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Rickysa 02-28-2017 12:36 PM

Going back to the moon!
 
SpaceX to take passengers around the moon....next year


Happy camper!SmileWavy


https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/feb/27/spacex-moon-private-mission-2018-elon-musk

GH85Carrera 02-28-2017 12:40 PM

Those guys have to be extreme risk lovers and very very wealthy.

Good luck to them.

aap1966 02-28-2017 12:41 PM

An excellent summary of Elon Musk and Space-X.

Elon Musk: The World's Raddest Man - Wait But Why

Rickysa 02-28-2017 12:48 PM

I didn't know about all the recent stuff (landing on a barge at sea, at night, in clouds, etc.) Pretty cool!

sammyg2 02-28-2017 03:34 PM

As long as I don't have to pay for it ..............

Evans, Marv 02-28-2017 03:41 PM

Amazing how the government took many years, huge organization & beaurocracy (sp.?), thousands of people, huge amounts of tax dollars, etc.,etc., and some private corporation comes in after a few years and announces going to the moon in a year.

KNS 02-28-2017 03:47 PM

If it's a success it will be spectacular.

If it fails it will be spectacularly grim.

KNS 02-28-2017 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv (Post 9492274)
Amazing how the government took many years, huge organization & beaurocracy (sp.?), thousands of people, huge amounts of tax dollars, etc.,etc., and some private corporation comes in after a few years and announces going to the moon in a year.

Those thousands of people paved the way and pioneered into uncharted territory. What a stupid comment.

The Russians probably spent just as much if not more in the same time period and failed to get to the moon (with a manned mission).

sc_rufctr 02-28-2017 04:32 PM

Great but what if something goes wrong? ... There is no viable rescue plan! (& good luck getting insurance company to cover this)
We are not technically ready for space tourism.

A professional astronaut who is aware for the risks is an entirely different situation.

KNS 02-28-2017 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9492347)
Great but what if something goes wrong? ... There is no viable rescue plan! (& good luck getting insurance company to cover this)
We are not technically ready for space tourism.

Musk has stated that the two space tourists have accepted the fact that it *might* be a one-way trip.

svandamme 03-01-2017 02:00 AM

all it takes is one of the underpayed factory workers to mis a couple of work instructions for the rocket, on a rough monday.

Assuming they all have several kids, that will split up the estate, it's safe to say they will drop out of the 0,1% and the entire top will average lower after that. SmileWavy

dewolf 03-01-2017 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv (Post 9492274)
Amazing how the government took many years, huge organization & beaurocracy (sp.?), thousands of people, huge amounts of tax dollars, etc.,etc., and some private corporation comes in after a few years and announces going to the moon in a year.

All the ground work has already been done.

GH85Carrera 03-01-2017 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv (Post 9492274)
Amazing how the government took many years, huge organization & beaurocracy (sp.?), thousands of people, huge amounts of tax dollars, etc.,etc., and some private corporation comes in after a few years and announces going to the moon in a year.

Huge difference is the time frame. Now days partly because of the NASA moon missions anyone can go buy a single smart phone with WAY more computing prowess than all of NASA had available in the 1960s. No one on the planet had any idea how to plot the trajectory to and from the moon. They had to invent that. All NASA had done was launch Alan Shepard into a sub orbital flight when Kennedy said we should go to the moon. We were not sure if humans could survive the time in space at all back then.

Also NASA landed on the moon and got every single Apollo astronaut back home safely.

The Russians gave it their best effort and never even sent a human into orbit around the moon.

Only 12 humans have ever orbited the moon.

911_Dude 03-01-2017 04:31 AM

Id give it a 50/50 chance of making it back alive. Ill nope on that. It will make for some great TV tho.

dad911 03-01-2017 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9492265)
As long as I don't have to pay for it ..............

Looks like we did..... Elon Musk's growing empire is fueled by $4.9 billion in government subsidies - LA Times

911_Dude 03-01-2017 04:49 AM

Musk is one of the few billionaires actually doing something worthwhile with tax breaks, etc. Hes got some serious long term goals that arent just to line his pockets. I say more power to him.

red-beard 03-01-2017 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9492347)
Great but what if something goes wrong? ... There is no viable rescue plan! (& good luck getting insurance company to cover this)
We are not technically ready for space tourism.

A professional astronaut who is aware for the risks is an entirely different situation.

They are not doing a TLI (trans lunar injection), but will simply be doing a flyby. I expect this is to save fuel, since they will be just make the orbit a large ellipse without entering Lunar Orbit.

The red is what they will do vs. a real TLI which is the continuation of the black line around the moon.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488386162.jpg

sammyg2 03-01-2017 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911_Dude (Post 9492786)
Musk is one of the few billionaires actually doing something worthwhile with tax breaks, etc. Hes got some serious long term goals that arent just to line his pockets. I say more power to him.

You can be as generous as you want to be WITH YOUR MONEY.
But not with mine.

Musk is a con-man and is getting richer off of us.

Fast Freddy 944 03-01-2017 08:02 AM

Yeup, a very low tech way of space travel, lets see, waste money on social bunk, check, shuttle craft disappears check, going back to Apollo style of capsule very low tech and out of date check.
Wake me up from snoozing when we have cool stuff like this!:cool:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488387190.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488387238.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488387651.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488387722.jpg;):D

red-beard 03-01-2017 08:31 AM

I'm working on it. Patent is in progress.

Energy - it is all about the energy!


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