The Nexcel Oil Cell...now this is way cool...

[M.D. Holloway]

I wanted to share this new engine oil / filter technology. This may be old news but I have never heard of it or seen it before and frankly it seems like an ingenious product for several reasons. Clink on the links for the images and further information. When you see this technology you will wonder why it wasn’t done sooner.

The Nexcel oil cell is an easy-to-change unit containing both engine oil and filter.

• Nexcel has been designed to reduce tailpipe carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions by ensuring a precise oil-engine match and helping the oil to warm up more quickly.

• The plug’n’play oil cell slots in and out under the bonnet, changing oil & filter in one quick, clean step taking about 90 seconds and allowing installers to offer more flexible and convenient service options to customers.

• The sealed oil cell ensures that used oil is collected safely & can be recycled back into high quality engine oil products.

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Castrol Nexcel gives you a 90 second engine oil change, debuts on Aston Martin Vulcan - Pocket-lint

This is something that Aston Martin Vulcan is implementing. These are considered exceptionally expensive supercars, it sure does seem like a very doable product in the future for regular vehicles.

[M.D. Holloway]

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

Seems like a great idea!
Now JiFFy Oil will be able to do the job!

They will be out of business. You can pick up your oil cell at Walmart and drop off your old one like changing a propane tank...

[oldE]

Welcome to the $100 oil change!

I'm not sure how it is supposed to reduce emissions by ensuring the proper oil is used. You either have the proper oil or you don't.
Engine compartments are already crowded. Now you want to make room for a filter cartridge which can hold the appropriate oil supply for that vehicle?
Oil changes for many vehicles are going to longer periods. You may save the trouble of putting the car on a lift to change oil, but is it worth it?

Best
Les

[LEAKYSEALS951]

1200-1600 PPM Zn?
Eh... probably not!

[oldE]

Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway

They will be out of business. You can pick up your oil cell at Walmart and drop off your old one like changing a propane tank...

I would question the sheer number of permutations and combinations of filter types, oil types and oil volumes for various cars. I forsee major inventory problems.

Best
Les

[KNS]

You'll only be able to buy your oil "cartridge" at the dealer, at least in the beginning.

[ltusler]

Doesn't look like it holds a complete change?

[fanaudical]

Interesting. I'm guessing this requires dry-sump engine design?

Hopefully those Nexcell's are collected/re-used (otherwise we'll have a heck of a landfill issue...).

[wdfifteen]

One less high school grad needed by your servicing dealer. I can see this as becoming huge. Your dealer obviously needs no $30/hr trained tech to change the oil. Send the car to the car wash lane, the oil change lane, the tire pressure lane, and it can be "serviced" by people who don't know which end of a screwdriver to hammer on.

[fanaudical]

On another note, we'll probably see widespread electric vehicle use before this catches on with the auto industry...

[M.D. Holloway]

if the fittings are universal (think a propane tank) then changing an oil would be as simple as changing a battery...

[ckelly78z]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

One less high school grad needed by your servicing dealer. I can see this as becoming huge. Your dealer obviously needs no $30/hr trained tech to change the oil. Send the car to the car wash lane, the oil change lane, the tire pressure lane, and it can be "serviced" by people who don't know which end of a screwdriver to hammer on.

But what about the DIY crowd, this is just another ploy to get the car into the dealership for inspection, and the subsequent, guilting the customer into additional "safety" procedures, like brakes, tires, suspension bushings, shocks, or whatever the dealership deems neccesary.

There is something to be said for taking the time to crawl under the car yourself, and change your own oil, and do your own inspections. I realize this world is becoming more "no hassle-hands off" each and every day.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by oldE

I would question the sheer number of permutations and combinations of filter types, oil types and oil volumes for various cars. I forsee major inventory problems.

Best
Les

Originally Posted by fanaudical

Interesting. I'm guessing this requires dry-sump engine design?

Hopefully those Nexcell's are collected/re-used (otherwise we'll have a heck of a landfill issue...).

Dry sump is the answer to the capacity issue.

Filter and oil type should not be more of an issue to deal with than it is to maintain current filter / oil inventory.

Granted there is the additional issue of filter and oil type combinations but a change to the design that allows for a filter cartridge would fix that.

[Por_sha911]

I suspect this could further eliminate the ability of the car owner to do his own maintenance at a reasonable price. As someone already said, the cell will be a dealer only item. Probably, using after market cells will void warranty.
You will have to pay top dollar for the convenience (think pre made bagged salad versus cut up the ingredients yourself).
The manufacturers will sell the govt on mandating this since it will eliminate improper disposal of the oil and the environmental bleeding hearts will buy in hook line and sinker.
Question: what do you do when you need to add 1/2 a quart?

[GH85Carrera]

I was chatting with a fellow PCA member at a recent club breakfast. He asked about oil changes. He drive a new Cayman S. He said he paid $200 for an oil change at the dealer.

My wife has an 2008 Infinity G35x bought new. She takes it to the dealer that is the same one for the Porsche, and just next door. She pays $45 for synthetic oil and the filter. They wash her car and have it done in 30 or 40 minutes. I could not do it much cheaper if I did it myself and I don't have to wash her car.

It will take a lot of years before that oil cell becomes common. I wonder how they will price a Porsche version vs Infinity version.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

Question: what do you do when you need to add 1/2 a quart?

It will have a sensor that monitors capacity (translating to loss) and will prompt you to get an exchange so the dealer can recommend service to address the excess consumption issue.

Since it's a dry sump system (assumed) the cartridge could (and probably would) carry more oil than minimally required.

Remember since it's dry sump you could carry anywhere from the minimum to multiple x's what you need.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

It will have a sensor that monitors capacity (translating to loss) and will prompt you to get an exchange so the dealer can recommend service to address the excess consumption issue.

Porsche will tell you that consumption is within acceptable tolerances and all repairs are at your expense.

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Since it's a dry sump system (assumed) the cartridge could (and probably would) carry more oil than minimally required.
Remember since it's dry sump you could carry anywhere from the minimum to multiple x's what you need.

That won't fly with manufacturers. They want to setup the absolute minimum amount needed to keep weight down to keep up with EPA absurdly set MPG mandates.

Sadly, the dealers already live in a plug and play world that no longer requires diagnosis, just replace the cell instead of repair the problem.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Since it's a dry sump system (assumed) the cartridge could (and probably would) carry more oil than minimally required.

My thought. Only the higher end cars run dry sump.

[john70t]

Filter+sump. Like the idea but:

More weight up top.
Never fit in most engine compartments.
Design will tear their hair out.
No gravity assistance of larger residual particles.
Seals on bottom will leak and small apertures will clog. Lawsuits ala class action.
Manufacturers bound to single source unless multiple licensees issued (not going to happen).
Service loses their gravy train of up-sales while vehicle is in the shop.