Remington 9mm @ $.20 per round

Haven't see it this low in a while. Just ordered 1K. This will only fit guns/firearms/weapons. They don't have any loads for effin spoons.

https://www.slickguns.com/product/remington-umc-9mm-115-gr-fmj-50-rnds-1049

[id10t]

Same price Wally sells the Perfecta from serbia for. The Perfecta is good stuff....

[flatbutt]

So 115 gr not so good for home defense?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

So 115 gr not so good for home defense?

I want to say that it was Sniper that really liked light-weight high-speed rounds. I'm far from expert, but my opinion based on reading various sources is that slow and heavy (and deeply penetrating) is the way to go, at least for something like .380 or 9mm. So for 9mm, I'd stick with 147gr or maybe 124gr +P. 115 is fine for the range though.

[id10t]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

So 115 gr not so good for home defense?

115grn in 9mm is the "standard" weight. BUT... what was posted is FMJ ammo. Great for range, but no expansion.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by id10t

115grn in 9mm is the "standard" weight. BUT... what was posted is FMJ ammo. Great for range, but no expansion.

I'm OK with that in a defensive round in 9mm. There seems to be a fair amount of evidence of poor expansion of .380 and 9mm or expansion but not much penetration.

I opt for a flat nose FMJ in 9mm. No expansion, but it should penetrate.

[HardDrive]

I have found the perfect round that offers both penetration and expansion, with lots of energy transfer. 165gr JHP....in .40.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by id10t

115grn in 9mm is the "standard" weight. BUT... what was posted is FMJ ammo. Great for range, but no expansion.

Still I'd think that 115 gr would be fine for stopping an uninvited visitor. Even if you're off of center mass by a few ticks it should provide enough discouragement.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

I have found the perfect round that offers both penetration and expansion, with lots of energy transfer. 165gr JHP....in .40.

It's pretty darn good

Any bullet that will go into a creep is a good home defense round.

[Tobra]

Just got a thousand of Winchester 124 gr NATO $209 It is like a +P, or that is my understanding.

360 days until mail order goes away for California and you need a background check to purchase ammo. Next year I need to buy all I will use before I leave.

Originally Posted by Tobra

Just got a thousand of Winchester 124 gr NATO $209 It is like a +P, or that is my understanding.

360 days until mail order goes away for California and you need a background check to purchase ammo. Next year I need to buy all I will use before I leave.

Great deal! Interesting that we are seeing some deals in 9mm. Prices for 223 may be a couple cents lower now, but not much. Really wish I could find quality 6.5 Creedmoor for less than 1.40...

[Jim Bremner]

Tobra, care to share where?

[djmcmath]

I don't really *need* more 9mm ammo, but ... no sense in not buying a few boxes (20) when the price drops like that.

[Jim Bremner]

My 9mm is a Springfield EMP 1911 with a 3" Barrel. Defense ammo is a Factory HP round that's 150 gr and loaded for short barrel pistols. 115 gr is practice ammo.

[Joeaksa]

The more expensive it gets, sure makes reloading worth it...

[red-beard]

Hey JOE! Welcome back!

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

So 115 gr not so good for home defense?

For HD/SD, I'd probably stick with 124gr-147gr stuff, but it depends on the specific pistol/barrel length. My personal all-around fav is Speer Gold-Dot 124gr +p.
FWIW, I believe the 9x19mm round was originally designed/optimized using a 124gr projo weight.

Originally Posted by Tobra

Just got a thousand of Winchester 124 gr NATO $209 It is like a +P, or that is my understanding.

The NATO stuff can actually be a bit hotter than some of the +p offerings out there.

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Hey JOE! Welcome back!

Yeah bud, where ya been?

[Tobra]

SG Ammo

They list it as $10 more per 1000 now, and out of stock