python anyone?

id10t · 02-09-2017, 03:36 PM

Think it is time I learn a little bit about yet another programming language.

Due to its popularity as a "teaching how to program" language, I think I'm gonna try python. Add another bullet point to the resume.

Anyone have a book recommendation or a good tutorial site?

masraum · 02-09-2017, 04:49 PM

Well, I'd recommend coursera - https://www.coursera.org/courses?languages=en&query=python

except I don't think you need a teacher.

I really need to learn Python.

I really don't want to.

But I do want to know how to code python.

sc_rufctr · 02-09-2017, 04:54 PM

That's not a snake...

Jeff Higgins · 02-09-2017, 05:08 PM

I learned Python 35 years ago. One of the dumbest things I've ever done is "unlearn" it about 20 years ago. I need to re-learn it, but it ain't gonna be cheap...

(Not mine)

targa911S · 02-10-2017, 04:23 AM

Colt is gonna start making them again.

Jeff Higgins · 02-10-2017, 05:07 AM

Wow - I don't know what to make of that. They have been pretty adamant that there would never be another one, what with its cost to manufacture and everything.

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I've actually taken a couple of python classes, but like any language (programming or otherwise) if you don't use it, you lose it. Every now and then I'll start coding a new task in python, and then run into an issue, and not knowing if the problem is with me or what I'm trying to do, I go back to perl. For example, a couple of weeks ago I was [trying to] writing a script to automate the creation of tickets in Remedy; I could connect to the Remedy server, but couldn't it to connect. I ditched python and tried it in perl, and found out that the Remedy implementation was on a non-standard port. The python "error stack" was double-plus-unhelpful in figuring this out. Once I had a working connection, I said "screw it" and did the rest in perl.

One thing that infuriates me about Python is the SJW-esque sensitivity to formatting; it's almost as bad as RPG III. (if that doesn't date me, only radio-carbon will)

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Now that's a big ol' steak!

edgemar · 02-10-2017, 07:58 AM

great class from zero knowledge....I'm almost through the whole thing..

https://mva.microsoft.com/en-us/training-courses/introduction-to-programming-with-python-8360?l=lqhuMxFz_8904984382

pavulon · 02-10-2017, 03:09 PM

Bill Douglas · 02-10-2017, 04:50 PM

Not all pythons are smart. This one ate a piglet so the pigs attacked and ate the python.

74-911 · 02-11-2017, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by widebody911

...... it's almost as bad as RPG III. (if that doesn't date me, only radio-carbon will)

Dated you say ?? let us discuss Fortran or Cobol or EasyCoder assembly langauge....

targa911S · 02-11-2017, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Wow - I don't know what to make of that. They have been pretty adamant that there would never be another one, what with its cost to manufacture and everything.

yeah they had them at SHOT..they are making the 1903 hammerless again as well.

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Originally Posted by 74-911

Dated you say ?? let us discuss Fortran or Cobol or EasyCoder assembly langauge....

My first professional coding job was slinging COBOL for Transamerica.

id10t · 02-11-2017, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 74-911

Dated you say ?? let us discuss Fortran or Cobol or EasyCoder assembly langauge....

I started wtih TRS-80 basic (when the TRS80 was new) and a little z80 assembler. I did both Fortran and Cobol in my freshman year of high school. Then got onto Turbo Pascal. Visual Basic (4 and 5), C, C++, a little perl, PHP, Java, JavaScript.

But I may end up teaching a "intro to how to program" and the person developing it decided to use python. Dunno why, she's a terrible programmer, but there it is...

Turns out my Linux admin students had serious issues, so instead of playing iwth programming I'm spending the weekend setting up practice drills on determining where/how/why network connectivity is failing (which they should've learned 2 years ago - this kids are about to graduate). Means I'm gonna end up with 10 or 12 virtual machines going at once. Gotta love modern stuff.

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masraum · 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by id10t

But I may end up teaching a "intro to how to program" and the person developing it decided to use python. Dunno why, she's a terrible programmer, but there it is...

Turns out my Linux admin students had serious issues, so instead of playing iwth programming I'm spending the weekend setting up practice drills on determining where/how/why network connectivity is failing (which they should've learned 2 years ago - this kids are about to graduate). Means I'm gonna end up with 10 or 12 virtual machines going at once. Gotta love modern stuff.

Python is big these days, so not a bad thing. In my realm, Python seems to be the flavor du jour.

THank you for teaching them network troubleshooting. I have worked with many, many "server" guys over the years that were clueless when it came to network troubleshooting. I don't expect them to be able to troubleshoot what I do, but they should be able to troubleshoot the basics. IP, subnet mask and default gateways get configured on servers and workstations. Servers and workstations have arp tables. You should know how to use them. Don't even get me started on multi-homed servers with routing tables and asymmetric routing.