Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 9080259)

I don't remember so many Russian planes buzzing American Navy ships like this.

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 9080432)

Blame Canada

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9079824)

I was there through the start of Ernest Will to Operation Preying Mantis. It was an interesting time.



All true.

The ship being buzzed is an Aegis equipped destroyer with SPY-1 radar - or a newer variant. These are extremely capable ships and I would imagine had everything ready to go should the SU-24 have painted the USS Cook in a particular manner.

The SU-24 is about as stealthy as the Queen Mary and about as much of a threat. The Cook wasn't unaware.

Quick sea story.

I was the Air Boss on the USS La Salle (and the COMIDEASTFOR Air Officer) during the first Persian Gulf War.

During the run up to the ground was we spent a lot of time at sea in the Gulf. The CO of the La Salle was an F-14 pilot who was doing his deep draft ship tour prior to getting his carrier. He would go on to command a carrier, carrier strike group and eventually rise to become the Vice Commander of Naval Operations, a four star billet, second dude in charge.

We became good friends and he was very helpful in my career.

While underway after an import period in Dubai, the CO and I were chatting on the flight deck. It was a fairly nice day for the Gulf and we were yapping.

He is facing aft and I am facing forward in relation to the ship. I spot an air contact about 3/4 miles in front of the ship - it looks like a P-3.

He turns with me as the P-3 does a port pass on the ship at about a 100 ft in both altitude and separation from the ship. I can see the pilot in the left seat, Ray-bans.

We can also see the roundel on the tail of the P-3: Iranian Air force.

The CO looks at me, I look at him, we do a little Bluto dance on the flight deck and he starts running for CIC.

What a goat rope: The La Salle was an ancient ship with a lot of upgrades but had Helen Keller air search radar. The Iranian P-3 was an F-117 to us, which made it clear that I was on a ship bringing a paint ball gun to a missile fight.

Eek.

Edit: BTW, the amount of Nautical Grab A%% that goes on in international waters would surprise most.

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 9080578)

Probably an Alberta pilot too :D

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 9080539)

Oh, well clearly, if you don't remember, then it must not have happened. Clearly, in the last 100 years, every instance of this sort of thing has been heavily chronicled in the news papers and on the Internet (Yes, this is exactly the thing the Internet was invented for back in WWI :rolleyes:)

Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 9080672)

Russian flyby happened last in 2004 - you know, the beginning of the Obama administration. LOL.

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9079824)

I was there through the start of Ernest Will to Operation Preying Mantis. It was an interesting time.



All true.

The ship being buzzed is an Aegis equipped destroyer with SPY-1 radar - or a newer variant. These are extremely capable ships and I would imagine had everything ready to go should the SU-24 have painted the USS Cook in a particular manner.

The SU-24 is about as stealthy as the Queen Mary and about as much of a threat. The Cook wasn't unaware.

Quick sea story.

I was the Air Boss on the USS La Salle (and the COMIDEASTFOR Air Officer) during the first Persian Gulf War.

During the run up to the ground was we spent a lot of time at sea in the Gulf. The CO of the La Salle was an F-14 pilot who was doing his deep draft ship tour prior to getting his carrier. He would go on to command a carrier, carrier strike group and eventually rise to become the Vice Commander of Naval Operations, a four star billet, second dude in charge.

We became good friends and he was very helpful in my career.

While underway after an import period in Dubai, the CO and I were chatting on the flight deck. It was a fairly nice day for the Gulf and we were yapping.

He is facing aft and I am facing forward in relation to the ship. I spot an air contact about 3/4 miles in front of the ship - it looks like a P-3.

He turns with me as the P-3 does a port pass on the ship at about a 100 ft in both altitude and separation from the ship. I can see the pilot in the left seat, Ray-bans.

We can also see the roundel on the tail of the P-3: Iranian Air force.

The CO looks at me, I look at him, we do a little Bluto dance on the flight deck and he starts running for CIC.

What a goat rope: The La Salle was an ancient ship with a lot of upgrades but had Helen Keller air search radar. The Iranian P-3 was an F-117 to us, which made it clear that I was on a ship bringing a paint ball gun to a missile fight.

Eek.

Edit: BTW, the amount of Nautical Grab A%% that goes on in international waters would surprise most.

Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 9080724)

Cool story.
I was on the Kidd.
"Monkey monkey monkey!!!"

Originally Posted by cvjcguk (Post 9080764)

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Originally Posted by shaun @ tru6 (Post 9080785)

oh, the irony, this spammer is probably a rooskie. Only work available in russia is being a spambot on u.s. Forums.

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 9080586)

Thanks for the great story Paul/Seahawk. I remember the documentary showing Castro in a missile placement back in the '60's. A US aircraft flies over Cuba and Castro says shoot it down. I don't think this world needs this kind of action again.

How far was this ship from the Baltic Coast? I am sure if there was a Russian ship anywhere close to North America they would get the same buzz job treatment.
Cooler heads prevail....

Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 9081159)

Sometimes they aren't so good at flying close.

http://theaviationist.com/2016/04/14/that-time-a-soviet-bomber-crashed-into-the-sea-after-buzzing-a-u-s-aircraft-carrier/

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 9081379)

You ever run over an aluminum can with a lawnmower?

That is how I imagine a jet would look if it tangled with a Phalanx system.

Originally Posted by gary1101 (Post 9081291)

At close range the Phalanx would shred the jets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L0ZAGOuaqg

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9081395)

I hope Sandy chimes in...but the affectionate name I knew CIWS by was "R2D2 With a Hard-On"

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1460757657.jpg

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9081385)

Its a shame Obama has issued an executive order to have Phalanx systems removed from all Navy ships.

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 9081413)

I remember seeing film of the mini guns on Goony Birds? or maybe Puff the Magic Dragon? back in the70's. The tracers were coming out so fast that the bullet stream looked like a laser. That CIWS looks waaay bigger and badder than the minis.

Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 9081609)

I remember seeing them in person and thinking how great they were. I don't remember the percentage but they aren't all tracers, like you said, they fired so fast they looked like a solid line snaking toward the earth.

Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 9081744)

They don't need tracers.
One radar tracks the target.
Another tracks the rounds and adjusts until the difference is zero.
Fully automatic with no issues from incompetent equal opportunity fire control officers.

Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 9080724)

Cool story.
I was on the Kidd.
"Monkey monkey monkey!!!"

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 9081413)

I remember seeing film of the mini guns on Goony Birds? or maybe Puff the Magic Dragon? back in the70's. The tracers were coming out so fast that the bullet stream looked like a laser. That CIWS looks waaay bigger and badder than the minis.

Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 9081609)

I remember seeing them in person and thinking how great they were. I don't remember the percentage but they aren't all tracers, like you said, they fired so fast they looked like a solid line snaking toward the earth.

Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 9081785)

I don't know about that but the tracers help the friendly on the ground.