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stomachmonkey 10-23-2017 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 9543013)
Can I get Kodi Exodus through a DVD player with wifi? I can get to Netflix and Prime with it.

Likely not.

There would need to be a build of KODI that runs on the DVD players OS.

Then you need a way to install it.

I've never seen a DVD player that has an "install additional apps" feature.

Meaning what you get is what it comes with or gets updated with by the manufacturer.

You might be able to side load.

Likely not worth the hassle when you can grab a current gen Raspberry PI kit form Amazon that will come with everything you need plus the ability to run a VPN solution which if you are running Exodus is something you should be doing.

Everything kit

https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Kit/dp/B01C6Q2GSY/ref=sr_1_1?srs=15547130011&ie=UTF8&qid=1508777837& sr=8-1&keywords=raspberry+pi

Bring your own SD card and HDMI cable

https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Clear-Power-Supply/dp/B01C6EQNNK/ref=sr_1_3?srs=15547130011&ie=UTF8&qid=1508777837& sr=8-3&keywords=raspberry+pi

Bring your own SD, HDMI, and power supply which is really any 5 watt cellphone charger. Case not really required either, velcro to the back of the TV.

https://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Model-1-2GHz-64-bit-quad-core/dp/B01CD5VC92/ref=sr_1_2?srs=15547130011&ie=UTF8&qid=1508777837& sr=8-2&keywords=raspberry+pi

red-beard 11-13-2019 05:16 AM

Thread bump. I was helping someone in my neighborhood and came across these DVRs for OTA TV.

https://www.groundedreason.com/ota-dvr-without-cable/

mfiazzo 11-13-2019 05:22 AM

I use Roku, I can download different channel apps that pretty much give me anything I need including live sporting events and live news feeds including FOX.

Deschodt 11-13-2019 06:30 AM

Not advocating anything over another thing, really... but I recently cut the cord (and bumped my internet to gigabit fiber, no cap), and we don't miss cable one bit. Lots of flexibility in the offerings for live TV... tons of apps out there though I prefer the ones native to my smart TVs as sometimes the external stuff need a reboot or fries (went through 2 fire sticks)

For the moment I've settled on YoutubeTV because 70 live channels, a decent DVR (if a little weird, you cannot delete something you watched, it just drops off eventually), and a decent library too. You get ads on their library contents but you can FFWD on the new content you "recorded" (it's not really recorded, just indexed as something for you). Not saying its better than others but it is rock solid, high quality and zero buffering issues, Sony's Vue offering just closed shop, this is about $50 and I still get F1, IMSA (well, would if the season wasn't over), all the news and football... If something better comes along, no muss no fuss I'll switch over. It works very well so far, is fast, and has a guide like cable did.

Bonus: during the power outages, we were able to watch live TV and follow the fires near us on Ipads and iphones.

Arthropraxis 11-13-2019 06:37 AM

Looking for a service since Playstation Vue is shutting down. I have been looking into Hulu Live and Youtube TV. Anyone have experience with both of these?

Deschodt 11-13-2019 06:39 AM

See just above - I was between Vue and youtube TV, it's not bad.

Pazuzu 11-13-2019 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 10655835)
Thread bump. I was helping someone in my neighborhood and came across these DVRs for OTA TV.

https://www.groundedreason.com/ota-dvr-without-cable/

I've been using a Tivo Roamio for a few years now, it is the bomb a the kids say.

It has built in support for Netflix/Hulu/Amazon and several others, and you can do a global search (for example,search for Avengers) and it will find all of the places where it is, list them, then let you decide where to go. You can make global collections of a TV show, and it will find old episodes online and new ones OTA and bundle the whole thing together.

The only thing it doesn't do (because Roku locked down the rights) is a few streaming services. HBONow, Starz, mayeb a few others. I can buy HBO by the month through Amazon Video, but I can't do HBONow directly.

biosurfer1 11-13-2019 02:30 PM

I have Sling with an AirTV player for OTA channels. So far so good and very easy to add/subtract channels you want at different times.

Like right now, for example, I pay $10/month for a bunch of sports channels including Redzone, which I love, and also my wife likes those Christmas movies on Hallmark so I added that package of channels. Come January, I'll drop both and save $15/month.

