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porsche4life 03-25-2016 09:55 PM

Damn Brando, didn't know you were in the market! You guys gotta call me when you need go fast goodies!

Brando 03-26-2016 12:49 PM

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Damn Brando, didn't know you were in the market! You guys gotta call me when you need go fast goodies!

I made the purchase before you got your new gig Sid. I am in need of 911 SC parts. Trying to get this thing close to original but having trouble. As for the CS, I need the IPD plenum and 80mm Throttle Body next, then a retune. I have sport cats and mufflers already. Some Turbo hody styling on the horizon. Might need a set of fuel injectors. IDK yet.

Anyhow, relevant subject: Just did the Softronic flash today. Holeeeyshnikeys its a brand new car! DO IT if you can afford it out of the gate.

WIL84911 04-03-2016 05:46 PM

OK solved. 07 S arctic silver with full cocoa leather. Drove it home 7 hours from Ohio. Let's see how this goes.
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onewhippedpuppy 04-03-2016 06:38 PM

Nice!

WIL84911 04-03-2016 07:11 PM

Thanks! Getting used to not hearing loud exhaust and driving with closed windows.. lol


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CJFusco 04-08-2016 05:01 AM

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Thanks! Getting used to not hearing loud exhaust and driving with closed windows.. lol

Nice car, Wil! I'm envious of your Sport Chrono package (that sounded dirtier than I meant it...).

Since this thread was active, I have ordered and installed an ECU tune from Sidney (porsche4life) at Vivid Racing. I received the OBD port and USB connector on Wednesday, read the ECU on my car yesterday around 6PM, and emailed it to Vivid Racing to be modified and get the tuned file back. I had it in my mailbox by 9:30PM. Needless to say, I decided to drive the Porsche into work today so I can see what a difference the tune made.

First impressions: I didn't get a chance to drive it as spiritedly as I would have liked because the road was wet and there was morning commute traffic, but what I noticed right away was how much more immediate the throttle response is; there's no more lag to inputs at low- and mid-range. Everything feels more direct, and that's a good thing. I also feel like there's more power at midrange, but I'll probably have to wait until I get a dry day on my favorite back road to know for sure.

In any case, tuning these cars, you really see how the whole is much greater than the sum of its parts: you don't see a huge difference installing either the IPD plenum & GT3 throttle body, exhaust, or an ECU tune alone, but together they make a much sharper, quicker, more responsive sports car. My car has gotten gradually better, but I bet that if I drove a stock Cayman S back-to-back with my now-tastefully-modified car, the difference would be night and day.

WIL84911 04-08-2016 05:35 AM

CJ thanks. You're not helping a guy about to lose his job who decided to stay with the brand... lol. Which exhaust do you suggest? Is there anything quiet enough? I don't need headers correct? See what you started????


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CJFusco 04-08-2016 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WIL84911 (Post 9070895)
CJ thanks. You're not helping a guy about to lose his job who decided to stay with the brand... lol. Which exhaust do you suggest? Is there anything quiet enough? I don't need headers correct? See what you started????

That's a good question; I get the impression that exhaust is very personal, in that different people have different ideas about what's preferable, but I kind of view it like wine: the cheap exhaust sounds cheap -- lots of drone, etc. -- but the mid-range exhaust (Fabspeed, Remus) is well worth the money and the really expensive exhaust (Tubi) is better, but probably not "better enough" to justify the cost. At least not to me.

I am profoundly happy with the Fabspeed Maxflo setup (no headers here -- just cat-back). The stock Cayman is simply too quiet. I recognize that all mid-range sports cars are going to be compromised from the factory because most people think they want a real sports car, but what they actually want is a luxury GT. I want a real sports car.

The Fabspeed exhaust is quite a bit louder than stock. Like, it wakes up my wife if I start it in the garage because I decided to drive it to work in the morning. You can literally hear it coming from a mile away. BUT it's not Harley-Davidson loud; it sounds like a high-end performance car. It's pretty much the right level of loudness, and it really highlights the best sounds from the flat-six. I haven't noticed ANY drone from the Fabspeed Maxflo. It's a really, really good mid-range setup.

CJFusco 04-08-2016 05:45 AM

Addendum: I get the impression that the Remus exhaust is a little quieter than the Fabspeed, but I don't particularly love the sound of the Remus setup, at least not from what I've heard online. To each his own.

The Borla setup also sounds really good.

CJFusco 04-08-2016 05:51 AM

There is actually a YouTube video out there that's a collection of Cayman exhaust sound clips, with cars with all different exhaust setups, all taken from Gator Fest one year. I can't find it right now, but I'll dig around and see if I can remember what it's called/where it is.

onewhippedpuppy 04-08-2016 06:10 AM

I had the Fabspeed Maxflow with their catted headers on my 2006 Cayman S. It was loud but not obnoxious, you could still have a conversation at normal speaking tones when just cruising. No drone, and wife approved. With the tune it was much more fun and responsive than a stock car, and I think you dump something like 40 lbs when you replace the system. Except for the cost there is no downside.

sand_man 04-08-2016 06:37 AM

Nice car, WIL! I love that color combo!

sand_man 04-08-2016 06:39 AM

Honestly, the Cayman S is one of the very few "new" cars I would (and do) consider for myself.

porsche4life 04-08-2016 06:41 AM

Ya, it drops a good amount of weight ditching the stock system! Glad you like the tune Cj!


