I can't believe people think the seller did anything wrong. He called the potential buyer but he didn't answer...on to the next man with cash. Selling stuff sucks enough as it is and flakey buyers are everywhere, he's a stand up guy for making the initial effort.

From what I gathered the seller may have had the unit up for sale elsewhere, with those ads come other implied obligations to act appropriately. Is he supposed to deny sale to a buyer responding to his ad until he hears back from a potential buyer that posted a wanted ad (but didn't answer his phone call)? How long should he deny sale to the first party? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, seems too simple to me.

I want to sell, and the first contact shows up with $ and its sold. end of story. You have no rights at all.

Wrong one both fronts...

He didn't call me, he posted his number and asked me to call, which I did 40 minutes later (I waited until 7:00 AM his time). Some dick called first and he assumed this guy was me. The deal was done before I called.

The unit was not listed for sale anywhere else.

So yes, potential dick move by the guy that stepped in on your ad then. Seller is still clean in my book.

No grudge against seller but if I'm seller I'd like to think I'll say 'let me talk to other guy first and I'll give you second shot if deal not made'.

The real dick is the guy who butted in.


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Seems we are missing some details here.

In your original post it says you posted a wanted ad. And that the seller sent you an email letting you know he had what you wanted and to call him. When you chose to call back the item was sold.

It does not sound like any exchange happened to make any sort of agreement one way or the other. If he just sent an email saying it had one and to call. How does he know you are interested in his item. You call the number and it is already sold. Well, tough noogies, you missed it.

If however, you exchanged a couple of emails with some sort of sales agreement that BOTH of you let each other know they agreed to then the seller is a giant nonfunctional male sex organ.

It seems that you think you were owed something for being the first to respond, but yet, you just left a message ? Unless you actually talked to the guy, made a deal, and set up a time to pick the item up, then it is still "first come first serve".

You guys are missing the point.

It's not the seller he has a beef with.

It's the guy who jumped onto Billys ad.

Unclebilly posted an

"I want to buy xxx ad"

Someone with what UB was looking for replied to his ad with

"I have that, here's my number, call me"

Some 3rd person saw UB's ad and the sellers reply with phone number then called and bought the part.

3rd person would never have known that seller had the part unless UB posted his WTB.

Guy who bought the unit is a Dick.

Yep. What he said.

+1
but ultimately and more importantly this:

You have a 930. They have a transponder. You won. Move on. ;)

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OK, what if there are two or more "wanted" ads seeking the same thing?
Do you reply to one, wait, then reply to the next, or do you reply to each ad and whoever calls you back first wins? Not saying that's what happened, but it could happen.

I have 2 930s...

A lot of time and energy expended on this post would have surely been better spent sourcing another transponder

There's no sale till somebody got payed.

In this case there wasn't even an agreement to sell.
At best there was an attempt and you weree to slow.


Why would you even ask if the other guy did a dick move, trying to call the other one a dick because you were slow , is on it's own a dick move

Brain damage much?

What amazes me about this thread is that very few people actually understand what he said to begin with. Most of you clowns are arguing a different set of facts then what he presented. Pointless...

For the record, yes, it was a dick move.

Maybe when the OP meets this clown again, he'll whack him upside the head, and we will all get to hear about it.

Until then, maybe we can ignore this thread, which seems to have run its course.

Yes, people aren't understanding what happened, but that's because the post is a bit unclear, and you have to read 2 separate posts to get the full story.

The OP said "I posted a wanted ad on the local Kart club's online classifieds (I am a member).

Yesterday morning a guy replied with his phone number. I called him 40 minutes later. It was 7:00 AM (his time when I called) and someone else already scooped it."

That makes it sound like the seller sent a PM to OP. Or at least that's a reasonable interpretation, and makes it confusing.

It's also unclear as to WHO the OP is suggesting did the dick move (most readers erroneously think he is pointing the finger mostly at the seller)

But from later posts, it becomes more clear what happened:

1) OP posted want ad.
2) Seller posted publicly IN THE THREAD "Hey I have one, call me at 555-5555."
3) Joe Blow (some random guy) saw the thread, and called the seller, pretending to be OP.
4) Seller sold to Joe Blow.

