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john70t 05-23-2017 08:08 AM

Photographer friend with a lumens meter?
That would qualify "too bright".

A couple smaller lights for them would be more efficient than a single sun.

vash 05-23-2017 08:37 AM

i would never shoot anything at a neighbor's house.

LakeCleElum 05-23-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 9598319)
i would never shoot anything at a neighbor's house.

Satire | Define Satire at Dictionary.com

Hugh R 05-23-2017 09:40 AM

20 years ago someone moved in a house down the street, gated community of 25 homes, no street lights. He put a light over his garage door that shown out on to the street, I swear it must have been a carbon arc lamp. After about four days of complaining, I was the HOA president, and went and spoke to him and explained it was a pretty friendly community and we watch out for each other, for example I did a map of the neighborhood showing where everyone's water, gas and electrical shutoffs were located in case of fire, earthquake, etc.

He took it down pretty quick after that.

vash 05-23-2017 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeCleElum (Post 9598344)

i'd venture a guess that many projectiles have been sent at people's homes. hell, my house in Texas had the light shot out.

satire for the sane law abiding side of the population..for the rest, not so much.

masraum 05-23-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9596754)


I guess he's not living in a sand castle so this wouldn't work.

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Bob Kontak 05-23-2017 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 9598763)
i'd venture a guess that many projectiles have been sent at people's homes. hell, my house in Texas had the light shot out.

satire for the sane law abiding side of the population..for the rest, not so much.

You turned me on to the 22 LR sub-sonic rounds maybe 6 years ago. They are quieter (I think) than the GAMO. They penetrate something like 2 1/4 Panorama's when tested in my basement.

As wimpy as they are, shooting at a home is not conceivable.

Walk over with a ball peen. Wear a face shield. Bust and run.

Jail time would be much less.

fred cook 05-23-2017 04:31 PM

Wait for the neighbors to go off somewhere and re-aim the light to shine down into his yard instead of across the street. I bet he would never notice the change! Good luck.

masraum 05-23-2017 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9598878)
You turned me on to the 22 LR sub-sonic rounds maybe 6 years ago. They are quieter (I think) than the GAMO. They penetrate something like 2 1/4 Panorama's when tested in my basement.

As wimpy as they are, shooting at a home is not conceivable.

Walk over with a ball peen. Wear a face shield. Bust and run.

Jail time would be much less.

Yeah, shooting out lights is a fantasy (kind of like mounting bottle rockets in the grill of your commuter to get the attention of the left lane bandits, or being able to roll BB's out of the bottom rear of your car for tailgaters or a 3' long train horn on a turret for oblivious drivers and bikers with "loud pipes"). But some fantasies are better as fantasy than reality.

unclebilly 05-23-2017 08:13 PM

City people 'problems' make me smile...

RKDinOKC 05-23-2017 08:48 PM

If going to do something...

Put up a light or lights with it/them mounted and adjusted so they light only your yard/property, AND DO NOT light the offending neighbor's yard/property. Then kindly offer to adjust the offending neighbors lights using yours as examples. Be sure to talk to them at night so you can show the difference.

Only if the neighbor then refuses to do anything about the light or let you...Refit your lights with the highest candle power available and aim directly at the offending neighbors windows. That way the neighbor knows you could adjust your lights so as not to offend them and are specifically targeting them because they do not have and consideration of you.

Otherwise the neighbor might just think you are putting lights up like they did and think nothing about it.

john70t 05-23-2017 09:21 PM

How many liters of blood have been shed throughout history because two men refused to communicate?
Go over and talk to the gent. Simple situation.
If the hackles go up, give it some time and approach a different way.
Divert a river and let it do the digging for you.

RKDinOKC 05-23-2017 09:29 PM

Tactical Nuclear Weapons!

Heel n Toe 05-23-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 9599188)
Go over and talk to the gent. Simple situation.

He did. It's in his OP.



Hey Baz... do they wait until they're both home and in the house before they turn that thing on?

I bet they do. Otherwise, it would be slamming them in the face as they pull into their driveway.

I guess they could use their sunvisors to mitigate that if it was already on, however. :D

red-beard 05-24-2017 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IROC (Post 9596480)

Apparently screaming isn't the only form of communication in Australia. Sarcasm seems to be quite popular.

stevej37 05-24-2017 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fred cook (Post 9598920)
Wait for the neighbors to go off somewhere and re-aim the light to shine down into his yard instead of across the street. I bet he would never notice the change! Good luck.

