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vbaron 04-12-2016 07:19 AM

'76 930 with 19k miles - this for real?
 
Someone sent me this link for a 1976 930 with 19k for Government Liquidation Auction:

1976 Porsche 930 Turbo Carrera Vin # 9306800076. Actual Documented Mileage 19,504 - Government Liquidation

I'm somewhat skeptical...

Vin

faapgar 04-12-2016 07:26 AM

Hi,kind of hard to be a 76 with a 77 dash with vent.Maybe it is a one off prototype.

stomachmonkey 04-12-2016 07:57 AM

Records back to 87' but they don't know who painted it the current color.

So we had a 10ish year old car with under 20k that had been repainted?

Not unheard of but odd.

Tidybuoy 04-12-2016 09:10 AM

Certificate states Copper Brown with Black interior. I doubt this has 19k miles. Looks good though.

fastfredracing 04-12-2016 09:12 AM

Anxious to see what that brings. I think I am going to take mine out for a good run this weekend ....

speeder 04-12-2016 09:19 AM

That interior is gorgeous. If that car is supposed to be copper brown, I hope someone puts it back.

vbaron 04-12-2016 12:07 PM

Talked to my friend about the site. The vast majority of the auction goods are government surplus and my friend states that it's legit. The autos for sale are all older vehicles, must be from a different source.

These Willys Cab Forwards are a favorite of mine:

1958 Willys FC170 4 X 4. Vin # 6156812872. Mileage reads 312 - Government Liquidation

Vin

Arizona_928 04-12-2016 12:18 PM

That's pretty rare for gov liquadations. Just to warn you guys from past experience. Inspections are very very basic.
When they had the DRMO rolling stock contract, if the trucks did not start with the key turned, or switch. That was it. Sold as is. Could be batteries, could be a connecting rod sticking out the side of the block....

I liked them more then govplanet, but that's a whole different thread.

widebody911 04-12-2016 01:16 PM

. Since cars built in 1976 have to SMOG in California the mileage is recorded every 2 years at the SMOG station giving us a solid record of mileage.

I tried to look it up but got "No tests were found for this vehicle!"

look 171 04-12-2016 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbaron (Post 9076616)
Talked to my friend about the site. The vast majority of the auction goods are government surplus and my friend states that it's legit. The autos for sale are all older vehicles, must be from a different source.

These Willys Cab Forwards are a favorite of mine:

1958 Willys FC170 4 X 4. Vin # 6156812872. Mileage reads 312 - Government Liquidation

Vin

I looked at that too. That's a sweet looking Jeep and looks like it hasn't been abused, yet?

vbaron 04-12-2016 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9076787)
I looked at that too. That's a sweet looking Jeep and looks like it hasn't been abused, yet?

Not much, it does mention that the engine was rebuilt and that the door windows have cracks. Otherwise, it does look in good shape.


The 930 is up to $90k...

Vin

Eric Coffey 04-12-2016 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9076368)
That interior is gorgeous. If that car is supposed to be copper brown, I hope someone puts it back.

Yeah, I am digging that interior color.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a stolen re-VIN job. For that VIN, the interior was originally black, and the exterior copper brown. A full interior swap and complete re-spray would be a lot of work. Possible I suppose, but it just seems odd/uncommon for such a low-mileage car. Also, the exterior decal package looks stock, and would be an unlikely addition on a fresh re-spray. Speaking of miles, I have serious doubts that car has 19k original miles. Another sign that it may be a re-VIN. It would be interesting to cross-check the engine and gearbox serial numbers to see if they match the COA as well.

I hope the winning bidder does their due-diligence, and also reads the fine print. That 12.5% buyer's premium might sting a bit (it's already @ $90k).

vbaron 04-14-2016 03:57 PM

Auction closed at $100k with Reserve Not Met...

garrege 07-15-2020 04:37 PM

re-stamped VIN most likely
 
Obviously the ext and int colors are incorrect but were they changed or was the VIN plate changed?

1. VIN says 1976 but interior is from a 1977 and appears quite complete.
2. brake booster in front trunk was offered in 1977, not 1976.
3. I've seen the car; the Ivory paint is not original because it's lifted in many spots, but there's no indication of a Copper color underneath.

What makes the interior 1977?
1. AC vents should be below the dash, not in the middle.
2. speedo should be 150mph, not 180mph.
3. door lock knob on door panel shouldn't be a twist knob in 1976.
4. rear seat stitch pattern should be horizontal in 1976 and vertical in 1977.

The car is missing its A-pillar VIN tag. I think the front trunk VIN tag was spliced into this car from a donor 1977 Ivory/Brown car.

Embraer 07-15-2020 05:21 PM

How are you seeing an auction from 4 years ago?


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