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Bob Kontak 03-09-2016 05:55 PM

Dropping Adderal tomorrow
 
25 years of taking the stuff or some derivative for ADD.

It is a stimulant. I'm almost 60. I am not in the corporate world anymore.

Going to give my heart a break.

Don't see a downside except for a week or so of lethargy. Maybe a caffeine headache for a day or so.

wayner 03-09-2016 05:57 PM

...and a few lost sets of car keys ;)

Bob Kontak 03-09-2016 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner (Post 9030842)
...and a few lost sets of car keys ;)

That happens WITH the stuff. What's the difference?

Jandrews 03-09-2016 07:13 PM

What kind of dose were you taking, Bob? Any adverse effects of long term use?

JA

rusnak 03-09-2016 07:14 PM

no more Vitamin A. Where are my pants?

LEAKYSEALS951 03-09-2016 07:20 PM

My bet is that if you live up northhhh.....- it was the seasonal affective disorder all along.
Drop the adderal crap. The days are getting longer. You will feel better by the minute!

EDIT-oh lookeee here- at the bottom of this thread is an opportunistic advert for a new ADD drug advertol? (I already forgot the name of it- maybe I need it) There's a pretty 20 something pictured in it. She's cute- how bad could it be? Cheesusfreaggginrice! FU internet!

Bob Kontak 03-09-2016 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jandrews (Post 9030935)
What kind of dose were you taking, Bob? Any adverse effects of long term use?

20 MG extended release.

Nope on long term effects other than the same (I am guessing) downside of drinking four-six cups of coffee per day on top of the usual two or three.

Bob Kontak 03-09-2016 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 9030944)
My bet is that if you live up northhhh.....- it was the seasonal affective disorder all along.
Drop the adderal crap. The days are getting longer. You will feel better by the minute!

EDIT-oh lookeee here- at the bottom of this thread is an opportunistic advert for a new ADD drug advertol? (I already forgot the name of it- maybe I need it) There's a pretty 20 something pictured in it. She's cute- how bad could it be? Cheesusfreaggginrice! FU internet!

Noooo - I got it, Bro. One brother, one sister, my son, my 80 year old Dad. All from Dad's Mom. Hammann was her maiden name. Damned Germans.:D

I can't see the risk in quitting.

As to advertisement. Was reading a while back about Austin clock tower shooting in the 60's. Started getting Rhino round pop-ups and shotgun shell ads when I went to youtube.

dad911 03-09-2016 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 9030944)
......
EDIT-oh lookeee here- at the bottom of this thread is an opportunistic advert for a new ADD drug advertol? (I already forgot the name of it- maybe I need it) There's a pretty 20 something pictured in it. She's cute- how bad could it be? Cheesusfreaggginrice! FU internet!

Using Chrome with Adblock extension. No ads here.

Evans, Marv 03-09-2016 09:53 PM

Bob. Have you investigated whether it would be better to taper off rather than quit abruptly?

Arizona_928 03-09-2016 10:05 PM

You're going to have a miserable week.
Go out to the cabin.

GWN7 03-09-2016 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Evans, Marv (Post 9031077)
Bob. Have you investigated whether it would be better to taper off rather than quit abruptly?

My understanding is that is the best course to take with any drug you have been taking for any length of time.

I'd consult with your Dr. about taking a lower mg drug before quitting cold turkey.

All the best from the hospital. :)

mikester 03-09-2016 11:37 PM

20mg isn't much but you should at least talk to your Doctor before hand.

sc_rufctr 03-10-2016 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9030835)
25 years of taking the stuff or some derivative for ADD.

It is a stimulant. I'm almost 60. I am not in the corporate world anymore.

Going to give my heart a break.

Don't see a downside except for a week or so of lethargy. Maybe a caffeine headache for a day or so.

Have you talked to a doctor?

ckelly78z 03-10-2016 03:47 AM

What will your wife/sig oth, think about you quitting ? I am no advocate of medication, but you need someone unbiased to tell you if you need to go back on it if things arten't working out.

jcommin 03-10-2016 04:55 AM

I'm 65 and gave up Effexor 6 months ago. I was on the stuff for well over 15 years. I could feel the withdrawal effects for a couple of months but I'm ok now.

It was a big step for me.


Good Luck.

berettafan 03-10-2016 05:34 AM

so it IS rough on the heart?

I've been fighting add my whole life without drugs and seem to be losing the war. at 43 though i'm not down with any meds that would put any stress on my heart.

