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JoshCole1122 03-06-2017 07:20 AM

4 post lift!! Finally!! Install thread
 
Well finally made a lift purchase. Plan is porsche on top and trans am on bottom. Primarilyfor storage purposes but also maintenance as well. I thought I would post a thread to share my journey.
Last night I raised my garage door up for needed clearance for the front of the Porsche to tuck under it while door is open. Easy modification of the railway took care of this. Made 3 relief cuts on both sides and bent and welded to achieve the desired angle for more clearance.
Had to ad half turn to tension springs a little more and the door was balanced.
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911boost 03-06-2017 08:02 AM

I had more straight actions added to bring it closer to the ceiling in order to retain the original bend......

JoshCole1122 03-06-2017 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BSiple (Post 9499678)
I had more straight actions added to bring it closer to the ceiling in order to retain the original bend......

I could have done that but then would have had to raise my spring and get longer cables. That would have been the more ideal way to do it though!

Don Plumley 03-06-2017 08:31 AM

What lift did you buy? I'm about to pull the trigger on a BendPak 4 post.

JoshCole1122 03-06-2017 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Plumley (Post 9499723)
What lift did you buy? I'm about to pull the trigger on a BendPak 4 post.



"Auto lift" 8000 lbs. capacity. Included jack tray, drip pans, casters, and ramps.


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Neilk 03-06-2017 10:22 AM

I will be looking at buying one too in the next 6-9 months.

One thing I need to remember is to verify distance between ramps so I can drop the engine through the ramps., or rather lift the car off the engine.

JoshCole1122 03-06-2017 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 9499937)
I will be looking at buying one too in the next 6-9 months.

One thing I need to remember is to verify distance between ramps so I can drop the engine through the ramps., or rather lift the car off the engine.

There are ways to do it, I've searched. Jack tray provides options as well.

froggert 03-06-2017 12:02 PM

Dropping between the ramps is easiest, but you could back the car all the way to the end and pull the engine and trans out over the crossbeam or drop them a little bit, unbolt the trans, rotate the engine 90 degrees and then lower between the ramps.

pete3799 03-06-2017 12:10 PM

I'm planning on a 4 poster as well. Would rather have a two post but trying to anchor it in my radiant heated floor poses a problem. Wish I had mapped out my Pex tubing before the floor was poured. I'm not feeling lucky.
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MBAtarga 03-06-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Plumley (Post 9499723)
What lift did you buy? I'm about to pull the trigger on a BendPak 4 post.

Check out the group buy thread on Garage Journal if you haven't. You can request a quote from a user there that is affiliated with the company or dealer (dont' recall which.)

Scott Douglas 03-06-2017 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pete3799 (Post 9500152)
I'm planning on a 4 poster as well. Would rather have a two post but trying to anchor it in my radiant heated floor poses a problem. Wish I had mapped out my Pex tubing before the floor was poured. I'm not feeling lucky.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488830994.jpg

Hey Pete, you've got a pretty good idea of where your tubing is based on that picture. Just find out what size the grid work is that it's laying on (rebar mesh?) and count the squares.

dad911 03-06-2017 07:37 PM

^^ Run hot water through the lines, and an IR camera. I'd think even a gun type IR thermometer can find the hot spots.

stevej37 03-06-2017 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshCole1122 (Post 9499734)
"Auto lift" 8000 lbs. capacity. Included jack tray, drip pans, casters, and ramps.


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I have the same lift...you will really like it.
If your floor is smooth, you can actually move the lift around with a car on it.
Casters on..raise car just until the casters pivot the lift up...the whole thing can be pushed around by one person.

Don Plumley 03-06-2017 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 9500213)
Check out the group buy thread on Garage Journal if you haven't. You can request a quote from a user there that is affiliated with the company or dealer (dont' recall which.)

Can't find that thread, can you share a link? Thanks!

JoshCole1122 03-07-2017 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 9500826)
I have the same lift...you will really like it.
If your floor is smooth, you can actually move the lift around with a car on it.
Casters on..raise car just until the casters pivot the lift up...the whole thing can be pushed around by one person.

Awesome! I'm excited, lift should arrive this Thursda.y.

MBAtarga 03-07-2017 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Plumley (Post 9500835)
Can't find that thread, can you share a link? Thanks!

BendPak 4 Post / 2 Post Lift Group Buy - The Garage Journal Board

PM userid Mystic195

Don Plumley 03-07-2017 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 9501030)

Thanks!

I made the mistake of doing a search on lift recommendations last night. Every time I do, I end up more confused than when I started. Almost as bad as, "What oil should I use?"

speedster911 03-07-2017 10:10 AM

Josh,

How tall are your ceilings?

about to pull the trigger - Anyone have experience with a Directlift?

Any experience good or bad on american made vs. overseas?

JoshCole1122 03-07-2017 11:18 AM

Yes it is very confusing finding the right lift. You have to take everything in consideration. My ceilings are only 9' 7" tall. Trans am and Porsche stacked. Both those cars roughly 50-52" tall. Rams are 4 in thick. Need to determine locking positions etc. measure about 100 times.


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stevej37 03-07-2017 11:40 AM

You will have no prob with that height. My ceiling is about 3" taller (9' 10) and have that much or more to spare with both cars stacked.
The first time you raise the top car to the ceiling..mark the lift post so that you don't go over that ever! The locks will require that you go beyond the height you want by an inch or so.

