snake are small in size. North American species average around 3 feet (91 cm) in length, but specimens of up to 5 feet (150 cm) or slightly larger have been reported. Aquatic species have flattened tails acting as a fin, aiding in swimming.

Behavior[edit]

Coral snake showing typically reclusive behavior of hiding under rotting wood. This one was over 30 inches (76 cm) long, but less than an inch (2.5 cm) across.
Coral snakes vary widely in their behavior, but most are very elusive, fossorial snakes which spend the vast majority of their time buried beneath the ground or in the leaf litter of a rainforest floor, coming to the surface only when it rains or during breeding season. Some species, like Micrurus surinamensis, are almost entirely aquatic and spend most of their lives in slow-moving bodies of water that have dense vegetation.

Coral snakes feed mostly on smaller snakes, lizards, frogs, nestling birds, small rodents, etc.

Like all elapid snakes, coral snakes possess a pair of small hollow fangs to deliver their venom. The fangs are positioned at the front of the mouth.[3][4] The fangs are fixed in position rather than retractable, and rather than being directly connected to the venom duct, they have a small groove through which the venom enters the base of the fangs.[5][6] Because the fangs are relatively small and inefficient for venom delivery, rather than biting quickly and letting go (like vipers), coral snakes tend to hold onto their prey and make chewing motions when biting.[5][7] The venom takes time to take full effect.[6]

Coral snakes are not aggressive or prone to biting and account for less than one percent of the number of snake bites each year in the United States.The life span of coral snakes in captivity is about 7 years.[8]

Distribution[edit]

Eastern coral snake, Micrurus fulvius
New World coral snakes exist in the southern range of many temperate U.S. states. Coral snakes are found in scattered localities in the southern coastal plain from North Carolina to Louisiana, including all of Florida. They can be found in pine and scrub oak sandhill habitats in parts of this range but sometimes inhabit hardwood areas and pine flatwoods that undergo seasonal flooding.[9]

There is controversy about the classification of the very similar Texas coral snake as a separate species. Its habitat, in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, and sometimes in Oklahoma due to floods in the Red River, is separated from the eastern habitat by the Mississippi River. The coral snake population is most dense in the southeast United States, but coral snakes have been spotted as far north as Kentucky.[10]

The Arizona coral snake, clearly a separate species and genus, is found in central and southern Arizona, extreme southwestern New Mexico and southward to Sinaloa in western Mexico. It occupies arid and semiarid regions in many different habitat types including thornscrub, desert-scrub, woodland, grassland and farmland. It is found in the plains and lower mountain slopes from sea level to 5800 feet (1768 m); often found in rocky areas.[11]

Danger to humans[edit]
New World coral snakes possess one of the most potent venoms of any North American snake. However, relatively few bites are recorded due to their reclusive nature and the fact they generally inhabit sparsely populated areas. According to the American National Institutes of Health, there are an average of 15–25 coral snake bites in the United States each year.[12]

When confronted by humans, coral snakes will almost always attempt to flee, and bite only as a last resort. In addition, coral snakes have short fangs (proteroglyph dentition) that cannot penetrate thick leather clothing. Any skin penetration however, is a medical emergency that requires immediate attention. Coral snakes have a powerful neurotoxin that paralyzes the breathing muscles; mechanical or artificial respiration, along with large doses of antivenom, are often required to save a victim's life. There is usually only mild pain associated with a bite, but respiratory failure can occur within hours.

Antivenom shortage[edit]
The bite of a coral snake may soon[when?] be more dangerous, in part because bites are so uncommon. Production of coral snake antivenom in the United States ceased because it is not profitable. According to Pfizer, the owner of the company that used to make Coralmyn, it would take over $5–$10 million to put toward researching a new synthetic antivenom.[citation needed][clarification needed] The cost was too large for the small number of cases presented each year. The American antivenom stock expired in 2008, but the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has extended the expiration date every year through at least 2013.[13] Foreign pharmaceutical manufacturers have produced other coral snake antivenoms, but the costs of licensing them in the United States have stalled availability (see above).[14] Instituto Bioclon is developing a coral snake antivenom.[15] In 2013, Pfizer was reportedly working on a new batch of antivenom but had not announced when it would become available.[13]

[GH85Carrera]

There are no bad snakes or good snakes, they are just snakes.