If those are the facts, things seem pretty obvious. Seller did nothing wrong. Joe Blow obviously pulled a dick move (pretty much any time someone lies, pretends to be someone else, and tricks someone in a deal, that's a dick move).

Actually, it's completely clear from the first post, if you go back and read it. There's only one narrative that fits his statements and it is like you describe. Being that you seem to be an attorney (if I recall correctly) you're probably used to reading things a wee bit more carefully than the average Joe. Joe should aspire to do better... :D

The funny thing is that I have noticed from other threads that there are a number of people that reply to threads without actually reading them from the beginning. Sometimes they even admit that.

Odd.

JR

Yeah well, if thats the story:
sucks for the OP, but "who dares, wins" applies.

Seller posted it public
Seller just wants to sell

Anybody who wants to buy it, can buy it since it was posted publicly.


I don't think that whoever bought it, would have claimed to be somebody else.
He just called and said, 'I am calling for that such and such that you are selling'..

I personally wouldn't do it myself, but fair game.

First post seems to call out seller for the dick move. Which I find BS.

Wether or not the one who bought it scooped it, and wether or not thats a DM, is not clear in that first post

It's quite clear to me. I'll cut you some slack since English is probably not your first language.

We also may have a difference of opinion regarding the etiquette of a sale. I expect that I'm a little more conservative than you and possibly older.

JR

Definitely more mature. :)

I have had so many people tell me they were going to buy something online.
And then never actually coming through, that in my book there is no sale until money was exchanged.
In this case there had been no exchange of funds.
And there had not been any formal agreement to do a sale.

There had not even been a discussion about buying, he had not even contacted the seller at that point.

Age has nothing to do with this.
Seller wants to get rid of something in return for money
Seller did what he intended to do
Seller had not made any promisses, or accepted an offer to buy from OP.


And my English is just fine thankyouverymuch, allow me to explain it to you:







The bold part indicates a mitigating factor which would by OP's standards , he would give the seller a break for selling to someone else on the first come first serve basis.

That automatically implies that OP seems to think that without that factor, he has a right to be mad for seller selling it to somebody else.
Which means he implies that he thinks Seller did a Dick Move, and he's not talking about the actual buyer at that point.

Nothing wrong with my English. You might wanna brush up on yours.

Huh? What? How did I get in the middle of this?

My English is fine, thanks. Yours is actually pretty good, for one of those durn for'ners. So, either your reading comprehension is poor, or your ethics.

The seller had no for sale ad.
The buyer posted an "I want to buy it" ad.
The seller responded to the ad with his contact info, where everyone on the forum could see his reply, and did not contact the OP privately.
The dickhead saw the reply and called the seller to buy the transponder, even though he knew he was cutting in front of the OP.

Had the seller posted an ad to sell the transponder- fine, the first guy that offers money gets it. THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED.

That's bad, ethically speaking. If you don't see it that way, then I'd tell you that you are not a reasonable person. And, we'll have to agree to disagree.

JR

Last sentence makes it clear he was referring to the buyer.

To be honest , That last sentence is terribly written.
By all standards of English it doesn't make any sense and I gave up on it.

The lack of interpunction and switching persons all within one single sentence made me just shrug.
I assumed he was still going on about the hypothecal "If he posted his transponder for sale in its own"



If I was him I would have replied to my ad asking to be next in line.

I him I my WTF?

If I was him: I would have replied to my ad asking to be next in line.

Makes slightly more sense, except Nobody replies to his own ad , does he?

"If I was him: I would have replied to sellers post on the wanted for sale ad, asking to be next in line instead of snatching it from the seller."

That would have made sense to everybody.



Seller did nothing wrong, the one who sniped it was a bit of a dick.
But to moan about that, frankly , there are worse things in life.. I wouldn't do it
but i sure as hell would not go out on a forum to cry about it if somebody had sniped one like that... unless it was a friend, and he knew about my intent..From a complete stranger, pff, no relation , he owes me nothing. Not worth crying about

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I disagree, Vagisil is in order here.

Once he saw the seller's phone # posted on a public forum, if UB didn't want to/could not call then, all he had to do was send the guy a PM giving his name and phone #, saying he'll take it and that he'll call at a specified time to discuss details.

Or email.

Or posted the same info on the thread.