I like this suggestion. Be subtle about the amt of change..if it works..do a little more after a couple months.
Aiming the light might have never entered his mind when he put it up.

mgatepi 05-24-2017 04:24 AM

I believe a lot of people are totally unconscious of their surroundings. He simply doesn't know or even understand what he has done. I have a couple of neighbors like this, one has an ATV for which the taillight assembly fell off in front of my yard, I sat the taillight by his mailbox for him to retrieve and replace......the taillight sat there for 6 weeks......I eventually went over and picked it up and put it in his trash. Clueless.....

masraum 05-24-2017 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 9599188)
How many liters of blood have been shed throughout history because two men refused to communicate?
Go over and talk to the gent. Simple situation.
If the hackles go up, give it some time and approach a different way.
Divert a river and let it do the digging for you.

There have been lots of similar comments. I'm guessing that lots of folks aren't reading the original post...

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I waited for the right opportunity to mention to the husband that their new flood light was blinding me and thus very annoying and asked if he could try to adjust it so it doesn't blind me. The wife is prone to emotional hysteria so wanted to talk to only the husband.

They are both smokers and drinkers so we're not dealing with the most practical of human beings.

Just took these photos a few minutes ago. Doesn't look like anything has changed since our conversation a few days ago.

vash 05-24-2017 06:03 AM

on a side note. my brother's SWAT team has a sniper silenced .22..the sole purpose of that rifle is to shoot out lights when they sneak up to a perps house for the dark-thirty wake up call. i think he meant street lights..i'm gonna ask if they shoot out private lights..

that thing was surgical accurate and giddy fun..i wanted to steal it.

john70t 05-24-2017 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 9599352)
There have been lots of similar comments. I'm guessing that lots of folks aren't reading the original post...

I missed most of what the first post implied. Or not?

"Doesn't look like anything has changed since our conversation a few days ago." was the crux of the conversation. It specifies that he spoke with the husband, and afterwards there was no action taken. But there was also specific language identifying that that the neighbors were also porch monkeys infected by (an especially virulent strand of)southernbumblefk Idontgiveadamnitis, well marinated in a stew of inexpensive chemical beverages, along with one of the parties being vulnerable to random emotional outbursts from simple conversation.
-Perhaps "Go over and talk to the gent." applies in such a case.
The guy didn't get it the first time.
-Perhaps there were extenuating circumstances on his part involved while the conversation took place.
-So before taking the communal consensus advice of flamethrowers and radar aimed miniguns, talking to [him][sober] was a valid suggestion.

As noted above, nothing had changed quickly, as is common and commonly accepted in some parts of the world.

"If the hackles go up, give it some time and approach a different way.
Divert a river and let it do the digging for you."

implies the OP should talk to the wife if all else fails with the husband. But never before. The wife will be the mitigating factor ultimately. But going through a well-oiled chain of command procedures will give the OP recognition of doing the right thing for whatever that is worth in the future with his neighbor.

ted 05-24-2017 01:14 PM

Will he let you put a small shade on it to kill the glare globe view from your house?
Just test it for a couple nights, it should not change the light pattern on his property.
Piece of 4 inch wide tin/light deflector you could bend to fit the light pastern you both want.

Have the same thing a misdirected light source across the canyon.
In the fog the light pattern is adjusted more like an aircraft landing light. :)

Baz 05-31-2017 04:23 AM

Thanks again for all suggestions and comments.

I have had short interactions with my neighbor since asking about his light but no response or followup from him other than the usual " How's it going?" that neighbors say to each other.

Not surprising - don't want to get into a long diatribe but we've been neighbors for 21 years come July and I pretty much know their personalities and I have done as much as I can do wrt talking so I will now be moving forward with my own security lighting.

I took the light I bought from HD back because it wasn't what I expected once I took it out of the box. Yesterday I received 2 of these that I picked up on eBay that are more what I was looking for. Going to do the install later today.

I don't expect there to be any fireworks between the neighbors and I. If something is said to me about my lights, I will adjust...but I doubt anything will be said. I feel that the ball was in their court and they didn't make the shot so what ever happens is on them.

Again, the lights I am installing is not payback - they are so I can see better, given the distracting spotlight coming my way form across the street.

Will followup after install with more pics....

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masraum 05-31-2017 09:39 AM

and there you have it.

