Boeing 707 first class seating, 1959 on.
 

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Amazing. Going all the way back to 1959 they had permanently fixed arm-rests.

A feature carried forward to the present.

"Excuse me, stewardess, I speak Jive"

That first picture looks like an exit row. And the second pictures shows you can still be touchy freely if you want despite the fixed armrest.

Nice try though.

Yes, but she said Donald flipped up the arm rest.

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And 1980...

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So you like the tabloid smears, do ya?

Have you ever heard the term Conformational Bias?

I am amazed at the ease some people bite on stories that they want to be true.

Don't read this: witness comes forward to refute sex assault claim | New York Post
For it will clash with your conformational bias.
And certainly do not read this http://www.infowars.com/busted-trump-sex-allegations-full-of-holes/

He upset the Clinton's and that's it. It's really that simple.

I heard there was a gent from London seated directly across the aisle. Recognized The Donald and remembers the young lady trying to flirt with DT in an obvious fashion. DT was having none of it. I wonder what that lady is being paid to passionately claim the opposite 30+ years later.

No worries, I'm sure CNN and NBC will cover that side of the story so their viewers will have a complete picture. That would be good journalism. Oh, wait....never mind.

It's confirmational bias, not conformational bias. Your mistake is quintessentially Freudian.

Why did you not post this in PARF where it belongs?

Because this is a TABLOID story, devoid of politics. Well if you can separate out who orchestrated these TABLOID fabrications, and why. Then we are left with understanding the clues that make these fabrications fall apart. Such as the physical space of first-class seating.

oh, and I did mean to write conformational bias; as the reaction of so many is to Conform to a popular outrage narrative du jour. Such people are terrified that display of critical (or independent) thinking will -out- them as nonconforming, and lead to their shunning by the herd. --Fearful, they conform to whatever popular promulgated narrative comes along.

For example, some people get bent if they see a word in a place that they don't expect. They say, No no.. THAT is the wrong word. You made a mistake. All because they can't handle deviation / non-conformance.

But thanks for noticing. :)

ahh...my apologies for not grasping the cutting edge terminology and insight. SmileWavy

Boeing 707 first class seating, 1959 on.
 

I googled "first class armrests". There were planes that had folding first class armrests back then, particularly on the smaller planes flying into LaGuardia at the time in question. Nice try though [emoji4].

I have to say, I wasn't sure anyone would notice. --thought I would be using it for a while before anyone said anything.

BTW, because you seem interested in details, you said It's confirmational bias, not conformational bias. --what you were trying to correct to is actually confirmation bias. (no "al") :)

The story she tells is of a Braniff 707 out of Dallas - Braniff had no 707's out of Dallas then. (727's) http://www.departedflights.com/BN102879p52.html

Braniff 727's had the huge unfolding first class armrests.

A Brit on that flight remembered the coach woman because she was painfully hitting on the rich guy she got sat next to.

The woman could have said that the aircraft was a flying saucer, and she was alien-probed, and you would insist it so. --"The alien was an octopus being, probing my every crevice.. :eek:

It's so fun to be outraged by these stories. They set the lil pea-brains all a twitter. (or Facebook)

Would hope that once called to attention, most would a) find the various sorts of biases really interesting, and b) wonder how many apply to themselves, how often and where/when.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

FWIW, I am/was disgusted and depressed by the outcomes of the primaries. I plan on protesting all POTUS choices this round.

Now I sit back and watch. One has a positive message (even if he's Yugely* FOS) the other is all negative, all the time. But at least she is massively lawless and covering. Impressively she juggles both worlds, while manufacturing even more false narratives. --impressive vortex of destruction.

*sic ( I know you expected Hugely)

Another 707 interior shothttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476635208.jpg

Nice ^ Coach ^

Obviously.

What a time that must have been; the Jet age. So much good life with a culture focused on advancing the middle class via technology.

Our generation has cell phones and information a plenty. --Information can be a good thing. Albeit an abyss. (see my sig)

Off topic to the real conversation, but that is a staged picture... no one is smoking! I can't actually believe people were allowed to smoke on planes.

I remember being on a plane when they allowed smoking and some poor soul was seated in the "non smoking" section albeit one row removed. He had a fit when the guy behind him blew the smoke over his seat.


One more thing... they sure are white. No wonder Trump supporters glamorize the 50s

Thanks for the awesome pic of the 707. My sister was a flight attendant back in the '60s.(Called an air hostess in those days).

To qualify she had be 21, single and have nursing experience. She had all of the above and started flying on Bristol Britannia's. She ended up flying 707's.

Duty days were brutal . She worked for a charter airline in the UK and 16 to 20 hours on duty in those days was not uncommon. Troop charters to Singapore etc. Turbo props were not that fast so it took just about twice as long to get anywhere. At the end of some long days she used to come home and cry from fatigue.

It was considered pretty glamorous to be an air hostess in those days. A couple of memories I had of her life in those days. One weekend she brought home a flight attendant girlfriend and the latter had a miscarriage. Happy to say that I was not there.

My sister had a pilot boyfriend who had a young son. She decided to split up with him and he kept her at his place at gunpoint. My father went to rescue her and brought her home and both came home safely.

I was a teenager then and the 60's seemed crazy but it was fun.:)

Nope, never have heard of conformational bias. Is that like peer pressure? ;) :D

I have however heard of confirmation bias

"Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias, is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities."

^covered earlier. :)
Pre flight; right? --no smoking until the light goes off. ;)

Stateside they were called 'stewardess' and of which they had strict physical requirements.

The days of miniskirts and hot pants :)

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Another case where my anecdote Trumps yours, eh ?

Don't concern yourself with forum rules, they were created for those others.

How the heck did an airplane thread get PARF'd?

lol, it seems like pretty much ANYTHING can get PARFed around here.


My first airplane ride was on a 707. Here I am with my Mom and Sister at Berlin's Tegel Airport waiting for our flight to New York circa 1963-64. I'm wearing something from what appears to be the Junior UPS driver collection. http://www.mye28.com/images/smilies/laugh2.gif


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I was born in '59. I could have been conceived on that very plane.

Fantastic photo!

If it makes the voices happy that's enuff.
Real doesn't matter, true doesn't matter, FEEL is all that matters.

When I was 9 (1964) we went to Italy in 1st class on a 707. Great experience. I have a Polaroid of me in my seat reading the menu. Yes, the stewardess took a picture of you/family for remembrance back then.

That's a DC-8 in the background... United did not use ANY 707's.

But I'm sure that you didn't fly on that exact plane. :)

No, that would have been a little cramped and breezy :). Mom says we flew Pan Am.

PanAm was the legacy 707 carrier... the first.

Look at all that high cost. We need to cut that right away. All that money could be going into our pockets instead of being wasted on quality and comfort.

This was the first 707 I ever flew on. We did not fly first class but were back in "steerage" with the rest of the peons.
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One of my earliest memories is going to Puerto Rico in 63 or 64 by PanAm 707...great thread

PSA was the first airline I ever flew on. My mom, two older brothers and I flew from the Los Angeles area to San Francisco on an old DC-4. I don't think we flew out of LAX, may have been Burbank or something like that. We took a cab from SF over to Oakland where we got on this plane to fly to Okinawa. Now that was a loooong flight with stops in Hawaii, Wake Island and Guam.
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My first flight was in 1956, when 7, from London Heathrow to Munich, in a British European Airways Airspeed Ambassador..