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pwd72s 10-07-2016 11:13 AM

Mustang performance anybody?
 
Looking for a "well set up" 'Stang anybody? This one is being sold by a guy who posts on the Bullitt board. I read his posts on the mods as they happened. It'll handle about as well as a "stick" rear axle street car can, while having plenty of whoa with improved brakes. The blower power speaks for itself in the 1/4 mile time slips.

Why is he selling? Like me at age 73, he's thinking rowing a manual gearbox isn't the fun it used to be, so heading in a different direction.

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1990C4S 10-07-2016 11:49 AM

They should sell a 'cow-catcher' for the front bumper with every super-charger.

Quick disconnect pins would be nice, just slap it on before you head off to 'Cars and Coffee'.

scottmandue 10-07-2016 12:14 PM

I'm sure it would be a hoot to drive but that is my least favorite of the new(er) Mustang body styles.

It is at $27K with 9 days to go, whatever it ends up going for I think I could do better with my hard earned $$$

Hope you friend gets a good sale,

This would be more my speed @ $29K:
Turbo 4 banger slush box (does the 6 speed have steering wheel paddles?) new:
Cars for Sale: New 2017 Ford Mustang in Coupe, Torrance CA: 90505 Details - Coupe - Autotrader

As the old saying goes..."but the newest Mustang you can afford" :D

onewhippedpuppy 10-07-2016 12:18 PM

I've had several Stage 3 Roush Mustangs, they are fun cars in their own way. Nice looking car, I bet he's losing his ass with all the upgrades that he put into it. If it were me I'd come up with a few thousand more and buy a Boss 302.

cockerpunk 10-07-2016 12:34 PM

590 rwhp
all season tires


and we wonder why these things are flying out of control at every car meet?

onewhippedpuppy 10-07-2016 01:31 PM

They are way under tired as well, I think the stock Roush Stage 3 only had a 275 tire out back.

DanielDudley 10-07-2016 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 9310123)
590 rwhp
all season tires


and we wonder why these things are flying out of control at every car meet?

They go flying because when you lift, a 500HP motor just about locks up the rear wheels. It's a classic handbrake turn.

masraum 10-07-2016 02:06 PM

I'm sure it's a hoot to drive, but that'd be a handful as a daily driver so I'll pass. :D

onewhippedpuppy 10-07-2016 02:11 PM

They are actually good daily drivers. Comfy ride, good feature content, sound great, reasonably entertaining.

sugarwood 10-07-2016 03:38 PM

Why is a solid rear axle so bad for handling?
It's not like you're going off roading.
On a perfectly paved track, how can this even be an issue?

Nostril Cheese 10-07-2016 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 9310371)
Why is a solid rear axle so bad for handling?
It's not like you're going off roading.
On a perfectly paved track, how can this even be an issue?

Its just people not knowing HOW to drive a car with a solid rear axle.

sugarwood 10-08-2016 03:41 AM

Quote:


This means if one wheel hits a pothole on one side, the other wheel will feel it, and move accordingly.
On a hypothetical, super-smooth track surface, this may hardly matter.

^^ Looks like my intuition was correct.
Live axle debate (for track cars) seems like another example of automotive trivia minutia that has little bearing on real life outside of statistical internet pissing matches.
(For non-track cars, there is no difference between a Camry and a Supercar, because speed limit, and every one here obeys it. Cue Magnus bashing.)

The One Tweak To The 2015 Ford Mustang That Will Change It Forever

pavulon 10-08-2016 03:58 AM

I would imagine track cars running 10/10ths use all of the track available. Doing that would require running on the curbs in corners--making no track super-smooth. Further, if the difference is trivial, wouldn't straight axle front suspensions become common at the track as well?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 9310845)

This means if one wheel hits a pothole on one side, the other wheel will feel it, and move accordingly.
On a hypothetical, super-smooth track surface, this may hardly matter.


Looks like my intuition was correct.
Live axle debate (for track cars) seems like another example of automotive trivia minutia that has little bearing on real life outside of statistical internet pissing matches.
(For non-track cars, there is no difference between a Camry and a Supercar, because speed limit, and every one here obeys it. Cue Magnus bashing.)

The One Tweak To The 2015 Ford Mustang That Will Change It Forever


beepbeep 10-08-2016 04:31 AM

How do you get positive camber gain when cornering with live axle? As far as I know, live axle does not allow camber, caster or bumpsteer. It is just a wibbly-wobbly straight rod...

onewhippedpuppy 10-08-2016 04:39 AM

This makes for fun bench racing, but in reality you really only notice the live axle when hitting large. bumps that tend to unsettle the car from side to side. That's when you can get some axle hop. Anything else you should probably be on the track.

HardDrive 10-08-2016 07:01 AM

Unless your goal is to launch a car as fast as possible in a straight line, live axle is inferior technology. Period. The 'perfect surface' that would let a live axle not get disturbed doesn't exist. I got rid of my 997, and replaced it with a Mustang. Love the Mustang, but I don't have illusions that it handles as well as a well setup 944.

pwd72s 10-08-2016 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 9311013)
Unless your goal is to launch a car as fast as possible in a straight line, live axle is inferior technology. Period. The 'perfect surface' that would let a live axle not get disturbed doesn't exist. I got rid of my 997, and replaced it with a Mustang. Love the Mustang, but I don't have illusions that it handles as well as a well setup 944.

Exactly...but in real street and road driving, you adapt. Hell, I find myself lucky to use a small percentage of what my stock '09 Bullitt Mustang is capable of with the traffic conditions of today. When used for point A to point B...home to my favorite pool hall & back, it serves me well...even with it's mere 315 horsepower. Mountain passes in Oregon? It takes it's place in a long line behind a motor home just as well as a Ferrari. Maybe even better because of it's good creature comforts.


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