It's too bad you couldn't pay your electrician buddy to go back to them and make up some sort of excuse (I need to check the fuse) or something to get up and adjust the lights.

stomachmonkey 05-31-2017 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 9607688)
......

Again, the lights I am installing is not payback - they are so I can see better, given the distracting spotlight coming my way form across the street.

......

And the neighbor will know that and not think any differently so no risk of escalating a situation you are trying to avoid escalating?

Por_sha911 05-31-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 9607688)
Again, the lights I am installing is not payback - they are so I can see better, given the distracting spotlight coming my way form across the street.

Not that you care what I think but the above phrase isn't very believable. Looks like retribution and your statement sounds like plausible deniability.

Baz 05-31-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 9608149)
and there you have it.

It's too bad you couldn't pay your electrician buddy to go back to them and make up some sort of excuse (I need to check the fuse) or something to get up and adjust the lights.

Good idea but once I discussed the situation with neighbor....cat was out of the bag. In fact - once I brought my concern to his attention - my options became very limited, if I want to maintain civility - which I do.


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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 9608267)
And the neighbor will know that and not think any differently so no risk of escalating a situation you are trying to avoid escalating?

Correct. "Hey Alex.....how do you like my new security lights? I have to hand it to you...great idea! Now we can both sleep better at night with our combined illumination efforts!"

"Oh and by the way....please let me know if they are shining too brightly in your direction. Be happy to attempt adjustment."


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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 9608541)
Not that you care what I think but the above phrase isn't very believable. Looks like retribution and your statement sounds like plausible deniability.

I agree.

And I DO care what you think, Joe. I really do! :)

Will be going out soon to do the install...perfect night for it....:cool:

Baz 05-31-2017 02:35 PM

BTW....I have had twin security lights on both front corners of my garage for years.....traditional halogen flood lamps...both sets pointed sideways

All I am doing is upgrading to LED versions....and tweaking the direction they will be pointing....

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Don Ro 05-31-2017 02:35 PM

Baz,
I'm too lazy today to read the first 3 pages of this...but have you politely asked your neighbor to make some lighting adjustment so that their lights don't intrude upon your life?
I mean have you said something to them like: "Your yard lights are impacting my experience of being your good neighbor. Might I suggest an adjustment that we both can live with?"
.
Or some such statement and request?

Baz 05-31-2017 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Ro (Post 9608574)
Baz,
I'm too lazy today to read the first 3 pages of this...but have you politely asked your neighbor to make some lighting adjustment so that their lights don't intrude upon your life?
I mean have you said something to them like: "Your yard lights are impacting my experience of being your good neighbor. Might I suggest an adjustment that we both can live with?"
.
Or some such statement and request?


Hey Don....all you have to do is read my first post and you'll have your answer.

Thanks! SmileWavy

Don Ro 05-31-2017 02:46 PM

OK, I did.
.
"I waited for the right opportunity to mention to the husband that their new flood light was blinding me and thus very annoying and asked if he could try to adjust it so it doesn't blind me."
.
So when you asked him what was his response? What did he say to you?

KFC911 05-31-2017 02:58 PM

Baz, I hope your neighbor doesn't have a VERY accurate Diana air rifle like I have.

Were you shooting at my house?

Naw...I didn't hit your house :)

Baz 05-31-2017 03:48 PM

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Neck ties, contracts, high voltage
(Done dirt cheap)


;)

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Baz 05-31-2017 05:12 PM

They don't seem all that bright......maybe I should upgrade....again......

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pavulon 05-31-2017 05:39 PM

In the still of the night, I bet you can hear the sound of German bombers approaching from just behind his house!

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Baz 05-31-2017 05:41 PM

Ha ha.... :)

stevej37 05-31-2017 05:56 PM

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WPOZZZ 05-31-2017 06:26 PM

I was thinking something like this.

http://thevillager.com/wp-content/up...013/05/105.jpg

Por_sha911 05-31-2017 06:37 PM

Its a good thing that Baz and his neighbor aren't in control of nuclear weapons. We'd have to broker a SALT treaty.

1990C4S 06-01-2017 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 9608855)
I was thinking something like this.

http://thevillager.com/wp-content/up...013/05/105.jpg

And when he complains the sound of the diesel will drowned him out....

ted 06-01-2017 05:26 AM

Nice flood lights.
I prefer them motion controlled so I know when something is in my driveway.
They do lack ambiance.

For all night illumination I prefer these low voltage LED lights.
http://www.mainlandmart.com/ledmart.html


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