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wdfifteen 10-06-2016 05:54 AM

Not another Mac update
 
Apple is trying to get me to update to something called Sierra. Has anyone tried this? Will my Macbook Pro and/or my iMac go up in flames if I upgrade? Is there anything in Sierra that is a must-have improvement over OS 9? (just kidding - maybe)

id10t 10-06-2016 05:59 AM

Latest OS release... I'd wait a few weeks, make sure others don't have major issues...

MFAFF 10-06-2016 07:49 AM

Done... still alive....

pcardude 10-06-2016 09:07 AM

Don't do it if you rely on Adobe products

john70t 10-06-2016 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcardude (Post 9308161)
Don't do it if you rely on Adobe products

Adobe software seemed to be too inquisitive, and uses too many computer resources...
They have the patent on .pdf.

(But I wish that large-format CPU dump crap had never become an industry standard.)

Free alternative .pdf reader software seems to be a bit 'far and few in between'.
One option is Foxit for Macintosh:
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/sdk/pdf-sdk/osx/

I have no experience with this.

winders 10-06-2016 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 9308883)
Adobe software seemed to be too inquisitive, and uses too many computer resources...
They have the patent on .pdf.
(But I wish that large-format CPU dump had never become industry standard.)

Free alternative .pdf reader software seems to be a bit 'far and few in between'.
One option is Foxit for Macintosh:
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/sdk/pdf-sdk/osx/

I have no experience with this.

The included app "Preview" is a great PDF viewer.

Scott R 10-06-2016 06:22 PM

I got it the fist day and started a thread on it, it's excellent. Completely stable for me and I can now unlock my screen by having my watch near the laptop. That alone was worth it for me, well and having Siri is pretty nice too.

And I just thought of another thing, when I'm at work and my phone is locked up I get my text messages on my laptop now.

Shaun @ Tru6 10-06-2016 06:28 PM

I've been waiting for this. Scroll down for video.

john70t 10-06-2016 06:52 PM

(edit: I've had no experience with the Mac side.
Foxit .pdf viewer has worked well with an offline Win7 computer devoid of Microsoft sabotage)

Charles Freeborn 10-06-2016 07:20 PM

Depends on how old your Mac(s) is. My early 2009 is too old.

winders 10-06-2016 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 9309107)
Depends on how old your Mac(s) is. My early 2009 is too old.

So is my early 2008 Mac Pro. I am now waiting patiently (not) for the new iMacs to come out. I will be ordering a 27" model the moment the Apple web site lets me!

stomachmonkey 10-06-2016 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 9309107)
Depends on how old your Mac(s) is. My early 2009 is too old.

Quote:

Originally Posted by winders (Post 9309145)
So is my early 2008 Mac Pro. I am now patiently (not) for the new iMacs to come out. I will be ordering a 27" model the moment the Apple web site lets me!

It seems the most common component that indicates a dropped platform is DDR2 boxes although there are a couple of DDR2 laptops still compatible.

Curious.

Me thinks they are trying to faze out some of that older hardware that they simply overbuilt and a lot of us are still using because they work so well there is no need to upgrade.

widgeon13 10-07-2016 11:41 AM

If you have done the update, check Photos. I lost a bundle of my pics when I did the update. Not sure what happened but getting some crazy image where the picture used to be and an exclamation mark in the middle. Anyone else experience this?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475865695.jpg

stomachmonkey 10-07-2016 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 9309928)
If you have done the update, check Photos. I lost a bundle of my pics when I did the update. Not sure what happened but getting some crazy image where the picture used to be and an exclamation mark in the middle. Anyone else experience this?

How long has it been since the update?

Minutes or hours or days?

Did you upgrade from El Capitan or Yosemite?

Most importantly, did you back up?

widgeon13 10-07-2016 01:03 PM

Did the update when it first came out.

Have done the other updates as they came out and yes, have been doing back ups.

stomachmonkey 10-07-2016 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 9310070)
Did the update when it first came out.

Have done the other updates as they came out and yes, have been doing back ups.

Navigate to where pics are stored.

Do a visual and see if they are there.

Off the top of my head it could be anything from the library being corrupt and needing a rebuild to missing thumbnails.

Quit Photos.

Hold Option+Command while launching Photos.

Rebuild option should pop up.

widgeon13 10-07-2016 01:56 PM

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 9310143)
Navigate to where pics are stored.

Do a visual and see if they are there.

Off the top of my head it could be anything from the library being corrupt and needing a rebuild to missing thumbnails.

Quit Photos.

Hold Option+Command while launching Photos.

Rebuild option should pop up.


Charles Freeborn 10-07-2016 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 9309175)
It seems the most common component that indicates a dropped platform is DDR2 boxes although there are a couple of DDR2 laptops still compatible.

