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afterburn 549 07-12-2017 05:49 PM

mcgregor vs mayweather
 
I do not particularly care for Mcgregor and I could even care less about Floyd.
I quit watching boxing years ago when it became filled with idiots that could barely chew gum and walk.
MMA is a lot more challenging!
In fact every MMA person I have ever seen interviewed seems to have a command of the language they were raised in!
Many have become commentators for MMA.
By boxing standards compared to MMA , boxing looks like a couple alter boys having an argument.
However, I could care less about Conner .
In fact, i would ordinarily choose whomever Coner is fighting to win.
But this time I have to chose the Conner Mcgregor.
Why?
Because I would like to see the MMA trounce the idiots that box.
So even with most of Coner"s weapons taken away, I hope he destroys Mayweather.
Most boxers can hardly speak in any language and carry on like Tyson.
I notice the big bad boxer Mayweather never attempted to take on the MMA by its rules.
Go MMA
Show everyone thet boxing is over and no contest!

Don Ro 07-12-2017 05:58 PM

Is this going to take place or you just blowin' smoke?

freeform911 07-12-2017 06:07 PM

Does anyone really care about this "fight"? They both come across as d bags!

afterburn 549 07-12-2017 06:10 PM

IDC about either of them.
It's just that conner represents the MMA, and I wish the MMA to beat the crap out of the boxer.
Send the boxers home to learn to really know how to fight!

Jims5543 07-12-2017 06:16 PM

I have always had a soft spot for the Irish, be it from my Dropkick Murphys fascination to my love for all Irish Whiskey.

Knowing Conors background, being from the poor and fighting his way to stardom. As much as he is a crap talker (Cassius Clay anyone?) he can back it up pretty good.

I for one hope he beats the snot out of that "man" that likes to beat woman up.

Mayweather is overdue for a good beating.

Plus who cannot love this pinstripe suit Connor wore to the presser the other night.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/xOdP...1499815358.jpg

Jeff Higgins 07-12-2017 06:39 PM

As much as I despise Mayweather, under strict boxing rules, no MMA fighter has a chance in the ring. It will be an absolute route, if Mayweather so chooses.

WPOZZZ 07-12-2017 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 9660256)
As much as I despise Mayweather, under strict boxing rules, no MMA fighter has a chance in the ring. It will be an absolute route, if Mayweather so chooses.

Yeah, that was a chicken kukai move by Mayweather.

In case anyone wonders about Jim's pinstripe comment.

https://i.imgur.com/5P3lfCu.png

afterburn 549 07-12-2017 06:54 PM

I have heard others say that, but my logic says the MMA guy now has just two weapons to concentrate /use.
Down from at least 6.
I would think this would allow more concentration.
Next boxing rounds are 3 min.instead of 5min
McGregor should not break a sweat.

masraum 07-12-2017 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 9660221)
IDC about either of them.
It's just that conner represents the MMA, and I wish the MMA to beat the crap out of the boxer.
Send the boxers home to learn to really know how to fight!

Yeah, but can the MMA guys manage with out kicking, grappling, ground and pound and arm bars? Boxing and MMA are two very different forms of fighting. Asking Mayweather to perform in an MMA fight is silly. He'd take years to learn all of the techniques that are used in MMA. In a fight between 2 guys at the top of their game in each one, I think the guy that in his chosen field is going to have a clear advantage.
This feels like asking a metal fabricator and a carpenter to build a dresser from scratch. Both guys may use some of the same hand tools, but the guy that's in his realm is going to have a clear advantage. This seems like the kind of thing where the MMA guy could get badly embarrassed or disqualified for not being able to give up his full bag of tricks when the going gets tough. I assume that for these guys it's more about a huge payday because of the hype and spectacle.

masraum 07-12-2017 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 9660276)
I have heard others say that, but my logic says the MMA guy now has just two weapons to concentrate /use.
Down from at least 6.
I would think this would allow more concentration.
Next boxing rounds are 3 min.instead of 5min
McGregor should not break a sweat.

Meh, totally different game. He's used to having a whole toolbox full of tools, head, hands, forearms, elbows, knees, feet, throws, punches, grappling, etc.... Now you've taken all of the tools out of his toolbox and left him with a hammer and a screwdriver and asked him to rebuild an engine. Mayweather has been building engines with a screwdriver and a hammer for years.

If they us MMA gloves, that may make a difference.

