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Whether his ploy is effective remains to be seen. I am quite certain his estate will still be subject to litigation.


He did not have to be. He just had to listen to his attorney.

His motivation may not have been so much to help his daughter, as to screw his victim's families a little more.

Bible verse stuff is a red herring.
Do you even listen to your self....Hey I am going to OFF Myself because I want to screw my victims family...Yeah they hate you so much that they want to see you dead. That is like cutting off your head to spite your face.

What does money mean to you when you are facing the next 50 years in a 6 X 8 cell in Gladiator school. Money only means you can pay an attorney, and I will bet he had big attorney bills which probably ate through a chunk of his dinero. Maybe he didn't have much left? You don't think about family, you think you spend whatever it takes to get out of jail and be free.

He had one conviction over turned, and quite possibly was facing retrial, and had another with life WITHOUT PAROLE staring him in the face. That means NO WAY OUT...NO HOPE.

Which goes to wht he had written on his forehead when found..."John 3:16"

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.


Which means if you believe in Jesus the next world will be better than the one you are living in.
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Number one, he waited until after the verdict to off himself. So much for that theory.

Number dos, civil suits for wrongful death do not depend on a criminal conviction. You may have heard about another NFL player in similar straights, what was his name...oh, yeah, OJ Simpson.

His victims' families still can, and will, sue his estate into the ground.

Other than that, you got it mostly right.
You are subscribing altruistic motives to a guy who was shirking responsibility/paying for his crimes by offing himself?

How noble of you to kill yourself for your wife and kid..so that they can eat steak everyday for the rest of their lives, while you become worm food. Somehow being noble is a contradiction in terms for someone who was convicted of MURDER BY EXECUTION.

With John 3:16 on his forehead it is really clear that he wanted out from the problems he was facing in this life. He couldn't face going on to the bleak future that was in store from him. From the heights to the depths is how far he had fallen. He was a wild animal in a trap with only the captivity of the zoo to look forward to.

This whole episode is a real downer, it does nothing to cheer one up to face ones own existential self. It causes nothing but grief to even hear about it. The only reason I comment is that the commentary on this Board, is so rudimentary and ill thought out..
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"as to screw his victim's families a little more."


I am not the one who wrote ^^^^ this. This belies your sagacity and credibility.

You presumably have better than average intelligence and are reasonably well educated...yet....what does this ^^^ have to say about yourself?

I am shocked, incredulously shocked I tell you.
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Another wrinkle appears in this case.

Hernandez's attorney says he will likely file the paperwork to get the conviction erased in accordance with Massachusetts law. If it is erased, and he was technically never found guilty, the Patriots may be on the hook for nearly $6 million Hernandez was owed on his contract since his arrest. His estate would probably sue for that money, and, of course, any civil litigation against the estate would be interested in it as well.

Field day for lawyers.
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You are subscribing altruistic motives to a guy who was shirking responsibility/paying for his crimes by offing himself?

How noble of you to kill yourself for your wife and kid..so that they can eat steak everyday for the rest of their lives, while you become worm food. Somehow being noble is a contradiction in terms for someone who was convicted of MURDER BY EXECUTION.

With John 3:16 on his forehead it is really clear that he wanted out from the problems he was facing in this life. He couldn't face going on to the bleak future that was in store from him. From the heights to the depths is how far he had fallen. He was a wild animal in a trap with only the captivity of the zoo to look forward to.

This whole episode is a real downer, it does nothing to cheer one up to face ones own existential self. It causes nothing but grief to even hear about it. The only reason I comment is that the commentary on this Board, is so rudimentary and ill thought out..
Ah, no. I was just disputing the argument that he offed himself for some financial strategy related to his family, etc. That is a bone-headed theory born of extreme ignorance of the law.

How you could get "altruistic" out of my post speaks to the lack of reading comprehension found here and could actually explain a lot of the stupid arguments that leave me scratching my head.
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Another wrinkle appears in this case.

Hernandez's attorney says he will likely file the paperwork to get the conviction erased in accordance with Massachusetts law. If it is erased, and he was technically never found guilty, the Patriots may be on the hook for nearly $6 million Hernandez was owed on his contract since his arrest. His estate would probably sue for that money, and, of course, any civil litigation against the estate would be interested in it as well.

Field day for lawyers.
Yes, the lawyers will win this one. BTW, there is a way to not let the lawyers win your life; don't be a criminal and don't do things that you can get your ass sued off for.

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AND....there OFFF!!!!

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/04/22/family-of-aaron-hernandez-s-victim-asks-patriots-to-pay-in-wrong/22050659/

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BTW, there is a way to not let the lawyers win your life; don't be a criminal and don't do things that you can get your ass sued off for.

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Not true. Plenty of products are more expensive or discontinued because of frivolous lawsuits.
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This is not true. His death does nothing to prevent the civil lawsuits against him. They just transfer to his estate.

Also, he committed suicide because he was freaking nuts. There is no ultiorior motive. Turns out he was a closeted gay and the murder he was convicted of was probably motivated by his fear of being outed. The victim knew he kept a gay lover since high school and Hernandez was afraid he was going to tell his fiancé. Hernandez left three suicide notes, one to his fiancé, one to his daughter, and one to his gay lover in prison. I don't think he was in control of himself since the day he was born. He was in such mental pain his whole life he finally ended it.

Finally, Speeder is about 95% right. If you don't commit crimes and don't manufacture defective products, your exposure to the legal system is pretty minimal. Things happen and we all
Make mistakes and there are frivolous litigators, so just being virtuous is not complete protection. But for all of those uncontrollable risks there is insuramce.
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A-Ron likes it up the A-Hole.....

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/04/22/report-aaron-hernandez-s-sexuality-may-have-been-possible-motiv/22051036/

Not that there is anything wrong with that....

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