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jyl 06-27-2016 06:42 PM

Do 1911s Have To Be Run Wet?
 
I think I've finally figured out how to get my 1911 to run reliably. It seems to need considerable lubrication. I'm stupid, I know. But my other guns don't need to be run wet. Do your 1911s require lots of lube to be reliable?

red-beard 06-27-2016 06:44 PM

I use Miltec 1 on an all stainless 1911. I use an acid brush to put the least amount on I can. Runs great. Which gun oil are you using?

Craig T 06-27-2016 06:57 PM

After cleaning I just spray a little Rem Oil on the parts and wipe off the excess before putting it back together. I don't have any issues with my Gold Cup Match or my FDE Gov. I certainly wouldn't consider it "wet".

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jyl 06-27-2016 07:24 PM

I was using grease on rails and lugs, because that's what the seller told me to do, way back when. But gun had a problem with failure to eject. Empty would end up trapped in the ejection port, usually pointing forward. I replaced recoil springs, made sure my grip was firm, no help. I recently started shooting it again, started having the same problems. Borrowed some gun oil from another shooter, dripped oil on extractor and other stuff an empty case would touch, and no more malfs. I need to put lots more rounds through it to be sure, though. Dunno what oil I borrowed, he had put it in a teeny cologne bottle. At home I have: Gunslick, Triflow, bike chain lube, 5W-20, ATF, synthetic bearing grease, WD40, I think that's about it for lube choices.

jyl 06-27-2016 07:32 PM

Having fun at the range again. Going to get my Luger working, have a replacement extractor ready to go in.

Thinking about buying a Hi-Power. Bunch of ex-cop HiPowers hitting Gunbroker now for $500. And saw a beautiful, >99% Belgian HiPower with factory adjustable sights, in box, at a local gun shop for $1600.

My best gun remains my old Glock 19 Gen 1. Have had that thing since new, maybe 1987? For my hands, it is accurate. Here's a full magazine at 50 feet, on a rifle target (I'm cheap and shoot at one piece of paper for the whole hour). First time I'd shot it in a year, felt like I'd never stopped. First shot was high left, second was low, after that the gun started getting its groove.

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jyl 06-27-2016 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 9177810)
Having fun at the range again. Going to get my Luger working, have a replacement extractor ready to go in.

Thinking about buying a Hi-Power. Bunch of ex-cop HiPowers hitting Gunbroker now for $500. And saw a beautiful, >99% Belgian HiPower with factory adjustable sights, in box, at a local gun shop for $1600.

My best gun remains my old Glock 19 Gen 1. Have had that thing since new, maybe 1987? For my hands, it is accurate. Here's a full magazine at 50 feet, on a rifle target (I'm cheap and shoot at one piece of paper for the whole hour). First time I'd shot it in a year, felt like I'd never stopped. First shot was high left, second was low, after that the gun started getting its groove.

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The taped-up .22 holes are from my Single-Six, which is a terribly inaccurate gun for me, considering the 7.5" barrel you'd think it would be a tack driver, but for me it's more of a point & pray.

Jrboulder 06-27-2016 08:48 PM

Hi Powers are fun. I'm on my 3rd, a 1951 Belgian E-series. It was like $500 on gun broker.

Bill Douglas 06-27-2016 09:23 PM

Mine runs best when oiled with a nice thin oil and plenty of it, and reasonably clean. It's a gunsmith built gun so tolerances are quite tight.

dtw 06-27-2016 09:37 PM

I run my 1911 lubed very sparingly.

red-beard 06-28-2016 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 9177804)
I was using grease on rails and lugs, because that's what the seller told me to do, way back when. But gun had a problem with failure to eject. Empty would end up trapped in the ejection port, usually pointing forward. I replaced recoil springs, made sure my grip was firm, no help. I recently started shooting it again, started having the same problems. Borrowed some gun oil from another shooter, dripped oil on extractor and other stuff an empty case would touch, and no more malfs. I need to put lots more rounds through it to be sure, though. Dunno what oil I borrowed, he had put it in a teeny cologne bottle. At home I have: Gunslick, Triflow, bike chain lube, 5W-20, ATF, synthetic bearing grease, WD40, I think that's about it for lube choices.

What is the temperature where and when you shoot? Grease is better in warmer climates. If you were having FTE and a few drips of oil in the extractor and those areas, maybe you were simply under or un-lubed all along.

red-beard 06-28-2016 02:20 AM

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id10t 06-28-2016 02:56 AM

Maybe. My RIA in 45 didn't need a lot of lube, neither did my perfect scale model Llama in 380. My GSG 1911-22 needed to be near drippy.

FWIW with the cost of 45 ammo I sold them off and bought a CZ 75 BD in 9mm

gogriz91 06-28-2016 05:02 PM

Variety of opinions but I went with Larry Vicker's mantra on 1911s, you can run it dirty but you cant run it dry...mine is very visibly lubed.

gr8fl4porsche 06-28-2016 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 9177810)
My best gun remains my old Glock 19 Gen 1. Have had that thing since new, maybe 1987?

Is it a real Gen 1 G19?

There are about 20 known to exist. They were made for the Kansas Dept of Alcoholic Beverage Control. They were G17 frames cut down by Glock to fit the new slide and mags. One recently sold on GB for $6,725.00

The 1st batch to hit the public were actually Gen 2's.

jyl 06-28-2016 05:55 PM

Oh, then its a Gen 2, but everyone refers to them as Gen 1s.

gr8fl4porsche 06-28-2016 06:20 PM

Gen 1 - production started in 1988. Gen 2 started later that same year.

Some say they're only 16 outside of the ones owned by Glock.

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Jeff Higgins 06-28-2016 07:45 PM

"Lubed sparingly" is how I would describe all of my guns. By no means "wet" or "dry", they are lubed and all excess is wiped off. I've found the lighter weights of Mobil 1 to be excellent gun oils, by the way. They never dry and get gummy, which also affects function.

Charles Freeborn 06-29-2016 06:33 AM

My favorite filming oil is Boeshield. Spray, wipe leaves a very light waxy film. They invented it for airplanes. Boeshield T-9® | Corrosion Protection and Waterproof Lubrication

red-beard 06-29-2016 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 9179255)
"Lubed sparingly" is how I would describe all of my guns. By no means "wet" or "dry", they are lubed and all excess is wiped off. I've found the lighter weights of Mobil 1 to be excellent gun oils, by the way. They never dry and get gummy, which also affects function.

Hmm. I think I'd like to try this. One quart will be a lifetime supply. What weight do you run? 0W-20W, 0W-40W?

vash 06-29-2016 07:19 AM

sounds like the perfect SHTF gun.


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