Jeff Higgins 07-12-2017 07:31 PM

Mayweather is done fighting serious boxers - he proved that much in his last fight. He is now looking for a "fight" that is anything but. He's found a loudmouth MMA patsy who has convinced himself he can "box". He's lobbying to go with virtually unpadded MMA gloves, supposedly in a nod to his opponent's background. Yet the grappling that those gloves allow, the only reason for their severely compromised design as a boxing glove, will not be allowed. So Mayweather gets to box an unskilled (in boxing) opponent with a glove that would be illegal for boxing otherwise, due to fighter safety concerns. So unless they are looking for a WWF type show, if Mayweather comes in in shape and serious about it, McGregor stands a very real chance of getting pretty seriously hurt.

I know it's really no comparison, but as a kid and young man I did a fair bit of boxing in Golden Gloves and other local programs. We would see kids get in the ring with their various black belts in disciplines we couldn't even pronounce. Some sounded impressive enough and all of that, but when made to box, under boxing rules, we absolutely kicked their asses every single time. All of their go-to moves were illegal, and impossible anyway with boxing gloves.

We used to laugh at the irony of the old "kickboxing" matches. The organizations had to institute rules for how many kicks had to be thrown every round, because plain old boxing was so much more effective. Grappling and wrestling were forbidden, so between kicking and boxing, boxing was far more effective.

Take away the ground game, use the gloves that enable it, and the boxer is going to hurt the other guy. The ground game is the backbone of MMA. Make them box a boxer and it ain't gonna end well...

tevake 07-12-2017 07:43 PM

They both seem more show men, than fighters. But their records say otherwise.
I'm surprised that Connor agreed to do a boxing fight.

Would have expected them to include some level of MMA technics in the mix to make it a stretch for both of them.

Cheers Richard

Don Ro 07-12-2017 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=Jeff Higgins;9660256]As much as I despise Mayweather, under strict boxing rules, no MMA fighter has a chance in the ring. It will be an absolute route, if Mayweather so chooses.[/QUOTE

Hmm...I'm not so sure about that. We'll see.

speeder 07-12-2017 08:51 PM

Higgins is correct. I like CM and he's a good puncher but plenty of knowledgeable people have doubts whether he'll even be able to land a punch on Mayweather.

Mayweather is a jerk and I don't like him but he's an extremely skilled boxer and he has frustrated much more proficient fighters than McGregor. I've never seen an MMA fighter who was even a passable boxer and I've watched a lot of those matches. I'm embarrassed for them when they try to box.

A top level pro boxer hits so hard and so accurately w such unbelievable coordination combined with being able to take the best shots from their actual contemporaries. CM doesn't stand a chance. Imagine Mike Tyson or Foreman or Hearns or Hagler or any of them in their prime in a boxing ring w the 23 thousandth rank fighter in the world. The knockout would happen in seconds.

Jims5543 07-13-2017 02:33 AM

Conor was a boxer that entered into MMA. This will not be his first boxing match.

T77911S 07-13-2017 03:20 AM

connor is just arrogant, cocky, and confident.

you cant blame the guy for that. I think it comes with the profession which is what I have to keep telling myself. besides, who is going to tell him he sucks, not me.

I think you would have to see him outside of the "spotlight".

my money is on connor, not that I like him, the guy is just incredible, unfortunately.

its kind of like Justin B, no one likes him because he is such a Dbag. he was not like that before he was famous and everyone was kissing his a$$.

RKDinOKC 07-13-2017 04:01 AM

First off not at all into Boxing or MMA.

First observation.
A boxer sounding like they have brain damage. Isn't that a hazzard of boxing.

Second observation.
If Conner is such a good boxer, then why go to MMA.

BK911 07-13-2017 04:44 AM

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Rodsrsr 07-13-2017 07:00 AM

Mayweather is no Tyson. He's a boring a points fighter who runs around the ring half the time and really doesnt have huge knockout power. He's also 40 years old, so guaranteed he's slowed down. CM is only 28 and in his prime, plus he's a physically bigger, stronger man, and he will me more aggressive. He's also going into the fight knowing that without a doubt he could utterly destroy Mayweather at will if it were an actual fight. In other words he has zero fear. Im actually leaning on CM.

stuttgart46 07-13-2017 07:40 AM

I'm not much of a gambler but if I'm looking at the odds correctly it seems like the only way to make any money on this fight would be to throw a couple of bucks on Conner?
IMHO, for Conner to win he has to knock Floyd down within the first 3 rounds.