Joe Bob 03-10-2016 07:43 AM

What's the street price on the stuff? Could be a nice side line....%^)

Not that "I" would do something like that....

wayner 03-10-2016 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 9031249)
so it IS rough on the heart?

I've been fighting add my whole life without drugs and seem to be losing the war. at 43 though i'm not down with any meds that would put any stress on my heart.

If you really need it, stress from not taking it s probably equal if not more harmful...??

Bob Kontak 03-10-2016 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 9031249)
so it IS rough on the heart?

It is a stimulant. Stimulants are additive in your system

10 cups of coffee vs two. Which is harder on the heart?

That's all I am saying.

notfarnow 03-10-2016 09:12 AM

My ADD regimen:

- Exercise and a high protein breakfast every morning

- Start my day with lists and priorities, which I revisit through the day

- Nicorettes here and there to "stabilize" if I start to get too scattered

Tervuren 03-10-2016 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 9030944)
My bet is that if you live up northhhh.....- it was the seasonal affective disorder all along.
Drop the adderal crap. The days are getting longer. You will feel better by the minute!

EDIT-oh lookeee here- at the bottom of this thread is an opportunistic advert for a new ADD drug advertol? (I already forgot the name of it- maybe I need it) There's a pretty 20 something pictured in it. She's cute- how bad could it be? Cheesusfreaggginrice! FU internet!

Back before I gave up facebook, I used to type in keywords and post them privately just to change my adds around.

I did find it interesting that after moving from the random pics thread where Iron maiden's new tour was posted, that lo-and behold there they are on my "watch next" of you tube.

Bob Kontak 03-10-2016 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcommin (Post 9031225)
I'm 65 and gave up Effexor 6 months ago. I was on the stuff for well over 15 years. I could feel the withdrawal effects for a couple of months but I'm ok now.

It was a big step for me.

That is admirable. I take a wimpy dose of Citalopram. My daughter brings it to me and watches me take it. There is a big difference with and without taking from her perspective.

Adderal, Dexadrine and Ritilan are central nervous system stimulants. Pull the stimulant out of the loop and the result is little gets done and you want to sleep. I will be sleeping by 5 or 6 tonight. In about five days, I will start to have the first sensation of a genuine kick from coffee and alertness will be appearing.

I will say though, those $15, four pound frozen Lasagnas look real attractive as a snack. The $12 bags of MM's as well.

ckelly78z 03-10-2016 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9031633)
I will say though, those $15, four pound frozen Lasagnas look real attractive as a snack. The $12 bags of MM's as well.

Don't get rid of one issue to make another. Sleeping/eating excessively is worse on your body than the effects of the adderal.

trader220 03-10-2016 11:00 AM

DO NOT GO COLD TURKEY.... I tried doing the same thing via the cold turkey method... its not pretty and I have only been on the addy's for 8 years. The drug was a life changer for me. Once I left the exchange floor and was trading "up stairs" the ADD really kicked in since there was no constant action. The adderal changed my life for the better.

Not sure I totally need it anymore but I am sure you need to walk your self down over time.

M.D. Holloway 03-10-2016 12:35 PM

keep the script and mail them to me!

wdfifteen 03-10-2016 12:36 PM

I may have ADD.
I think my doctor said something about it but I wasn't really paying attention. ;)

Not good to drop psychoactive drugs cold turkey or without the advice of a physician.

wayner 03-10-2016 01:07 PM

Is dropping adderal anything like dropping acid? :confused:

Bob Kontak 03-10-2016 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 9031686)
Don't get rid of one issue to make another. Sleeping/eating excessively is worse on your body than the effects of the adderal.

It reduces appetite. I eat little through the day and at 10:00 PM effects taper off and I turn into a hungry T-Rex. Then sleep.

There is something to what notfarnow says about managing ADD. If you do have a task list, and I have done this, even without the stimulant a challenge is created and that generates focus.

I am not managing ADD just by taking the stimulant. I simply feel like a junkie. Time to hit the reset button.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 9031845)

Not good to drop psychoactive drugs cold turkey or without the advice of a physician.

Fair enough - placed a call to him.

No downside except sluggishness for a few days.

Day one - yep - real sluggish, but I seem to be getting a little bit of a second wind. Sluggish but the need to lie down RIGHT NOW is fading.

wayner 03-10-2016 01:18 PM

We joke a lot but in all sincerity, best of luck
Wayne

Nostril Cheese 03-10-2016 01:20 PM

Start playing guitar. All you need.

