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Paul_Heery 02-06-2016 04:14 AM

Guess the final bid on this 914-6
 
I came across this listing on the PP Porsches for sale section. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/901333-restored-numbers-matching-1970-914-6-a.html It has a link to this ebay listing, Porsche 914 914 6 | eBay

The starting price for the auction was $914.06. As of this writing, the current bid is $70,100.00 and the reserve has not yet been met. The market for 914s has been on the rise. But the seller may have overestimated the market with his reserve.

Provide your guess as to what the final bid will be and if it will meet the reserve.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454689924.jpg

rfuerst911sc 02-06-2016 04:52 AM

Not too many out there in this condition so my guess is the reserve is 80k and it will sell for 85k .

tabs 02-06-2016 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 8986847)
Not too many out there in this condition so my guess is the reserve is 80k and it will sell for 85k .

I would say 95K reserve it will exceed that and go to around 100k.

targa911S 02-06-2016 06:22 AM

my guess is the reserve is ridiculous, and the final bid will be stupid.

javadog 02-06-2016 06:48 AM

6 months ago, I would have said $90-95k. Given the pessimistic outlook for the immediate future, I'd say the market is a little softer now. I'd say that the seller has a little over $100k in the car.

He should have gone just a little bit further with the restoration, there are some details that might hold the price back.

JR

Tobra 02-06-2016 06:49 AM

I like the wheels and the color. It will be at least 60 times what I paid for mine

HardDrive 02-06-2016 06:52 AM

I simply don't get it. I liked my SC. But the prices are absurd. The car makes 180hp. A new Camry would smoke it in a straight line.

nota 02-06-2016 06:53 AM

140k buy it now for this one

Porsche 914 Nut Bolt Bare Metal Complete All Matching 'S | eBay

Porsche-O-Phile 02-06-2016 07:02 AM

And it probably still has lots of rust around the hell hole / battery compartment. I think they came pre-corroded from the factory like that. Option code FE2O3.

speeder 02-06-2016 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 8986957)
6 months ago, I would have said $90-95k. Given the pessimistic outlook for the immediate future, I'd say the market is a little softer now. I'd say that the seller has a little over $100k in the car.

He should have gone just a little bit further with the restoration, there are some details that might hold the price back.

JR

The shut lines of both trunks look a little off in the photos, other than that it looks great. Those may be nothing serious, just a minor adjustment of one headlight, etc.

What are you seeing? The guy wrote a good eBay ad. :cool:

javadog 02-06-2016 07:21 AM

The problem with the shut lines is a combination of poor adjustment and new seals. The front trunk is especially bad when a new seal is installed. In my view, the bulkhead in front of the fuel tank needs to be cut down on these cars.

He should have gone further with the mechanicals. A full rebuild of the motor would have been better than a top-end rebuild. Etc.

The car could have been detailed a lot better, especially underneath. Look at the suspension arms, or the exhaust.

For a car that is mostly stock, they should have restored it to 100% original. I suspect from the wording of the ad, things like the wheels may have been changed.

I don't like cars that have the odometer set to zero after a restoration.

It would have been nice to see things like the tool kit in better condition.

Etc.

JR

rusnak 02-06-2016 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nota (Post 8986968)

The tool kit is missing several tools, and that is not the original spark plug wrench. Otherwise, from what is shown, very original 914-6.

mikester 02-06-2016 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 8986978)
And it probably still has lots of rust around the hell hole / battery compartment. I think they came pre-corroded from the factory like that. Option code FE2O3.

Damn that was good.

speeder 02-06-2016 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 8987004)
The problem with the shut lines is a combination of poor adjustment and new seals. The front trunk is especially bad when a new seal is installed. In my view, the bulkhead in front of the fuel tank needs to be cut down on these cars.

He should have gone further with the mechanicals. A full rebuild of the motor would have been better than a top-end rebuild. Etc.

The car could have been detailed a lot better, especially underneath. Look at the suspension arms, or the exhaust.

For a car that is mostly stock, they should have restored it to 100% original. I suspect from the wording of the ad, things like the wheels may have been changed.

I don't like cars that have the odometer set to zero after a restoration.

It would have been nice to see things like the tool kit in better condition.

Etc.

JR

I can't say that I disagree with any of your observations but we are tough customers on these cars because we've been around long enough to know the "old market". In 2016, some "investor" trying to put together a Porsche collection will snap this up with no clue that these cars were not powder coated underneath, etc.

It's still a nice car that could be easily made correct. Most of what's out there, at least publicly advertised, is absolute dreck these days.

tcar 02-06-2016 10:09 AM

Love the North American L-17 Navion and the North American F-86 Sabre in the car show pic.

Don't see those every day.

javadog 02-06-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 8987149)
In 2016, some "investor" trying to put together a Porsche collection will snap this up with no clue that these cars were not powder coated underneath, etc.

It's possible. One caveat, though. I think the rich guy that's just getting into the Porsche market won't look at a 914. He'll buy a 911, or a 356. The guy that drops $100k on a 914 will either have a lot of time with the brand, or have someone advising him. Everybody I know that's got the money to build a collection has an adviser or two.

JR

rusnak 02-06-2016 11:47 AM

Well you can assume that someone who will spend $100K on a collectible car also spends time on the forums.

The Mahle gas burner wheels on the first 914-6 are what makes that car IMO. Fantastic light weight wheels.

scottmandue 02-06-2016 12:06 PM

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Racerbvd 02-06-2016 04:33 PM

I'm watching this one too, since I'm finishing up a full restoration.

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And it probably still has lots of rust around the hell hole / battery compartment. I think they came pre-corroded from the factory like that. Option code FE2O3.
Not all of them. Those shocks are just for assembly, the correct ones will be installed later.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454803532.jpg

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I simply don't get it. I liked my SC. But the prices are absurd. The car makes 180hp. A new Camry would smoke it in a straight line.
And in depreciation, plus aren't nearly as enjoyable as my SCs or 914s.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454804242.jpg

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I like the wheels and the color.

I love the rims too, other than the White int, this is what mine will look like.

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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454804428.jpg

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He should have gone further with the mechanicals. A full rebuild of the motor would have been better than a top-end rebuild. Etc.

The car could have been detailed a lot better, especially underneath. Look at the suspension arms, or the exhaust.

Did the full rebuild, and added a few ponies
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454804584.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454804608.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454804668.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454804702.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454804723.jpg

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I can't say that I disagree with any of your observations but we are tough customers on these cars because we've been around long enough to know the "old market". In 2016, some "investor" trying to put together a Porsche collection will snap this up with no clue that these cars were not powder coated underneath, etc.
True, they weren't powder coated, but I talked to the head guy from Porsche Restoration a few years back (before having my parts powder coated) and he informed me that they are powder coating the susp & other parts now, and the 911 they restored and gave away a few years back had powder coated susp.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454804990.jpg

rwest 02-06-2016 05:23 PM

Byron,

Is yours an original 6?

Looks awesome in any case, nice work!


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