There are snakes in bad or inconvenient places, but the snake is just a snake. I don't want any venomous snakes around my property, same thing for spiders or scorpions.

[Deschodt]

Generally speaking if the head is (even a little ) wider than the body, no bueno. Pretty colors, also no bueno... Stay away from those ;-)

[mreid]

Dispatch that snake with prejudice! Clean anything it bites like the blade of the shovel used to chop it up, thoroughly and carefully. The venom is still active and is a nerve toxin for a long time.

[Laneco]

Red to black - venom lack.
Red to yellow - DEADLY FELLOW!

When in doubt, just take a page form the Beatles and "let it be!"

angela

[creaturecat]

i wouldn't have taken the time for a pic.
gone. outa there.

[stomachmonkey]

We have a large population of rat snacks, copper heads, and the occasional cotton mouth.

Every spring the uninformed idiots around here are quick to whack the head off anything that slithers which is more often the beneficial rat snakes.

If you are seeing snakes then there is most likely a food source like rodents.

Snakes, venomous and non keep the disease carrying rodent population in check.

Rat snakes are also known to eat young copperheads.

It's in everyone's best interest to learn how to identify venomous and non venous (beneficial) snakes and not go killing anything that moves.

[mreid]

There is a beautiful 5 foot rat snake living in my back yard. I hope it moves on soon. Not only is the wife terrified of it, that would indicate the rodent food supply is gone.

[vash]

Originally Posted by creaturecat

i wouldn't have taken the time for a pic.
gone. outa there.

the Asian dude pulling past you on your left would have been me..

GONE!

i dont kill snakes..only because i can still outrun them.

[Chocaholic]

My wife has a saying....the only good snake is a dead one. I mostly agree and steer clear.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by vash

the Asian dude pulling past you on your left would have been me..

GONE!

i dont kill snakes..only because i can still outrun them.

Earlier this year the kid across the street knocks and says "dads out of town, there's a copper head on the driveway, moms feeaking out"

Crap, ok, let me get some boots on and I'll be right over.

We walk up the drive way and he points to the portable basketball hoop and says "it's behind there"

So I creep over to look, don't see it so I get in closer and still nothing. Tell the kid "I think it crawled underneath, I'm going to tilt the hop, see if you can spot it"

I'm already right next to the pole and turn to grab it and all I see 3 inches from my face is a set of beady eyes and a flickering tongue.

Did you know a 50 year old dude can jump 20 feet across a drive way in one shot and his screams can be heard in the next county?

Turned out to be a rat snake which is a good thing, a copperhead bite to the face would have ruined my day.

[GH85Carrera]

One of my friends has the silly fear of any snake.

I still laugh at his reaction to a very small garter snake.

He screamed like a little girl and said "Look a Copper headed rattle Moccasin, with a Coral Tip"

[Ferraripete]

Originally Posted by vash

the Asian dude pulling past you on your left would have been me..

GONE!

i dont kill snakes..only because i can still outrun them.

lol....great response!!!

[Ferraripete]

by the way, it is my understanding coral snake sightings are quite rare. aslo my understanding that the coral snake venom is similar to that of a cobra...a bite from a coral will likely kill you.

they do not however have retractable fangs so even if bitten, they may not deliver the venom.

best to stay well away.

[vash]

all honesty..i'm not scared of snakes. had many as pets.

it's the Surprise factor that gets me. walking around peacefully, step over a rock..

dont let that shrill muffled shriek coming from my face lead you to believe i'm scared.. it surprised me. i wish they were all easy to see, and made noise. warning noises.