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Huracan beats the 918 on the ring

But I'm thinking these aren't street tires.

He's still got ones of steel though


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Technically it says they are "road" tires but not sure how R compounds are: Pirelli Trofeo R tires.
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not really surprising that a purebreed piston engine is faster than a hybrid.
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not really surprising that a purebreed piston engine is faster than a hybrid.
Tesla ludicrous mode???
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Tesla ludicrous mode???
the power to weight ratio is SO much better with pistons than with batteries.
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What tires does the 918 run? Mich Pilot Sport Cup or something like that?

You would expect a lighter pure combustion vehicle to be faster, but these days, it's ofter the added torque and traction of the awd hybrids that's kicking butt on race courses.
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Wow, it all sure comes at you quickly at that pace!
The driver seemed so smooth, almost relaxed.
Cool

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Tesla ludicrous mode???
Yes, it is faster off the line than most vehicles. It also depletes its full battery charge in seconds when you do that.

My car is fast, but not as fast as a Tesla. I can sprint off the line, then drive it to Chicago and back. The Tesla owner can sprint off the line, charge for a few hours, drive to Chicago (and possibly have to top off on the way), charge for a few hours when they get their, and drive back (and possibly have to top off on the way back).
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That's fast for a street car but it's still 40+ seconds slower than Stefan Bellof achieved in a 956 almost 35 years ago...

There's probably video of it somewhere. Also a video of Derek Bell in a similar car, with commentary.

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"He's still got ones of steel though"
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That got MY attention. Impressive. Whew!!!
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956 story/Derek Bell video-by chance this was in my facebook feed yesterday-http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/news/a32791/nurburgring-record-stefan-belof-porsche-956/
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Was reading a thread over on Rennlist. The Trofeo R beats the Pilot Sport Cup 2 like "day and nignt" on one member's GT3.
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956 story/Derek Bell video-by chance this was in my facebook feed yesterday Why a Nurburgring Record Set in 1983 Will Never Be Beaten
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Tesla ludicrous mode???
Oh puh-leez. Are you so enamored of Elon that you think that's anywhere near this ballpark? A Tesla has yet to even finish a lap at Laguna Seca- even when Car & Driver tried icing the batteries. It couldn't lap Nurburgring at anywhere near the speed of a Prius or an old Ford pickup. Let alone virtually any new car that costs tens of thousands less.

And after the Tesla hit's 60 it's a dead duck. The Malibu is pulling away. And after three attempts at ludicrous mode the Tesla driver is....ahem.... walking home.
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Oh puh-leez. Are you so enamored of Elon that you think that's anywhere near this ballpark? A Tesla has yet to even finish a lap at Laguna Seca- even when Car & Driver tried icing the batteries. It couldn't lap Nurburgring at anywhere near the speed of a Prius or an old Ford pickup. Let alone virtually any new car that costs tens of thousands less.

And after the Tesla hit's 60 it's a dead duck. The Malibu is pulling away. And after three attempts at ludicrous mode the Tesla driver is....ahem.... walking home.
Uhhhhh nop, I'm not.

I just don't think because the 918 incorporates electric technology will necessarily make it slower than a purely piston driven car.

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Oh puh-leez. Are you so enamored of Elon that you think that's anywhere near this ballpark? A Tesla has yet to even finish a lap at Laguna Seca- even when Car & Driver tried icing the batteries.
And if that isn't the biggest load of BS I've ever read...

http://www.refuelraces.com/sportelectrictt2014 dot php

Or google Tesla Laguna Seca Youtube and watch a run for yourself
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Hmm...

Did Lamborghini Fake Its Record-Breaking Nürburgring Lap Time?
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That's fast for a street car but it's still 40+ seconds slower than Stefan Bellof achieved in a 956 almost 35 years ago...
And the track was slightly different back then..
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JD whatever you're trying to post isn't there. But here's something for you regarding it's attempt to lap Nurburgring:

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“Yes, it was heavy. Yes, it had almost no mechanical grip. And yes, the steering was as numb as my jaw after a trip to the dentist.”

Not exactly a glowing assessment of the Model S’s driving dynamics.

As for the loss of power 3 minutes in, the same problem occurred on Motor Trends test at Mazda Speedway earlier this year.
As Expected, Tesla Model S Fails To Lap Nurburgring Under Full Power

As I said not even in the same ballpark.

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