JoshCole1122 03-07-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 9501528)
You will have no prob with that height. My ceiling is about 3" taller (9' 10) and have that much or more to spare with both cars stacked.
The first time you raise the top car to the ceiling..mark the lift post so that you don't go over that ever! The locks will require that you go beyond the height you want by an inch or so.



Awesome. Another helpful tip! I'll be making that mark very visible!


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gduke2010 03-07-2017 06:46 PM

Nice job, money will be saved doing your own maintenance and it's a bit scary putting a 911 on 4 jack stands.

My garage floor has a lot of slope, like over 4" in 20'. Want to get a lift now that I'm picking up another car next week end. Wondering if I can lift the low end with spacers and have ramp extensions custom made?

gduke2010 03-07-2017 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 9500408)
Hey Pete, you've got a pretty good idea of where your tubing is based on that picture. Just find out what size the grid work is that it's laying on (rebar mesh?) and count the squares.

I borrowed an inferred camera from a plumber to drill into a slab with hydronic heat tubes.

froggert 03-08-2017 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by speedster911 (Post 9501402)
about to pull the trigger - Anyone have experience with a Directlift?

Any experience good or bad on american made vs. overseas?

I've had a Directlift Pro Park 8s for a few years now. Works well. It was cheaper than the Bendpak and doesn't require air for the safety locks. Rolling jack isn't as fancy. ALI certification. I'd buy one again.

JoshCole1122 03-10-2017 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by froggert (Post 9502517)
I've had a Directlift Pro Park 8s for a few years now. Works well. It was cheaper than the Bendpak and doesn't require air for the safety locks. Rolling jack isn't as fancy. ALI certification. I'd buy one again.

good to know

fintstone 03-11-2017 09:09 AM

I would love to put in a 4-post...maybe two of them. It seems to me that the hardest part is unloading the stupid thing from the truck as all seem to require you have a forklift on site. I have never had that requirement when ordering anything else.

You would think that there would be enough market for these that you could just call someone, tell them what you want and they would show up and install it like HVAC or anything else.

stevej37 03-11-2017 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 9507011)
I would love to put in a 4-post...maybe two of them. It seems to me that the hardest part is unloading the stupid thing from the truck as all seem to require you have a forklift on site. I have never had that requirement when ordering anything else.

You would think that there would be enough market for these that you could just call someone, tell them what you want and they would show up and install it like HVAC or anything else.


If you know a business owner with a fork lift, have it del there and park a utility trailer to have them unload onto it. When getting it home, the whole thing can be unloaded one piece at a time with a friend by hand. Don't forget the box of donuts for the business! :)

fintstone 03-11-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 9507049)
If you know a business owner with a fork lift, have it del there and park a utility trailer to have them unload onto it. When getting it home, the whole thing can be unloaded one piece at a time with a friend by hand. Don't forget the box of donuts for the business! :)

Good suggestion...but I don't know anyone. It seem these guys are missing a pretty good market. It seems that all one would need to do is buy a forklift and box truck and start a business installing these things in suburban and rural areas.

speedster911 03-11-2017 09:55 PM

Most sellers have companys that will deliver and setup. Looking at Directlift- I think they quoted me 125 to deliver + 600 for install.

Shee trocking my new garage- hope to have lift installed in a few months

froggert 03-14-2017 08:49 AM

You could also pick up from the freight depot with an open trailer. Or there are companies that will deliver and assemble the lift for a fee. I did it by myself with an engine hoist but would not recommend that for anyone else. LOL.

stevej37 03-14-2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by froggert (Post 9510683)
I did it by myself with an engine hoist but would not recommend that for anyone else. LOL.

Same here...except used a cable winch hooked to the exposed trusses.
After getting it home on my trailer...I was the only one to touch it until fully assembled.
It's not that hard to do...the worst part was the linkage for the stops.

fintstone 03-14-2017 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by froggert (Post 9510683)
You could also pick up from the freight depot with an open trailer. Or there are companies that will deliver and assemble the lift for a fee. I did it by myself with an engine hoist but would not recommend that for anyone else. LOL.

This is what I would like to do...but not much luck finding someone.

JoshCole1122 03-14-2017 12:56 PM

Got the lift in the garage. Time for assembly. Step by step with this stuff. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...633803ad97.jpg


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stevej37 03-14-2017 01:02 PM

Great start!
Hook the cable to the ram and flip em over!
Keep the pics coming!

gordner 03-14-2017 02:09 PM

I put in an Atlas 2 post in my garage solo, using an engine crane. It was actually a lot easier than I had anticipated.

froggert 03-15-2017 08:04 AM

If the instructions say to stand the uprights vertical then lift the crossbeams over them, ignore that. Lay them horizontal, slide the crossbeams down, then lift the whole end assembly.

JoshCole1122 03-15-2017 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by froggert (Post 9512046)
If the instructions say to stand the uprights vertical then lift the crossbeams over them, ignore that. Lay them horizontal, slide the crossbeams down, then lift the whole end assembly.



Yep I was planning on doing it horizontal. Trying to figure out if I should install cables prior to assembling posts and runways or just feed them afterwards.


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JoshCole1122 04-03-2017 05:13 AM

Finished the install this weekend. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d6b50fee3b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...345266c90d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e9959dad93.jpg


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Scott Douglas 04-03-2017 12:17 PM

That looks a lot like the lift my brother has at his place.

Looking good!
I'd be painting a signal orange stripe on the posts for the max height allowed marking. Looks kind of tight up top there.

speedster911 04-03-2017 12:43 PM

What brand lift did you get?

Thanks


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