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sc_rufctr 12-20-2016 01:04 AM

I have close friends who live in Berlin. They're angry.

Seems Angela isn't as popular as she used to be and the far right are gaining traction.
I don't really have an opinion about Germany but something must change and soon.

berettafan 12-20-2016 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 9402638)
Not to PARF this up Peter, but it may take a rich, arrogant and completely unconventional US president who can somehow rally the free peoples of the world...

Yep.

seafeye 12-20-2016 03:14 AM

I think the rich are the ones that provoke this kind of attack. These attacks are all designed to hurt the economy. 911 is a perfect example. We have people who can't afford health care in this country but we have health care pharmaceutical CEO's making $100 million a year. When on average in America, a CEO makes 273 times the average salary of their employee.
Why should a middle class worker in America pay 30% income tax but the trumps pay zero?
I fear Jan 20th this will all get worse.

widgeon13 12-20-2016 03:26 AM

This didn't happen in the US, it happened in Germany! How can you blame the rich in America? That is a real stretch.:mad:

Arizona_928 12-20-2016 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9402540)
You can't put armed citizens at every farmer's market in the world.

Fixed it for ya

seafeye 12-20-2016 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 9402887)
This didn't happen in the US, it happened in Germany! How can you blame the rich in America? That is a real stretch.:mad:

A previous post brought up how the next president can bring change. All I said was that it was his type that has made this world a worse place.

Donald Trump 2016 "Isis needs to be eradicated from the face of the earth"

Lincoln "don't I destroy an enemy if I make him my friend?"

widebody911 12-20-2016 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 9402927)
Donald Trump 2016 "Isis needs to be eradicated from the face of the earth"

Judging by how he's backed down on pretty much every one of campaign mantras so far, I expect he'll appoint an ISIS jihadi to his cabinet.

Crowbob 12-20-2016 06:30 AM

Fräulein Merkel must be experiencing some major regret. At least for her salvation I hope she is. It is amazing how isolated and insulated these politicians are. Who did not see this coming? Are these leaders that delusional? What arrogance, what kind of psychological aberration is necessary to embrace and implement such a policy?

Show some shame, Madam. Apologize and weep for all of Europe. Go away, shrivel and die bathed in remorse, fool!

Rikao4 12-20-2016 06:57 AM

one would think ..but..
NO..she's doubling down ..
& the press and authorities are playing along...
last thing they want is to admit..
we f'kd up and it's to late now..
German culture & Muesli...
water & oil..

Rika

widgeon13 12-20-2016 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 9402927)
A previous post brought up how the next president can bring change. All I said was that it was his type that has made this world a worse place.

Donald Trump 2016 "Isis needs to be eradicated from the face of the earth"

Lincoln "don't I destroy an enemy if I make him my friend?"

Good luck on making ISIS your friend!

Joe Bob 12-20-2016 07:32 AM

German Police just announced they arrested the driver but it's the wrong guy...apparently.

berettafan 12-20-2016 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 9402884)
I think the rich are the ones that provoke this kind of attack. These attacks are all designed to hurt the economy. 911 is a perfect example. We have people who can't afford health care in this country but we have health care pharmaceutical CEO's making $100 million a year. When on average in America, a CEO makes 273 times the average salary of their employee.
Why should a middle class worker in America pay 30% income tax but the trumps pay zero?
I fear Jan 20th this will all get worse.

so the jihadis left notes at each of their terror attacks complaining of these issues?

strange it wasn't reported on the news.

seafeye 12-20-2016 08:02 AM

So the news now is accurate?
We have to accept that there are people in this world who want to kill you because they want to kill you.
The only way to change this behavior is to give them a new focus. Farming, families, jobs etc...
Blowing up their villages or cities isn't going to change their goal, it will fuel it.

Those people don't hate you -- they are full of love.
But that makes lousy headlines.
So go look for them. Because the people in the media sure as hell won't show them to you.

berettafan 12-20-2016 08:15 AM

full of love? Reiver, through his thread on understanding islam, has shown that there is in fact no love for westerners, only threats of murder. you are factually incorrect.

I've never seen a more bitter, hateful, misogynistic, murderous, rape happy culture in my life.

Not sure where love fits in there.

widgeon13 12-20-2016 08:47 AM

There is no love, never will be just death and destruction.

They don't want jobs or farms, they just want us dead! Not too hard to understand.

varmint 12-20-2016 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9402821)
Eloi waiting to be slaughtered and eaten by the ISIS Morlocks.



There is a problem with your analogy. The Morlocks worked and fed the eloi. In Europe the morlocks are largely unemployed.

Rikao4 12-20-2016 09:14 AM

of Germany Morlocks 1 million PLUS last year alone..
30 K are somewhat employed...
the rest a busy raping frauleins and kicking folks down stairs..
lucky for them I moved..

Rika

ossiblue 12-21-2016 07:07 AM

Latest reports indicate much forensic evidence found in truck cab, including a lot of blood. The initial suspect was released because none of the evidence could be tied to him, especially the DNA, and no blood was found on this clothing.

No one, as yet reported, saw the driver in the truck, saw the driver leave the truck, or videoed the driver leaving the cab. Additionally, the truck sped through the market for a relatively short distance and came to a halt without hitting a barrier or by any other external means. These revelations made me think, could it be that the driver set up a mechanism that would allow the truck to move ahead at speed without anyone at the wheel and he jumped out before even reaching the area of the market attack? I'm not talking about a "Mission Impossible" type arrangement with electronics or special equipment, but rather something as simple as setting a hand throttle (maybe that truck had one?) or a wedge on the accelerator pedal, and a simple cord to hold the wheel in a straight position (the path of the attack was down a straight street.) This would allow the driver to escape before even arriving at the scene of the attack and be nowhere near the end result. He'd be long gone by the time authorities arrived.

Now, if and when more information is released, the above speculation may be clearly impossible, but at this point, it seems to me to be a viable theory.

Rikao4 12-21-2016 07:33 AM

agree..
he killed the lights before turning into the market area..
once rolling and folks are running or under it..
he bailed..would have been nice had he gotten caught by a wheel ..

now their talking about some ID papers he may have left behind..
which belong to a known previous terror probe suspect...
which the Germans wanted to sent back..
Tunesia said NO..and so the Germans let him roam again..

which is what we do with apprehended illegals..


Rika

Deschodt 12-21-2016 09:08 AM

Once again, the perpetrator is not a buddhist.. shocking, I know...


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