Tell me about the 997 GTS

[tevake]

My nephew has got the Porsche bug, and for his first venture into the Mark is looking at newer models than I'm familiar with. His current thinking is leaning toward 997 turbos or the GTS.

Both of the reviews of the GTS that I've read say the ride is harsh up to around 40 mph. Any experience of that?

Personally I'm drawn to the GTS. But would appreciate any details about both models.
Relative street driving qualities, cost of ownership, maintaince differences etc.
How much warenty is available for CPO cars of that age?

Cheers Richard

[speeder]

Haven't driven that model but would be curious also. I saw one recently on eBay that was stalled at a pretty reasonable price, maybe $60k for a 2011 with a $120k MSRP(?)

Not sure what it actually sold for, (or if it did).

[aigel]

Really - you'd want the GTS over a Turbo? It isn't that the GTS is a light weight narrow body car either. In my book it was always a warmed over special model at the end of the 997 line. I am no expert, but isn't the case on the 997.1 still the old Mezger setup? I'd buy that over a later engine all day long.

That's all I have to offer. I wish I had the dough for a 997 Turbo...

G

[speeder]

A 997tt is an awesome car but like all 911 turbo variants, it comes with a lot of extra weight and complexity that doesn't appeal to me in a sports car. The 997 GTS is not a turbo bodied car, just a Carrera S with some extra sauce.

[tevake]

The GTS can be had much more afford ably than the turbo. Still has the wide body, more torque at lower revs, much better sound at street driving speeds, nice bump in HP over the S model, avoids the costs and complexity associated with the turbo. Yep I like them.
But It's all academics for me, just trying to get some hands on perspective for the nephew.

You are right Dennis the prices are realistic for the GTS.
Found a nice 2012 CPO car with 18k miles for 80k. But the dealer didn't want to offer much for his 2011 M3 in trade, so he is still looking.

Cheers Richard

[aigel]

Extra sauce? 408 hp vs. 385 ... meh ...

I thought the S was the same width as the Turbo. What is the curb weight difference between the turbo and the GTS?

G

[aigel]

I always wonder what the big deal is with 'complexity' buying a $80k CPO car. It isn't that you are going to wrench on it. Most cars have turbos nowadays, soon every 911 too ...

G

[CarreraDan]

FYI, the Porsche CPO is 6 years from original in service date or 100k miles, whichever comes first. Has been a great piece of mind for my 2012 Cayman which has yet to had as much as a hiccup in the 8k miles I have driven it. I do need a new passenger mirror glass as mine is fogged/blurry. Local dealer said no problem and will order the glass next time I am in--2 hours away and roads are salty now so it can wait. You can search CPO cars off Porsche's website as it pulls the dealer's inventory for you to one place.

[KNS]

The GTS has the M97 engine, correct..?

[masraum]

If he can find a GTS with PASM, he'll get 2 rides (ride quality). The Active suspension (struts) is quite different between the regular and sport setting. I've heard that the soft setting of PASM is softer than the regular suspension (not necessarily body roll, more about how you feel the bumps) and the sport setting is firmer. My boxster has it and I can believe it.

I'm not certain if PASM was an option on the GTS, but I suspect it was.

[tevake]

Yep the GTS that Jay, my nephew was last considering had the PASM. But that was mentioned in one of the reviews that I looked at. And was said not to have changed the ride at low speed all that much. This really surprised me as the use of PASM seems the answer to the issue.

He has done a test drive in a 991 GTS. which brought him around to considering it along with the turbo. Now budget considerations have him looking at the 997

Thanks for the details on the CPO warranty details Dan. What I thought I'd heard from Jay was a bit more duration on the warranty still left. I'll convey that to him.

So has any one driven both the 997 and 991 GTS ? A ride comparison would be enlightening.

And a first hand look at the 997 GTS vs turbo would help me be a little more conversant with Jay on these newer cars.

Thanks for the input!

Cheers Richard

[don911]

PASM should be standard on GTS and I think the S. PASM sport suspension is an option. Here's a site for all of the brochures to compare models.. https://www.stuttcars.com/technical/catalogues/

I was looking for a 997 GTS a few months ago but ended up buying a 991 with manual tranny, PASM sport suspension, sport exhaust and torque vectoring. For similar money, I'd get a well optioned 991 but that's just my opinion since I like the exterior and interior design of the 991 over the 997.

If he can swing a 991 GTS, that would be a sweet ride.

[johnkszabo]

I drove a 2015 GTS at a driving event in November and really liked it.I also drove a 2015 911 S at the same event and much preferred the GTS over it. Both cars had PDK and I was a sceptic of that till I drove them both and my opinion quickly changed. John Szabo

[speeder]

Ran into a friend last week downtown in his new 991 GTS w/ manual transmission. 50-something year old former pro skateboarder, just married a beautiful woman and had a baby. The 991 was a gift from his bride.

Hard knock life.

[2porscheguy]

Richard, I can't speak for the GTS...sounds like an awesome 997. About two years ago, I traded in my 2006 997 C4S (That whole IMS issue kinda freaked me out just a little...) for a 2007 TT...what a difference in performance I must say! I'm no track star but the TT is a rocket compared to the C4S. Plus having the tried n true Mezger powerplant is definitely a big bonus.

The only issue with the 997.1TTs (and GT3s, GT2s) is the coolant system. They are prone to sudden coolant loss should one of the coolant pipes dislodge. This seems to occur at the 70-100K kms mark. There is a fix for that....Sharkwerks has a stainless steel coolant pipe replacement kit whereby the pipes are actually welded in place instead of glued (Porsche what were you thinking!!!). It cost me about $3500 to have this repair done to mine at about 95k Kms.

[Deschodt]

Originally Posted by KNS

The GTS has the M97 engine, correct..?

M97 is until 2008 models.... 09+ have the new block. So no (it has the good engine)