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Deschodt 03-01-2016 07:22 AM

The new 911 R
 
Probably will be sold out before it reaches our shores... GT3RS engine, no aero, back seat, and a 6 speed manual !!


Porsche 911 R preview - prices, specs and 0-60 time | Evo

I find that latest tidbit interesting unless it's a mistake... I never took to the 7 speed manual when test driving it... Back to 6 huh ? ;-)

widgeon13 03-01-2016 07:49 AM

How much?

Deschodt 03-01-2016 07:53 AM

I don't know... They haven't said yet... Everyone suspects close to the GT3RS. Serious $$$, instant collectible too... I expect dealer markup to boot !

KNS 03-01-2016 08:14 AM

Only 991 examples and apparently they're already sold. Thanks Porsche for making a 911 that many of us would like but few can have. I don't have any interest in 918s, etc. but this is a modern Porsche that I would like to have (regular 991 doesn't interest me either).

Deschodt 03-01-2016 08:16 AM

Apparently 918 buyers got first dibs. A perfec illustration of easy money for people who already have tons of money. The rest of us can dream.... I only brought it up because I am intrigued by the 6 speed reversal... I prefer the 6 box too, I'll be interested to hear why they went to that vs the 7 speed manual they foisted on the regular 991.

onewhippedpuppy 03-01-2016 08:53 AM

Supposedly already sold out. Porsche has learned from Ferrari by catering to their best customers with special edition cars, offered privately before they ever hit the open market. This is not a car for us.

Bill Douglas 03-01-2016 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9018800)
Supposedly already sold out. Porsche has learned from Ferrari by catering to their best customers with special edition cars, offered privately before they ever hit the open market. This is not a car for us.


It is, but we have to wait 15 years.

ckelly78z 03-01-2016 10:11 AM

O K , I really really want ! 493 naturally aspirated HP at 8250 rpm with no sound deadening, and only 2750 pounds, and a real 6 speed manual trans ? Wow, what a brain scrambling ride that will be.

Deschodt 03-01-2016 10:15 AM

Get in line behind Bill, in 15 years ;-) I'm gonna wait for a 997.2 GTS myself, less expensive and probably the last modern 911 that interests me. Might cave for a newer Cayman S instead by the time I save enough !

Ronbo 03-01-2016 11:45 AM

The 911R should be the standard base 911 model sold, and not just to a very limited audience.

KNS 03-01-2016 02:30 PM

^^Agree 100%

sand_man 03-01-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbo (Post 9019047)
the 911r should be the standard base 911 model sold, and not just to a very limited audience.

^^^this!

aigel 03-01-2016 02:57 PM

Sad thing is that most will never see the duty they are intended for.

In 15 years these will be collector items, nothing we will be taking to the track then either.

I will cry a little in my 6 speed 993 tonight ...

G

Noah930 03-01-2016 03:08 PM

We should ask Jack O. what it's like to drive.

1990C4S 03-01-2016 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 9018867)
It is, but we have to wait 15 years.

Only if you win the lottery. Or it turns out to be the new 996...

herr_oberst 03-01-2016 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 9019344)
Sad thing is that most will never see the duty they are intended for.

In 15 years these will be collector items, nothing we will be taking to the track then either.

I will cry a little in my 6 speed 993 tonight ...

G

I'm pretty sure (okay, absolutely sure) that I'm not skilled enough as a driver to really show my '88 G50 who's boss, either. It doesn't make the experience any less fun for me, though.

SmileWavy

Noah930 03-01-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 9018706)
How much?

One website I came across guesstimated about $207K. :eek:

Holy smokes, I don't think I'll spend that much purchasing cars in my entire lifetime, combined!

Noah930 03-01-2016 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 9018867)
It is, but we have to wait 15 years.

If we wait 15 years, we probably will have missed the boat, if this car's used pricing follows that of GT3s. They seem to reach their pricing nadir at around 5-7 years after their manufacture. But yeah, with other Porsches (including turbos), 15 years seems to be where they plateau for affordability. But I still won't have $125-150K to plunk down on a used one regardless the timeframe. :(

onewhippedpuppy 03-02-2016 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 9019646)
If we wait 15 years, we probably will have missed the boat, if this car's used pricing follows that of GT3s. They seem to reach their pricing nadir at around 5-7 years after their manufacture. But yeah, with other Porsches (including turbos), 15 years seems to be where they plateau for affordability. But I still won't have $125-150K to plunk down on a used one regardless the timeframe. :(

A lot of the recent special edition 911s have really never depreciated. The 4.0L GT3 has at least doubled in value thanks to being the last manual GT3. Seeing how big of an anomaly the R is - manual gearbox, normally aspirated, lightweight, I doubt these ever drop in value.

An interesting sidebar, if everybody wants PDK, why do the special edition manual transmission models sell out nearly instantly?

wayner 03-02-2016 04:13 AM

What's wrong with a GTS?
Its got three pedals doesn't it?

https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/drives-and-rides/chris-harris-living-with-a-manual-porsche-911-gts#8OCdFMvFpxhyT3Rc.97

Shaun @ Tru6 03-02-2016 04:37 AM

I have to think there's a business in taking 997s and 991s and getting them close to something like this car, but personalized.

onewhippedpuppy 03-02-2016 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9019925)
I have to think there's a business in taking 997s and 991s and getting them close to something like this car, but personalized.

I've had the same thought, except including the 996. RPM Technik does a pretty awesome CSR build in the UK. I would go one step farther and incorporate some lightweight modifications and content removal. On a serious diet I think you could get a 996.1 C2 down to about 2700 lbs while retaining basic creature comforts. That has been a desired project of mine for several years now.

http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911/15215/rpm-technik-porsche-996-csr-review-price-and-specs

stealthn 03-02-2016 07:08 AM

Agreed this should be the base, but Porsche is all over the map with their offerings now, GT, GTrs, GT3, R all cars are turbos now, but you can get a Turbo, all cars will be PDK, but here's a manual - get it together!

Offer 1 for the masses, a mid model, then high end racer toy, and build the best of all three - done...

wayner 03-02-2016 09:38 AM

You guys would all get fired from the marketing department!
:D

don911 03-04-2016 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 9018918)
O K , I really really want ! 493 naturally aspirated HP at 8250 rpm with no sound deadening, and only 2750 pounds, and a real 6 speed manual trans ? Wow, what a brain scrambling ride that will be.

If I'm reading everything right, 2750 is dry weight. Curb weight is 3020 pounds. If the curb weight is 3020 lbs, I'm surprised it's that heavy. Curb weight on my 991 is 3042. Lose 22lbs and add 150hp and I can have an R. :)

As much as I'd love to be able to have this car, a well optioned 991 with MT is tons of fun.


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