Not another Mac update

wdfifteen · wdfifteen's Garage

Apple is trying to get me to update to something called Sierra. Has anyone tried this? Will my Macbook Pro and/or my iMac go up in flames if I upgrade? Is there anything in Sierra that is a must-have improvement over OS 9? (just kidding - maybe)

id10t · 10-06-2016, 04:59 AM

Latest OS release... I'd wait a few weeks, make sure others don't have major issues...

MFAFF · 10-06-2016, 06:49 AM

Done... still alive....

pcardude · 10-06-2016, 08:07 AM

Don't do it if you rely on Adobe products

john70t · 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pcardude

Don't do it if you rely on Adobe products

Adobe software seemed to be too inquisitive, and uses too many computer resources...
They have the patent on .pdf.

(But I wish that large-format CPU dump crap had never become an industry standard.)

Free alternative .pdf reader software seems to be a bit 'far and few in between'.
One option is Foxit for Macintosh:
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/sdk/pdf-sdk/osx/

I have no experience with this.

winders · 10-06-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t

Adobe software seemed to be too inquisitive, and uses too many computer resources...
They have the patent on .pdf.
(But I wish that large-format CPU dump had never become industry standard.)

Free alternative .pdf reader software seems to be a bit 'far and few in between'.
One option is Foxit for Macintosh:
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/sdk/pdf-sdk/osx/

I have no experience with this.

The included app "Preview" is a great PDF viewer.

Scott R · Scott R's Garage

I got it the fist day and started a thread on it, it's excellent. Completely stable for me and I can now unlock my screen by having my watch near the laptop. That alone was worth it for me, well and having Siri is pretty nice too.

And I just thought of another thing, when I'm at work and my phone is locked up I get my text messages on my laptop now.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 10-06-2016, 05:28 PM

I've been waiting for this. Scroll down for video.

john70t · 10-06-2016, 05:52 PM

(edit: I've had no experience with the Mac side.
Foxit .pdf viewer has worked well with an offline Win7 computer devoid of Microsoft sabotage)

Charles Freeborn · Charles Freeborn's Garage

Depends on how old your Mac(s) is. My early 2009 is too old.

winders · 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn

Depends on how old your Mac(s) is. My early 2009 is too old.

So is my early 2008 Mac Pro. I am now waiting patiently (not) for the new iMacs to come out. I will be ordering a 27" model the moment the Apple web site lets me!

stomachmonkey · 10-06-2016, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn

Depends on how old your Mac(s) is. My early 2009 is too old.

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Originally Posted by winders

So is my early 2008 Mac Pro. I am now patiently (not) for the new iMacs to come out. I will be ordering a 27" model the moment the Apple web site lets me!

It seems the most common component that indicates a dropped platform is DDR2 boxes although there are a couple of DDR2 laptops still compatible.

Curious.

Me thinks they are trying to faze out some of that older hardware that they simply overbuilt and a lot of us are still using because they work so well there is no need to upgrade.

widgeon13 · 10-07-2016, 10:41 AM

If you have done the update, check Photos. I lost a bundle of my pics when I did the update. Not sure what happened but getting some crazy image where the picture used to be and an exclamation mark in the middle. Anyone else experience this?

stomachmonkey · 10-07-2016, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by widgeon13

If you have done the update, check Photos. I lost a bundle of my pics when I did the update. Not sure what happened but getting some crazy image where the picture used to be and an exclamation mark in the middle. Anyone else experience this?

How long has it been since the update?

Minutes or hours or days?

Did you upgrade from El Capitan or Yosemite?

Most importantly, did you back up?

widgeon13 · 10-07-2016, 12:03 PM

Did the update when it first came out.

Have done the other updates as they came out and yes, have been doing back ups.

stomachmonkey · 10-07-2016, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by widgeon13

Did the update when it first came out.

Have done the other updates as they came out and yes, have been doing back ups.

Navigate to where pics are stored.

Do a visual and see if they are there.

Off the top of my head it could be anything from the library being corrupt and needing a rebuild to missing thumbnails.

Quit Photos.

Hold Option+Command while launching Photos.

Rebuild option should pop up.

widgeon13 · 10-07-2016, 12:56 PM

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Navigate to where pics are stored.

Do a visual and see if they are there.

Off the top of my head it could be anything from the library being corrupt and needing a rebuild to missing thumbnails.

Quit Photos.

Hold Option+Command while launching Photos.

Rebuild option should pop up.

Charles Freeborn · Charles Freeborn's Garage

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

It seems the most common component that indicates a dropped platform is DDR2 boxes although there are a couple of DDR2 laptops still compatible.

Curious.

Me thinks they are trying to faze out some of that older hardware that they simply overbuilt and a lot of us are still using because they work so well there is no need to upgrade.

It's common practice with computers to render older machines obsolete with system upgrades. It's how they sell you new stuff. When I get a new iMac I'll also have to get new external hard drives (if I want firewire speed), a new scanner (also firewire currently), yada yada... Who here remembers SCSI interface externals, or serial printers?
Yes, you can get adapters for earlier peripherals but frequently the makers of those devices don't update drivers, etc...
Yes it's a conspiracy, and thus proves why I love the analog simplicity of my '74 911...

stomachmonkey · 10-07-2016, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn

It's common practice with computers to render older machines obsolete with system upgrades. It's how they sell you new stuff. When I get a new iMac I'll also have to get new external hard drives (if I want firewire speed), a new scanner (also firewire currently), yada yada... Who here remembers SCSI interface externals, or serial printers?
Yes, you can get adapters for earlier peripherals but frequently the makers of those devices don't update drivers, etc...
Yes it's a conspiracy, and thus proves why I love the analog simplicity of my '74 911...

I was being rhetorical.

You can always keep your peripherals and buy a $30.00 Firewire to Thunderbolt adaptor.

Loved and hated SCSI.

You needed to be up on your dark arts skills to get multiple chained devices to play nice but when it worked it worked.

wayner · 10-07-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn

It's common practice with computers to render older machines obsolete with system upgrades. It's how they sell you new stuff. When I get a new iMac I'll also have to get new external hard drives (if I want firewire speed), a new scanner (also firewire currently), yada yada... Who here remembers SCSI interface externals, or serial printers?
Yes, you can get adapters for earlier peripherals but frequently the makers of those devices don't update drivers, etc...
Yes it's a conspiracy, and thus proves why I love the analog simplicity of my '74 911...

It's not always common. The end user is not microsofts customer, the computer manufacturer typically is.

Apple has traditionally treated the end user as their customer, and has avoided these games in the past