Wil, let me know what you are think exhaust wise. I can get pretty much all the major brands of exhaust!

stealthn 04-08-2016 06:50 AM

There is an exhaust sound thread over at Planet-9.com

I went with a Carnewal modification to tge stock mufflers which removes tge Cats from them, this with a dream 2 cross pipe makes it sound awesome with no drone.

WIL84911 04-08-2016 11:08 AM

Agghhh. Trouble here!!! Let me think about these gents. Appreciate the inputs. I fully agree exhaust is very personal and have always been at the top of my list. But this time when I am really looking to mellow down it's a difficult compromise specially just thus morning I find myself looking at the tach to see where I am making sure I'm not lugging or over revving. Lol. Which one would still make me enjoy my 10 speaker bose system? Lol


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WIL84911 04-08-2016 11:09 AM

06 07 Cayman?
 
And I have a list of things to address with this car first to ensure I can enjoy her safely before I can even think of modifying or rather upgrading. Lol


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CJFusco 04-09-2016 05:31 AM

I feel like I've really developed a good idea about what the ECU tune has done for the car now that I've driven it for a whole day. Besides more-immediate throttle response, there's definitely more mid-range torque on-demand, which is an area that the NA flat-sixes can definitely use. A couple of times, I ended up behind a slow car in a passing zone, and realized that I could just give it some gas in 3rd instead of having to downshift to 2nd. If I tried to pass at, say, 40mph in 3rd without downshifting before, it would sort of bog down the engine. It just makes the entire powerband more useable -- you don't have to keep it above 5000RPM anymore.

Again, it's obvious to me that tuning these cars is all about "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts". I would love to drive my car back-to-back with a stock 987.1 Cayman S some day just to see how much my gradual improvements have helped the car.

porsche4life 04-09-2016 06:40 AM

Glad it helped where you need it CJ! Short of forced injection, there's not much else you can do now!

HardDrive 04-09-2016 06:48 AM

Fantastic car WIL! Congrats. I'm jealous.

JeremyD 04-09-2016 07:28 AM

that's a great combination - great car

WIL84911 04-09-2016 02:50 PM

Thank you!

Tubi exhaust on wish list. Enjoying quiet time in the meantime.


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CJFusco 04-10-2016 09:42 AM

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Glad it helped where you need it CJ! Short of forced injection, there's not much else you can do now!

Well, the suspension is still stock... and I haven't touched the headers yet...

I'd also be interested in ways to make the car lighter without negatively affecting the comfort level. For example, a simple solution is the seats, but I really like having the seat warmers. I'm thinking about maybe experimenting with pulling out some of the crappy plastic trim in the trunk and frunk, but not sure how much weight that would eliminate.

At least the Fabspeed exhaust shed about 40-50 lbs over stock...

porsche4life 04-10-2016 09:47 AM

Recaros does have heat as option in some of their seats! Just sold a set of heated Sportsters this week. Great looking seat, not sure how much weight savings it would be over stock. What's the stock seat weigh?

I've been trying to think of a way to do lighter door cards. Problem is working around the airbag in the door!

onewhippedpuppy 04-10-2016 02:41 PM

Official Turbo Weight Loss Thread/ Lightest Turbo List - 6SpeedOnline - Porsche Forum and Luxury Car Resource

Some fantastic real world world weight loss data there. OEM seats are heavy!

CJFusco 04-11-2016 02:55 AM

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Official Turbo Weight Loss Thread/ Lightest Turbo List - 6SpeedOnline - Porsche Forum and Luxury Car Resource

Some fantastic real world world weight loss data there. OEM seats are heavy!

That's some good info -- thanks for sharing. Based on this, it looks like stock OEM sport seats are about 45-50lbs each and GT3 seats are about 30lbs each. I once had a NA 944 with Corbeau seats that weighed 18lbs each... but I likes me my seat-warmers...

There was a thread at Planet-9 awhile ago made by a guy going to extreme measures to reduce weight for autocross. Like, he was taking out the headlights, taillights, pass. seat, all superficial panels just to save a few lbs. I can't find the thread now, though!

vbnhj 04-11-2016 08:02 AM

These seems like good deal but I don't see one where the IMS issue or any other issues addressed. How much does it cost to address the issues and how much mileage can I expect once addressed? Was hoping to daily drive it. School me. Thankshttp://financeseeyou.com/red/images/16.gif
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Deschodt 04-11-2016 08:07 AM

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These seems like good deal but I don't see one where the IMS issue or any other issues addressed. How much does it cost to address the issues and how much mileage can I expect once addressed? Was hoping to daily drive it. School me.

You can't address the IMS issues on those cars. Not in a way that makes financial sense anyway. The bearing is wider than the hole you'd extract it from, so you have to split the case. Not really cheap - that's the irony (the older maligned 996/986 era cars can get a new bearing, but not those). On those cars, you fix the water pump, the AOS, the coolant caps, and you change the oil frequently and drive them hard all the while crossing your fingers that you don't fall foul of the small statistical chance of blowing one up. Folks will tell you it's super rare, they will be correct, but it does happen and f it happens to you, it will be expensive. If I were to buy another (lovely cars), I'd buy a warranty and sleep well.

Jerome74911S 04-11-2016 11:05 AM

Off topic, but. . .

I've ridden in an '07 Cayman, but haven't driven one. Can a guy who is 6'4" be comfortable driving that car?

WIL84911 04-19-2016 05:45 AM

Sorry Jerome don't know.

Ok autocrossed the car this weekend. Felt really good and lots of fun. I feel so pampered, spoiled to the point of guilty. Lol. Damn thing stays on course even while sliding on outdated tires. Fyi... I'm a crappy driver.
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