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tabs 07-18-2017 09:52 PM

Top 3 GREAT MEN OF today in no particular order are:

1. TABS
2. TABS
3. TABS

island911 07-18-2017 10:09 PM

Well, sure. So obvious ^

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Originally Posted by Jolly Amaranto (Post 9667401)
I am kind of a space science geek so Carl Sagan and Neil Degrasse Tyson.

Neil Degrasse Tyson is no. where. near. Carl Sagan.

Sagan lived to inform. NDT lives for attention.

WPOZZZ 07-18-2017 10:31 PM

Jeff Bezos and Pierre Omidyar revolutionized the way we buy things.

Jolly Amaranto 07-19-2017 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 9667569)
Well, sure. So obvious ^



Neil Degrasse Tyson is no. where. near. Carl Sagan.

Sagan lived to inform. NDT lives for attention.

I can see where he comes across that way. I just appreciate the way he enthusiastically promotes the sciences to the younger generation. That sort of continues the precedent pioneered by Sagan where he broke away from the stuffy "egg head" brains who were more interested in discovering things for their own promotion and advancing themselves in the scientific community and somehow obtaining grants to fund it all. With the winding down of the cold war military research, Sagan realized that funding was drying up and to get funding for all the science exploration, the public had to be informed so that they could demand it from congress. What better place to whip up enthusiasm and at the same time groom new minds to carry on in the sciences than with the youth?

vash 07-19-2017 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9667332)
Vash.

oh please...i just walked in my office with my boots unlaced. shut the dangling laces into the door jamb and damn near body slammed myself on the floor..:D

somedays..............

tcar 07-19-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 9667554)
Anyone else thinking "Holy crap, those are some big-ass chains"?

'Great Eastern' launching chains... on the right...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isambard_Kingdom_Brunel#/media/File:Great_eastern_launch_attempt.jpg

Racerbvd 07-19-2017 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9667385)
Mark Zuckerberg gets my vote because Facebook has irreversibly changed the world. (for better or worse?)

I'm sure Mark didn't setout to do this but that's what's happened. What's more powerful than the influencing of ideas?
Think about this. YOU have more power now than your president did 30 years ago.
You can share a political opinion and people around the world can be reading that comment as soon as it's posted.

Ideas change the world!

Brunel gets a mention because of his body or work, early innovation and problem solving.

You do know that wasn't his idea, he was paid to develop it, then stole it. He is nothing more than a POS con man thief.

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scottmandue 07-19-2017 08:07 AM

P. Diddy

sc_rufctr 07-19-2017 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 9667842)
You do know that wasn't his idea, he was paid to develop it, then stole it. He is nothing more than a POS con man thief.

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"IF" that's true he the greatest POS con man thief in modern history.

(I don't know enough about what happened and I haven't seen the movie)

sammyg2 07-19-2017 08:25 AM

FAME and recognition do not make a man great.

The men who get up and go to work every day, do their best to succeed and earn a good living to support their families, follow the rules, willingly make personal sacrifices for others, and then dedicate themselves to be positive role models and good parents are the ones who have EARNED greatness.

Amail 07-19-2017 09:07 AM

Musk

CalPersFatCat 07-19-2017 09:30 AM

"IF" Trump appoints two more supreme court justices, and thereby changes the shape of the SCOTUS for a generation, then you have to give credit where credit is due.

Steve Bannon.

DL

yellowperil 07-19-2017 09:41 AM

Russ Meyer

berettafan 07-19-2017 10:08 AM

this thread is depressing.

if trump achieves half of what he promised (a very unlikely scenario) he will be the greatest American of the past 50 years.

i guess 'great' depends on what end result the person in question pushed us towards. facebook brought us the most powerful bullying tool we've ever seen and contributes to the childish behavior of millions upon millions of adults as well as untold number of psychiatric problems in children. it has managed to create a mental disease whereby its users grant themselves a level of importance and relevance that is most certainly not deserved. amazon has laid waste to local businesses which are the lifeblood of individual communities. it has packaged their businesses up and delivered them to the Chinese with a bow on top. I may be able to get goods cheaper and faster BUT my community suffers for it. musk....gov't welfare gamer.

when Bill Cosby stood up and told his fellow blacks to quit acting like n&^%*#s THAT was a great man. Turns out he is a fiend as well...but THAT was greatness. A man with much to lose and nothing to gain spoke up.

Cosby could be guilty of all he is accused of and would STILL be a man who brought more net benefit to his world than most of the clowns named in this thread.

We need to rethink what the meaning of 'great' is. it's fairly clear that too many judge greatness by the size of something that was done and not the benefit it gave.

sammyg2 07-19-2017 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Amail (Post 9667955)
Musk

Greatest con man of all time, agreed.

TheMentat 07-19-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 9667842)
You do know that wasn't his idea, he was paid to develop it, then stole it. He is nothing more than a POS con man thief.

I view this a bit differently (and I'm no fan of Zuckerberg)...

Even if these twins seeded the idea, Zuckerberg was the guy that built both the product, and the company. You may feel that the twins weren't fairly compensated for their contribution, but that doesn't take anything away from his accomplishments. The fact that the twins didn't/couldn't come up with a competing product or business without him says a lot to me about which side came up with the secret sauce.

It seems to me that greatness stems from the ability to get things done, and by that metric, I think Zuckerberg qualifies.

scottmandue 07-19-2017 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9667882)
FAME and recognition do not make a man great.

Sad that now we think of celebrities and politicians as 'Great Men':

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Crowbob 07-19-2017 11:03 AM

The greatest man of any era is Everyman. It is Everyman who creates the bed in which the seeds of genius grow. Billions of unnamed, uncredited toilers trying to leave the world a tiny bit better than how they found it.

Uller in gnat, I got nuthin.

scottmandue 07-19-2017 12:13 PM

Steve Gates, Steve Wozniak, Brian Greene, the group working on the Human Genome project, people working on stem cell research, people working on alternative energy.

I hope by 'man' you mean human because there are a lot of women changing the world for the better out there.

svandamme 07-19-2017 12:17 PM

I have a thread with my name on it, and more posts that anybody else.

Why look any further.

Who wants to touch me?


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