So much better than cable where you pay all year for channels you dont watch or care about.

red-beard 11-13-2019 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 10656376)
I've been using a Tivo Roamio for a few years now, it is the bomb a the kids say.

It has built in support for Netflix/Hulu/Amazon and several others, and you can do a global search (for example,search for Avengers) and it will find all of the places where it is, list them, then let you decide where to go. You can make global collections of a TV show, and it will find old episodes online and new ones OTA and bundle the whole thing together.

The only thing it doesn't do (because Roku locked down the rights) is a few streaming services. HBONow, Starz, mayeb a few others. I can buy HBO by the month through Amazon Video, but I can't do HBONow directly.

And that is a point made in the Article. It doesn't replace a Roku for streaming. As long as it can get Sling and the time sensitive streaming and do OTA, you can use a Roku for on demand. A pain to switch devices, yes.

We bought my mother a new "Roku" TV (by TCL) with Roku built in. I am NOT happy with it. You have to access the Roku function every time you turn it on, even if you just want to watch Cable. And the TV remote does not have volume control.

Pazuzu 11-13-2019 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 10656457)
And that is a point made in the Article. It doesn't replace a Roku for streaming. As long as it can get Sling and the time sensitive streaming and do OTA, you can use a Roku for on demand. A pain to switch devices, yes.
.

Roku has made a whole business around "we stream anything", and they're specifically known for cutting deals with all sorts of strange and obscure channels. It's their bread and butter.

Tivo is known for "we DVR anything", so those same streaming services won't cut a contract with them. My Tivo does Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, Vudu, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, and a few others. I have a Roku sitting in the drawer, "just in case", and it gets pulled out every 2 years or so for some specific event. For example, the Astros post season, we did a free trial of Youtube TV to get FS1, to watch the games. Roku had that, Tivo didn't. But, fact is, the Tivo does 99.99% of the minutes of TV watching that we do in a year.
I paid $99 and now pay $15 month(for the TV guide), had it for 3 years now? So I've paid $550 total and growing? They changed the payment to $350 up front, nothing per month, which means it's SUPER cheap after 2 years or so.

red-beard 11-13-2019 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 10656700)
Roku has made a whole business around "we stream anything", and they're specifically known for cutting deals with all sorts of strange and obscure channels. It's their bread and butter.

Tivo is known for "we DVR anything", so those same streaming services won't cut a contract with them. My Tivo does Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, Vudu, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, and a few others. I have a Roku sitting in the drawer, "just in case", and it gets pulled out every 2 years or so for some specific event. For example, the Astros post season, we did a free trial of Youtube TV to get FS1, to watch the games. Roku had that, Tivo didn't. But, fact is, the Tivo does 99.99% of the minutes of TV watching that we do in a year.
I paid $99 and now pay $15 month(for the TV guide), had it for 3 years now? So I've paid $550 total and growing? They changed the payment to $350 up front, nothing per month, which means it's SUPER cheap after 2 years or so.

Hmmmm. It might be a good choice for my office. One time fee of around $350 and a DTV OTA antenna.

Pazuzu 11-13-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 10656702)
Hmmmm. It might be a good choice for my office. One time fee of around $350 and a DTV OTA antenna.

Although, it seems that only the defunct-but-still-available-on-amazon Roamio is that price. They're replacement the Bolt has a monthly fee, but lots more "stuff"

Pazuzu 11-13-2019 07:35 PM

I will say, it's SUPER convenient to be able to switch between OTA, recorded OTA, and various streaming things with 1 HDMI cable, 1 remote, 1 "menu" button. And like I said, you wanna start watching a show, let's say "The Good Place"? It'll not only setup automatic OTA recordings, it will find the old episodes wherever they are (Hulu, Amazon, whatever), and put them all together into a seamless package, so you can start from the beginning, catch up to today, then continue to watch as new shows get recorded weekly. The interface is what makes it so nice.

