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daepp 03-01-2016 12:08 PM

Big Engine Damage
 
For the PPOT Brain Trust:

2008 Navastar (International) DT466 - 6 cylinder in line diesel. Was running just a little bit rough... Loss of power, no lights whatsoever on the dash (and there are MANY) were lit up.

So my question is, what do you think happened? My mechanic says the bent pushrod is from #4, and the bad lobe is #2. I can't make sense of that.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456866229.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456866255.jpg

#2 Cam lobe
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456866285.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456866318.jpg

Another lobe starting to go:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456866353.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456866397.jpg

What I think is a good lobe:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456866429.jpg

sand_man 03-01-2016 12:13 PM

Whoa! Lots of "bluing" (heat) on that camshaft.

FLYGEEZER 03-01-2016 12:17 PM

It looks like your engine s*** itself.

nota 03-01-2016 01:10 PM

cam metal looks like it was full of airbubbles

when I got a core motor to rebuild for a 455ho gto
the cam had wiped out two lobes
but they were wore down WITHOUT PITS OR HOLES

i WOULD E-MAIL THOSE PIC'S TO THE CORPS REP
a bad casting with tooo much air intrained prior to machining is my guess

daepp 03-01-2016 01:13 PM

Thanks. The engine had 150K on it, and I was told the driver must have miss-shifted. After I saw the parts I started to wonder.

pcardude 03-01-2016 01:14 PM

Dang. That cam is a disaster yo. How many miles are on it?

daepp 03-01-2016 01:17 PM

150,000 miles on the odometer, but the truck was purchased used. Actual mileage may be less.

sammyg2 03-01-2016 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLYGEEZER (Post 9019191)
It looks like your engine s*** itself.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456870729.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456870741.jpg

Dan J 03-01-2016 01:24 PM

Typical Binder. Fix it sell it buy a truck with a Cummins

daepp 03-01-2016 01:39 PM

Binder?

ckelly78z 03-01-2016 01:48 PM

In the rubber industry, we call all those tiny bubbles....porosity. Never seen it in a cam lobe, but obviously, the cam maker had a heat issue while molding the cam. Possibly not a long enough cure time, or excess gassing.

aigel 03-01-2016 01:50 PM

I buy the over-rev. theory. Lobe wear is one thing, but lobe chunks and bent pushrod? Manual trans?

G

pete3799 03-01-2016 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daepp (Post 9019315)
Binder?

Corn binder some times referred to as a 13 letter s&!t spreader.
Like Dan said rebuild it and get rid of it.

wdfifteen 03-01-2016 01:59 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1456873152.jpg


This grove worn into the cam is not from over reving. I'll go with bad cam. Improperly hardened.

daepp 03-01-2016 02:02 PM

Engine has been rebuilt. I am not up on California smog rules as I should be, but a Cummins swap would strike me as not at all possible.

rfuerst911sc 03-01-2016 02:17 PM

One can of Engine Restore or Slick 50 you'll be good to go :D

pete3799 03-01-2016 02:22 PM

Don't swap motors swap trucks. We just traded a 2011 International with a Maxxforce motor(most unreliable motor I've ever seen ) for a new Kenworth with a 485hp Paccar motor.

1990C4S 03-01-2016 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daepp (Post 9019351)
Engine has been rebuilt. I am not up on California smog rules as I should be, but a Cummins swap would strike me as not at all possible.

Rebuilt with a ****ty cam I think. Was the oil pressure good?

sand_man 03-01-2016 02:48 PM

I know nothing about this engine, but I wondered the same...oil starvation?

Rusty Heap 03-01-2016 03:02 PM

Dr McCoy pointing to never seen before member of the Star Trek security landing party wearing the red uniform shirt:

"He's dead Jim"


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