Dick move or not?
 

I am looking for an older amb transponder for Karting. I posted a wanted ad on the local Kart club's online classifieds (I am a member).

Yesterday morning a guy replied with his phone number. I called him 40 minutes later. It was 7:00 AM (his time when I called) and someone else already scooped it.

If he posted his transponder for sale in its own ad and not replied to my wanted ad then for sure, first to reply gets it.

What do you guys think? Should I be mad?

If I was him I would have replied to my ad asking to be next in line.

You didn't answer the question. Did dick move, or not?




Couldn't resist.

I think the call on the field is no dick move, because you didn't respond first.

On appeal, the call will be reviewed in super slo mo.

Appeal to the FIA. They will rule that your move was just a racing incident.

Then two weeks later they will ban you for a race.

I hope you were able to get to your safe space quickly after the call.

Yes, dick move.

No, not a dick move.

Why would he wait to hear from you if someone came along and said they wanted it? Him responding to you is not you responding to him.

Think about it.

You post a for sale ad for your car. Someone posts a wanted ad for a car just like yours. You call the guy and leave a message. Some other guy calls you up with cash in hand to buy your car. What are you going to do? Turn down the cash in hand offer because you called the guy with the car wanted ad? Not bloody likely!!

Meh, don't expect anything but a dick move and you won't be surprised.

Not a dick move. You asked for his phone number - you didn't commit to buying. Someone else did.

Now if you had a verbal DEAL and he sold it. Thats a dick move.

I did not ask for the number. He replied to my ad with his number asking me to call which I did 40 minutes later.

You can be mad, and worry about whether or not it was a dick move, or you can let it go.
Either way, someone else got the transponder.

Agreed.

I'm the guy who helps out everyone at the track. Maybe I be more selective from this point on... I know who scooped it and it's a small club.

Isn't that always the case. You try and be the stand up guy and put the big picture ahead of needs of the individual (or the self) and the ONE TIME you'd like something to work in your favor, you're made to feel bad about the whole thing.

Life. It's not for pussies.

The Dick move was the guy that jumped on Unclebillys ad.

Seller had no idea who he was talking to, for all he knew it was Billy.

A dick move is if they agree to sell you the item, THEN sell it to someone else.

The guy who bought it lead the seller to believe he was me.

Dick move. You created the opportunity for the seller to offer you what you wanted. The dick cut in line to grab it out from under you. The dick didn't post a wanted ad that generated the opportunity, you did. The buyer is a dishonorable dick.

Can/would the seller cancel the sale to the dick buyer?

Except there was no reserved spot in line......

Again, no dick move here. At least not the way it was described.

I'm a believer in "you dance with the one that brung you." There's such a thing as honor and integrity.

Okay. I always go back to "Money on the wood makes the deal good."

From the sellers perspective though - you're just another schlub asking... I stopped selling things to private individuals for the most part because of hte 99% of tire kickers and the 'as soon as I sell X I'll have your money' guys.

Not saying you're that guy - but how would he know.

He didn't get a chance. He got tricked by the dick.

Not a dick move

Quote:
"No Good Deed Goes Unpunished."
~ Bazza

Honor and integrity? There was not deal in place so how could someone's honor and integrity be challenged here? Based on the facts presented, this is an example of "you snooze you lose".

Posting an ad saying you want to buy something is a far cry from committing to buying something. Calling you in answer to a wanted ad is a far cry from committing to selling something to you. This whole thread is ludicrous.

Really? You don't know me from Adam. So you really have no idea what you are talking about.

As this "situation" was laid out, the seller did nothing even remotely close to wrong unless he left a message saying the OP had X amount of time get back to him before he sold it.

Let's say there had been 5 wanted ads for a transponder. Some guy wakes up and sees the 5 ads and places calls to all 5 guys. Not a single one answers so he leaves them messages. The 4th guy he called calls back, they agree to a price, and the deal is done. Did the seller shaft guys 1, 2, and 3?

If you say yes, it is guys like you that is what's wrong with there world.

Dude- the buyer did the dick move, not the seller. It doesn't appear the seller knew he was dealing with anyone other the the OP. If he had, and sold it to the buyer, then I'd say he's a dick as well.

In your 5 wanted ad scenario, all were responded to so fair is fair- first come, first served. The OP was skated by the buyer. He poached the opportunity offered by the OP himself.

I'm sorry winders, but your logic has been twisted and half-baked in this thread. Your analogies don't illustrate the situation.

No doubt... dick move 100%.
Dude snaked your potential deal.

That's why I always jump right in quickly with the right money and few questions when I see a fit
Thanks Neil the deal has been sealed I never see it as mine

...unless something seems fishy, then I'll risk losing out

Change your signature:

76 930 - featured in Sept 2013 Pano
77 911S Wide Body GT2 WCMA race car
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But no transponder :(

He's a dick, forget about it. He should have given you a few hours to call.

It's really just a matter of perspective.

My mother always told me to not call people at home before 9 am and after 9 pm.

Outside of those hours it must be an emergency.

Other than that: Dick move for sure.

Not a dick move by seller just naïve and a little bit clumsy.
Sorry, I believe the OP is making the Dick move here for getting upset over timing and this is one of the reasons I never respond to WTB ads as a seller.
I let the buyers call me and sell to the first one with money.
Then these kind of things do not happen.

Not knowing more about the circumstances, I would say not a dick move. You are possibly just a victim of circumstance/timing.
Be disappointed, not angry.

I'm one of the moderators for our developments facebook classifieds page.

All those types of pages run on the same basic principal.

You post a WTB or for sale ad.

First one to respond with interest is first in line.

All subsequent interested parties are next in line based on the order of posting. The most common expression of interest for anyone other than the first is "next".

All interested parties, responders, are given at least 12 hours to engage the OP and arrange for the transaction because life.

If interested party does not respond the OP can move onto the next.

It's fair and prevents people turning it into ebay.

Common courtesy.

The guy who bought the part was able to because Unclebilly put out the feeler. Unclebilly created the opportunity and the buyer cut the line.

Dick move.

Your FB page must have some policy of some sort. But I don't think it's universal.

One other possibility is that the seller actually has a for sale ad somewhere else, you just didn't see it.

The additional part about the buyer posing as you is a dick move.

OP I had the same experience however it was looking for a primo longhood tub.

turned me into a mini PWD72S for some time.


so yes, I would say it is a dick move. the proper third party response, IMO, is 'hey poster can I be next in line if he passes?'

Unless the mods are masochists Garage Sale / Classifieds FB pages do have written / posted rules.

And they are typically consistent.

In my area there are a half dozen pages covering adjacent or overlapping towns.

The other consistent rule is if you post the same item on more than one of the pages you must clearly indicate the item is Cross Posted to avoid drama when someone claims an item on one page while it was claimed earlier on another.

The rules grew organically and are universally understood and generally adhered to (by non dicks) whether a page posts them or not.

Pages that don't follow "the established norm" make PARF look like a bible study group.

This

Reminds me of eBay postings which have disclaimers that the item is also listed locally and a local sale could be grounds to end the auction early.

Can't remember what implications are if there are bids on the item or if there is a reserve that has yet to be met....but I do like the idea of a disclaimer in order to minimize misunderstandings.