Curious.

Me thinks they are trying to faze out some of that older hardware that they simply overbuilt and a lot of us are still using because they work so well there is no need to upgrade.

It's common practice with computers to render older machines obsolete with system upgrades. It's how they sell you new stuff. When I get a new iMac I'll also have to get new external hard drives (if I want firewire speed), a new scanner (also firewire currently), yada yada... Who here remembers SCSI interface externals, or serial printers?
Yes, you can get adapters for earlier peripherals but frequently the makers of those devices don't update drivers, etc...
Yes it's a conspiracy, and thus proves why I love the analog simplicity of my '74 911...

stomachmonkey 10-07-2016 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 9310156)
It's common practice with computers to render older machines obsolete with system upgrades. It's how they sell you new stuff. When I get a new iMac I'll also have to get new external hard drives (if I want firewire speed), a new scanner (also firewire currently), yada yada... Who here remembers SCSI interface externals, or serial printers?
Yes, you can get adapters for earlier peripherals but frequently the makers of those devices don't update drivers, etc...
Yes it's a conspiracy, and thus proves why I love the analog simplicity of my '74 911...

I was being rhetorical.

You can always keep your peripherals and buy a $30.00 Firewire to Thunderbolt adaptor.

Loved and hated SCSI.

You needed to be up on your dark arts skills to get multiple chained devices to play nice but when it worked it worked.

wayner 10-07-2016 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 9310156)
It's common practice with computers to render older machines obsolete with system upgrades. It's how they sell you new stuff. When I get a new iMac I'll also have to get new external hard drives (if I want firewire speed), a new scanner (also firewire currently), yada yada... Who here remembers SCSI interface externals, or serial printers?
Yes, you can get adapters for earlier peripherals but frequently the makers of those devices don't update drivers, etc...
Yes it's a conspiracy, and thus proves why I love the analog simplicity of my '74 911...

It's not always common. The end user is not microsofts customer, the computer manufacturer typically is.

Apple has traditionally treated the end user as their customer, and has avoided these games in the past

winders 10-07-2016 02:29 PM

I am not all upset that Apple is not supporting my 2008 computer with the latest OS. The system is 8 years old! I am very pleased that my system has been so bullet proof and has performed so well that I had not considering replacing it until now!

I have never used a FireWire device on my 2008 Mac Pro.

stomachmonkey 10-07-2016 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner (Post 9310196)
It's not always common. The end user is not microsofts customer, the computer manufacturer typically is.

Apple has traditionally treated the end user as their customer, and has avoided these games in the past

To a point.

They've been really good about not disrupting users even through two rather significant architecture changes.

Was not a simple thing to keep peoples software / hardware investments viable through the swith from x86 to PPC then to Intel.

stomachmonkey 10-07-2016 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winders (Post 9310205)

I have never used a FireWire device on my 2008 Mac Pro.

Why not? It was so much better than USB.

winders 10-07-2016 03:50 PM

Everything I use is internal or doesn't matter. The keyboard and mouse are on USB and the printer is on Ethernet. The monitor plugs into the video card and the speakers plug into the sound port.

Charles Freeborn 10-07-2016 03:54 PM

My G4 tower (which I still have for the sole purpose of running a SCSI scanner) was rendered obsolete by the switch to Intel processors - which meant no Snow Leopard upgrade for it....
I think USB 3.0 is meant to be competitive with firewire - and yes adapters can be had... but a shiny new iMac...ooooohhhh.....me want....

stomachmonkey 10-07-2016 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 9310312)
...I think USB 3.0 is meant to be competitive with firewire....

Because everyone just see's theoretical throughput and thinks it's on par but that's not the whole story and ignores the primary advantage of firewire.

A firewire device requires no common processor.

You can plug any two firewire devices together and they can communicate / function collaboratively and independent of a PC.

That's actually dependent on the devices of course, they have to have a need for each others functions, a firewire NIC is useless to a digital camera if the camera does not have a network stack.

But what results from that is consistent throughput because you are not dependent on available CPU cycles or affected by processes that drag the host system down.

Plus you can daisy chain it and no SCSI voodoo to deal with.

widgeon13 10-08-2016 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 9310143)
Navigate to where pics are stored.

Do a visual and see if they are there.

Off the top of my head it could be anything from the library being corrupt and needing a rebuild to missing thumbnails.

Quit Photos.

Hold Option+Command while launching Photos.

Rebuild option should pop up.

Repair library didn't do anything but it turns out if I rotate one of the exclamation point pics, the image appears. If I rotate it back the image stays. Crazy. I'm guessing there will be an update to correct this problem, hopefully.


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