JavaBrewer 07-13-2017 08:13 AM

I don't believe either guy really cares about the outcome. It's the money. I predict the fight will be called on some sort of technical foul inside 7 rounds with each fighter claiming the win. FM will do what he does best - avoid the hits. CM will chase and get frustrated when his left hand hits air. No way I am paying $ to see this.

I agree that FM, and most pure boxers, would get destroyed in the MMA octagon.

speeder 07-13-2017 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JavaBrewer (Post 9660745)
I don't believe either guy really cares about the outcome. It's the money. I predict the fight will be called on some sort of technical foul inside 7 rounds with each fighter claiming the win. FM will do what he does best - avoid the hits. CM will chase and get frustrated when his left hand hits air. No way I am paying $ to see this.

I agree that FM, and most pure boxers, would get destroyed in the MMA octagon.

Of course they would, just as they would get "destroyed" by Olympic wrestlers using wrestling rules. Different game.

MMA is a garbage sport compared to boxing. Elbows, choking, smashing someone's face in when they're down on the ground and defenseless...I'm surprised they don't allow the homies to come in and deliver some head kicks to help out. :rolleyes:

It looks either like a bar brawl/tough man competition or like two guys in Speedos butt fking up against a chain link fence. It's total garbage but sometimes entertaining. I have no curiosity as to its popularity, the average Joe thinks he could do it and relates to the fighting style but no one outside of a nut ward thinks they could get in the ring w a legit pro boxer and trade punches.

ForBell 07-13-2017 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9660984)
MMA is a garbage sport... like two guys in Speedos butt fking up against a chain link fence. It's total garbage but sometimes entertaining.

so you find this entertaining, do you speedo?
at least you no longer have to risk polluting your computer with all of that gay porn site malware.

kach22i 07-13-2017 11:32 AM

Mayweather will be within his element, as much as I'd like to see him get hit hard and lose, it's just not going to happen.

The man is just too elusive.......................like Pacquiao said after his fight; Mayweather would not stay still.

MMA is all offense, no defense.

Boxing comprises of offense and defense, there is an art to it, as boring as that may be sometimes.

Rodsrsr 07-13-2017 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9660984)
Of course they would, just as they would get "destroyed" by Olympic wrestlers using wrestling rules. Different game.

MMA is a garbage sport compared to boxing. Elbows, choking, smashing someone's face in when they're down on the ground and defenseless...I'm surprised they don't allow the homies to come in and deliver some head kicks to help out. :rolleyes:

It looks either like a bar brawl/tough man competition or like two guys in Speedos butt fking up against a chain link fence. It's total garbage but sometimes entertaining. I have no curiosity as to its popularity, the average Joe thinks he could do it and relates to the fighting style but no one outside of a nut ward thinks they could get in the ring w a legit pro boxer and trade punches.

I would have to disagree. The MMA fighter is much more skilled overall than the boxer, simply because he can do more. All the Kung Fu movies and Hollywood make fighting pretty, but in reality its the non flashy things that work. Take down, control position, ground/pound or submit to finish. Ground fighting is much more complex than boxing. Your natural instincts are 100% wrong when it comes to grappling. It takes years to develop a good ground game, and the MMA guys have both. Lets see a boxer move like this... Now you try it. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQH5CYfuRHU

stealthn 07-13-2017 06:16 PM

My best result is each knock each other out in the first round, and everyone gets their money back and Mayweather goes to jail for tax evasion.

Just sayin

masraum 07-13-2017 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 9660689)
Like I have said-
I would like to see the boxer destroyed.
Not because I like C.M. or dislike floyd.
Rather because boxing is a pointless useless sport filled with people that can not carry a conversation.
Diaz destroyed CM in the 1st fight, and lost to split decision the 2end.
It is not like CM is the best or even near the greatest.
Perhaps the loudest.
I would guess in 10 years boxing will taper off to nothing anyway with the televising of MMA.
People will not care about boxing.
It is beyond boring.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9660984)
Of course they would, just as they would get "destroyed" by Olympic wrestlers using wrestling rules. Different game.

MMA is a garbage sport compared to boxing. Elbows, choking, smashing someone's face in when they're down on the ground and defenseless...I'm surprised they don't allow the homies to come in and deliver some head kicks to help out. :rolleyes:

It looks either like a bar brawl/tough man competition or like two guys in Speedos butt fking up against a chain link fence. It's total garbage but sometimes entertaining. I have no curiosity as to its popularity, the average Joe thinks he could do it and relates to the fighting style but no one outside of a nut ward thinks they could get in the ring w a legit pro boxer and trade punches.