SpyderMike 11-14-2019 10:01 AM

Just installed one of these at a relative's and it works great:

https://www.channelmaster.com/

It has two tuners and a program guide. No subscription. It goes between the antenna and the TV. It does not suck up network bandwidth by distributing via wifi. You can record one or two different shows, or watch one and record another, or record two while watching any other TV input. The setup was real easy. We hooked up a 2TB drive to it. The picture was very clear and everything worked great.

I think it is a great deal for $149.

Paul_Heery 11-14-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SpyderMike (Post 10657347)
Just installed one of these at a relative's and it works great:

https://www.channelmaster.com/

It has two tuners and a program guide. No subscription. It goes between the antenna and the TV. It does not suck up network bandwidth by distributing via wifi. You can record one or two different shows, or watch one and record another, or record two while watching any other TV input. The setup was real easy. We hooked up a 2TB drive to it. The picture was very clear and everything worked great.

I think it is a great deal for $149.

This is an interesting device. Also, it will be on sale on Black Friday for $89.

cabmandone 11-15-2019 04:24 PM

Son of a B....! I get rid of AttTvNow and go to Hulu for 44.99 and now Hulu sends notification that their price is going up to 54.99!

Baz 11-15-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SpyderMike (Post 10657347)
Just installed one of these at a relative's and it works great:

https://www.channelmaster.com/

It has two tuners and a program guide. No subscription. It goes between the antenna and the TV. It does not suck up network bandwidth by distributing via wifi. You can record one or two different shows, or watch one and record another, or record two while watching any other TV input. The setup was real easy. We hooked up a 2TB drive to it. The picture was very clear and everything worked great.

I think it is a great deal for $149.

That's a fantastic site...thanks, Mike.

Definitely going to take advantage of their Black Friday sale!

rfuerst911sc 11-16-2019 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10658888)
Son of a B....! I get rid of AttTvNow and go to Hulu for 44.99 and now Hulu sends notification that their price is going up to 54.99!

Resistance is futile ........ you WILL be assimilated :D Let's face it any options we choose for home entertainment have a set fixed cost , then add all the taxes and BS and finally the vendors profit margin = what you pay . As internet continues to be more popular the streaming companies expand to cover the needs , that expansion costs $$$ . If conventional cable loses too much market share to streaming they just buyout a streaming company and bam they are back in business .

I have been a streamer for a while now , am I saving money over conventional cable yes I am . Is that savings as large as it use to be no it is not . For me and my wife it comes down to channel selection and right now for us Hulu live has everything we want/need at an affordable price . We are in the north GA. mountains with one ....... yes ONE internet provider which is DSL based . It is barely better than two Dixie cups and a string :rolleyes: that is where I hope to see some improvement .

In a perfect world we could all have a true ala carte menu available , you want 10 programs you pay for 10 . You want 120 you pay for 120 . And the pricing structure would allow cheap packages vs. expensive .

cabmandone 12-01-2019 12:01 PM

Giving Fubo TV a shot. The user interface is a bit clunky. The guide isn't in alphabetical order which seems weird to me. Fubo has the roughly the same channel options Hulu has. Hulu on demand wasn't that important to me since i have Netflix and Prime.

Hulu will be gone shortly. My daughter streams at her apartment and we stream at home. Hulu's only work around for streaming to two TV's on different networks is to get a chromecast and stream from your phone or tablet to the chromecast. Too much work for a service that will soon be charging $54/mo.

cabmandone 01-14-2020 03:30 AM

So I think I've officially used each of the "big" streaming services out there. AttTVNow, Sling, Fubo, Hulu and Youtube TV... Starting to wish I had kept AttTvNow.

Hulu has multi stream but only on the same network. If you want to stream from different networks you have to use the work around mentioned above.

Sling has multiple streams if you're an Orange + Blue subscriber BUT you only get one stream from Orange and three from Blue.

Fubo didn't offer ESPN and that's a no go for NCAA football fans.

Youtube didn't have History Channel and a few others that we typically watch.

I had no issues with Hulu or Fubo buffering. Streaming on different networks wasn't a problem with Fubo. Didn't get a chance to do two streams on different networks with Youtube. I've had a lot of buffering with Sling (100mbps service direct wired to tv) and At&T.

Bang for the buck... AT&T had them all beat even with the price increase but I did get a reduced rate for being an early subscriber.


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