Do you wait at your mechanics ? Small shops, do you take waiters ?

[ckelly78z]

No, never wait, always drop off and wait for a call.

I can't stand people sitting there waiting on me to get done. I don't have a shop, but if I did, I wouldn't have a waiting room.....just saying !

[fastfredracing]

Originally Posted by ckelly78z

No, never wait, always drop off and wait for a call.

I can't stand people sitting there waiting on me to get done. I don't have a shop, but if I did, I wouldn't have a waiting room.....just saying !

i don't have a waiting room. Great minds ......
And sorry, WD, did not mean to come off like a smart arse to you, your post made me chuckle a bit

[greglepore]

Nothing worse than when I wrench in the bike shop having a customer stand over me and tell me how to do it or ask a nonstop stream of questions. If they want to watch and learn, quietly ok, or if they want to talk music, fine, but otherwise get outta my way.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by fastfredracing

Trust me , that kid was not pounding the hell out of your drum because he wanted to piss you off.
I would have told you," here , have a go at it"!

I offered. They wouldn't let me under the truck. The kid wasn't pounding the hell out of the drums to piss me off, he just went to the last resort first and figured, "What the hell, if I eff it up he'll just have to buy himself a new brake drum." I didn't want to buy a new brake drum, would you?

[syncroid]

We call the waiter jobs "Burn the mechanic while ya wait" jobs. I have gotten used to it over the years and don't let it bother me too much. Although, there are some jobs I really would not want someone standing over me while I work on their car.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by greglepore

Nothing worse than when I wrench in the bike shop having a customer stand over me and tell me how to do it or ask a nonstop stream of questions. If they want to watch and learn, quietly ok, or if they want to talk music, fine, but otherwise get outta my way.

I grew up in my dad's jewelry shop. When i was old enough to pick up a file, I worked for him after school doing all the simple stuff like setting stones and learn the art of making jewelry, by hand (PITA as a kid). We didn't to deal with the public, only trades or retailers. At times, there are customers who ask/demans to see how their stone is set. These are the retailer's clients, so we were obligated to allow them in the shop. Some are a royal pain. They watch like a hawk, standing right behind us (they cant see the damn thing because the items we are working on is just too small to see from three feet away) as we set their $1200 stone. Some would scream when they see us light the torch, or pick up a file to smooth the prongs out after the stone is set. My father decided no more. They ask a million questions and take up 1/2 hour yapping about their POS.

Now, I tell my clients, watching and helping will be a 30% education fee tacked on to the final bill and many laugh about it. I walk them through the job every few days just to show them what's going on and that eliminates them asking my workmen about their job right in the middle of doing something dangerous or break their required intense focus. It never fails, when you are about make a complex and dangerous cut on the table saw, here comes someone, what are doing? That's interesting, where does it go? They stop, shut off the saw, and yap. Turn saw back on and cut the piece too short or the wrong side. Never fails. Oh fook! Sorry man, just cut a $50 dollar piece of lumber short.

[oldE]

I have two places who work on my vehicles, if I'm not doing it myself.
One is a one man place. I've known him since he was a kid. He used to work for a dealership, then went out on his own maybe 15 years ago. When he's working on the truck, I'm usually helping out.
For the VW, I take it to the place which has been working on my VWs for thirty years. They used to be a little dealership but went indy close to 15 years ago. Again, I know the principle and remember when he was a kid washing the cars on his dad's lot. His dad is still around from time to time and still goes to the auctions to pick up a few cars. Ed is the main sales guy now and I know if I mention a particular car on the lot the offer of keys and a dealer plate will be made. I also know he may ask a few questions about my impressions of the vehicle but will not ask if I'm looking to buy it.
If I can't wait for my vehicle to be worked on, there will be a loaner for whatever time I need it.
I have had only two complaints about their service in all that time.
Both issues were resolved immediately. I don't need to watch.

Best
Les

[Tobra]

Depends

Mostly drop off and come back later. Actually, mostly I do stuff myself, so if someone else is doing something, it is going to take a couple hours. Going for an alignment on Saturday morning, will just hang out and read car magazines for that one.