I certainly wouldn't want to get into a ring for any kind of fight with either kind of fighter. And I do think there is and can be some skill to either, but I think the rules and limitations in boxing make it more sporting (and I really don't much care for boxing). But there can be a lot of skill involved in the other, but most of the time, it seems to be more about aggression, power and speed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForBell (Post 9661022)
so you find this entertaining, do you speedo?
at least you no longer have to risk polluting your computer with all of that gay porn site malware.

Dude!? We aren't in the PARF forum. WTF?

masraum 07-13-2017 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodsrsr (Post 9661404)
I would have to disagree. The MMA fighter is much more skilled overall than the boxer, simply because he can do more. All the Kung Fu movies and Hollywood make fighting pretty, but in reality its the non flashy things that work. Take down, control position, ground/pound or submit to finish. Ground fighting is much more complex than boxing. Your natural instincts are 100% wrong when it comes to grappling. It takes years to develop a good ground game, and the MMA guys have both. Lets see a boxer move like this... Now you try it. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQH5CYfuRHU

Not seeing a whole lot of that ^

in this. I have to wonder about how hard some of these guys hit since I've seen lots of clips of 2 guys going at each others faces trading blows like mad without any thought for not getting hit in the process. It's definitely not a sport that I want to take up. I'm far to pretty ;) :D
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speeder 07-13-2017 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 9661519)


Dude!? We aren't in the PARF forum. WTF?

Even in PARF, he's a particularly stupid monkey. He doesn't know where he is half the time. :)

Jeff Higgins 07-13-2017 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 9660454)
Conor was a boxer that entered into MMA. This will not be his first boxing match.

MMA is rife with guys who could not make it in boxing. They lack the skill, stamina, and discipline.

enzo1 07-13-2017 08:49 PM

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M.D. Holloway 07-13-2017 08:57 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1olm81n530

Don Ro 07-13-2017 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 9661568)
MMA is rife with guys who could not make it in boxing. They lack the skill, stamina, and discipline.

Did you read that somewhere or is that just an expression of hope?
;)

pwd72s 07-13-2017 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enzo1 (Post 9661588)

I suspect the hype is bigger than the fight will be.

Rednine11 07-14-2017 03:13 AM

Floyd will destroy him.............

Rodsrsr 07-14-2017 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rednine11 (Post 9661673)
Floyd will destroy him.............

lol....I don't think Floyd has ever "destroyed" anyone. Unless you consider running around the ring scoring points "destroying".

greglepore 07-14-2017 07:40 AM

Higgins nailed it.
I agree that under MMA rules this would be a different fight, but it's not under MMA rules. It's boxing. Floyd is one of the greatest defensive boxers of all time and can punch.

Rodsrsr 07-14-2017 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 9661568)
MMA is rife with guys who could not make it in boxing. They lack the skill, stamina, and discipline.


Spoken by a guy who probably never stepped foot on a mat. It takes years to develop a game in one area of expertise. The MMA fighter usually knows three. Stand up (Boxing/Muay Tai) take downs (wrestling/Judo) Ground submissions (BJJ/Sambo) Probably 10 years at least in take downs and grappling alone to be proficient on the ground at that level. Now add in the time needed to develop decent strikes and you have an MMA fighter. All fighters train hard. Only a keyboard fighter would make a comment like that.

Rednine11 07-14-2017 09:48 PM

now I know I am a no one here but I did fight pro boxing ten years. I was corner man cut man ref and trainer plus fighter. now I am old but sometimes experience prevails. My boy Floyd will destroy this mma Conner fairly quickly but I'm not going to tell you how because I hope he drives a Porsche and buys his parts from pelican
If you think a MMA can beat a boxer in a square ring with square rules. now you just not realistic . the fastest money I made was 1500 dollars in nine minutes. Thats my best. FM will make easy money on this man. MMA fighters lose because they cant use their hands. legs hit harder but my arm is half as short. I will be inside not outside like an MMA fighter you cant land a leg or knee I will break your jaw first. three broken jaws so far two left one right NONE WERE MINE
class dismissed

AFC-911 07-14-2017 10:20 PM

Floyd knows he should be able to toy with Conor...But he'll prolong it to put on a show.


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