Bob Kontak 03-10-2016 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner (Post 9031887)
Is dropping adderal anything like dropping acid? :confused:

+1 Bad choice of words.

I dropped acid at 15 and then saw the Exorcist. That was the last of acid/mescaline for me. Perhaps that stupid choice was a blessing.

Bob Kontak 03-10-2016 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 9031909)
Start playing guitar. All you need.

FWIW - I did pick up a set of Series I Bose 901's. I am afraid to ask JR if they are any good. I am also afraid to look at the foam on the half a squillion speakers.

Reiver 03-10-2016 02:02 PM

Good luck with your chosen route....and, keep your Doc informed

berettafan 03-10-2016 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 9031556)
My ADD regimen:

- Exercise and a high protein breakfast every morning

- Start my day with lists and priorities, which I revisit through the day

- Nicorettes here and there to "stabilize" if I start to get too scattered

sans the nicorettes this is what I found in searching for natural remedies.

I will be biking to work on weekends (have to take kids to school weekdays so bike won't work) as a start.

would really like to hear more from those taking adderal or similar as to how they relate to stressing the heart. spent a few days in the hospital a few years ago with afib and have completely lost my taste for hospitals.

notfarnow 03-10-2016 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 9031909)
Start playing guitar. All you need.

A lot of truth to this. Many people will roll their eyes if someone says "music therapy", but learning an instrument is supposed to be an EXCELLENT way to calm and manage an overstimulated brain.

I don't know about you guys, but hearing how many other people grapple with ADD really makes me feel better about it. When I was diagnosed and started talking openly about it, I got a lot of scoffs and dismissive comments... people hear it and think it's a crutch or an excuse. In fact, my life has improved dramatically since I was diagnosed... it was like someone lifted a curtain. I had always been baffled and felt insecure about the fact that I struggled with some things that seemed so easy to others. No that I understand it, I can manage it.

I've also come to learn how to harness the ADD and put it to work. Everyone is different, but for me it is like a superpower. There are things that I can take on and do that my friends and peers simply can't power through. Provided I stay organized, that is.

john70t 03-10-2016 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trader220 (Post 9031703)
DO NOT GO COLD TURKEY....

Yes.
This applies to any psychotropic regiment with physical detriments.
Plateau at a lower level, adjust and suffer a while, adjust, and then go from there.

ADD is the natural ability to multitask. Sometimes things break.

jcommin 03-10-2016 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9031633)
That is admirable. I take a wimpy dose of Citalopram. My daughter brings it to me and watches me take it. There is a big difference with and without taking from her perspective.

Adderal, Dexadrine and Ritilan are central nervous system stimulants. Pull the stimulant out of the loop and the result is little gets done and you want to sleep. I will be sleeping by 5 or 6 tonight. In about five days, I will start to have the first sensation of a genuine kick from coffee and alertness will be appearing.

I will say though, those $15, four pound frozen Lasagnas look real attractive as a snack. The $12 bags of MM's as well.

I didn't do this cold turkey - i slowly reduced the dosage. And yes, I had guidance from my doctor.

cmccuist 03-10-2016 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9031926)
FWIW - I did pick up a set of Series I Bose 901's. I am afraid to ask JR if they are any good. I am also afraid to look at the foam on the half a squillion speakers.

THREAD HIJACK!

I bought some old 901's. The first time I cranked it, all the foam ended up in the bottom of the speakers. I re-foamed them myself in an afternoon. Worth it I thought.

RacerX1166 03-11-2016 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9031633)

Adderal, Dexadrine and Ritilan are central nervous system stimulants. Pull the stimulant out of the loop and the result is little gets done and you want to sleep. I will be sleeping by 5 or 6 tonight. In about five days, I will start to have the first sensation of a genuine kick from coffee and alertness will be appearing.

.

If you're ready to sleep without the stimulants, then you may not have ADHD. ADHD is a physical condition having to do with blood flow to certain portions of the brain. Without the stimulants, the blood flow is decreased and that's what causes the hyperactivity and inability to focus. Someone without the condition takes the meds and they're wired for sound whereas those with it mellow out. As an example, some kids with ADHD are given a dose of Ritalin at night so they can fall asleep. Hell, I'm on the max dose of Adderall and have no issue taking a nap. If I don't have the drug in my system, I may want to sleep but the motivation comes from inability to get anything accomplished. Go to bed and try again tomorrow.


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