[herr_oberst]

Tires, sure. I'll wait.
Mechanical, nah. Drop and go. Wait for the call.

[Bob Kontak]

If a hole in the wall semi-retirement/hobby shop counts as a small indy, then I am talking.

I have a couple of lady customers with limited means. They have waited for several hours. I don't care for it. However, they are troopers. One gal rolled up $30 worth of change in my junk drawer while waiting.

What chapped my butt is when I used to get sucked into an "I'll help you" scenario. I don't mind the them helping part, some dudes are seriously good (and younger/stronger). It's when their spouses blow up their cell phones asking when they will be finished that frosts me. I am cutting the guy a break and he is still getting harassed.

Given my personality, I feel guilty that his frammitz valve or kermit palzer is so far gone it can't be repaired. Therefore, in my mind, I am keeping him from his wife and kids. I internalize these annoying phone calls and finally scream, "Tell that farking batch to get of your back" while he is on the phone.

Kind of thins them out.

[Bill Douglas]

I do 90% of everything myself. But I don't do my state authorized safety inspections (yet ) so I go to the same place as I've been going to for 20 years. The main mechanic and I have got to be good friends and I guess I'm one of the few customers allowed in the workshop area. We stand around talking about what we've been up to since the last meeting, and he's pointing out things I need to fix before the next inspection, gets me to pump the brake pedal etc. Really good.

[Cajundaddy]

Yep most of my waiting is for tires or smog inspections which go pretty quickly. If a repair can be done in an hour I will do it myself. If it takes longer, I'm out!

[Brian 162]

Timely topic. I was at my indie mechanic today for an oil change and a battery. I booked the appt. a week ago. He doesn't mind that I hang out. He even suggested I wait. I buy the shop coffee and play with the dogs.
I live 2 bus and 2 trains away from these guys. If anything more than an oil change I'll leave it for a few days.

[rattlsnak]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

I offered. They wouldn't let me under the truck. The kid wasn't pounding the hell out of the drums to piss me off, he just went to the last resort first and figured, "What the hell, if I eff it up he'll just have to buy himself a new brake drum." I didn't want to buy a new brake drum, would you?

We were taught/trained in automotive school to hit the drums on the flat side with the biggest hammer you could find if they didnt slide right off. Been doing it that way for many years as does everyone else in the industry.

[Scott R]

Never, ever, ever. Because when I was a wrench I wanted to punch the dispatcher when the shag put a car in my stall and yelled "WAITER!" at 6:30 in the morning.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by rattlsnak

We were taught/trained in automotive school to hit the drums on the flat side with the biggest hammer you could find if they didnt slide right off. Been doing it that way for many years as does everyone else in the industry.

This is the w ay I was taught by my Autoshop teacher.

[faapgar]

Hi,great topic.I had a shop for 35 years.I always encouraged people to wait and watch.It is a lot of fun to do something technical and make it look easy.I never had a place for the customer to sit other than over my shoulder.Nothing better than the truth.Fred Apgar Apcar Inc.Pa.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by rattlsnak

We were taught/trained in automotive school to hit the drums on the flat side with the biggest hammer you could find if they didnt slide right off. Been doing it that way for many years as does everyone else in the industry.

I hope everyone else in the industry doesn't, but I may be wrong. I was very happy to discover Toyota provided an alternative to the "beat the hell out of it until it falls off" method. I would hope a mechanic working on one would use it. I had to take the drums off my Tundra annually to free up the notorious e-brake pivot . I never had to take a hammer to them.

[kennethg]

Outside of 1 or 2 oil changes first thing and tires mounted on rims for a swap I prefer them to leave the car. Shop flow/hoist requirements and part delivery times really start to affect things after that.

Regarding the brake drums and hammering, thats what I do. Having to fix threads makes you a bit more careful. Apperentices, I make them use the air hammer with a flat rivet bit around the flange. They pop everytime and I never have to fix threads or replace studs. Lots now have 2 threaded holes and you use use a couple bolts. Piece of cake.

[wildthing]

My indie shop I go to doesn't have chairs. I have to hang out at a Starbucks 2 blocks away or just leave.

I think that's better for them. Let them concentrate on the work rather than chit chat.