Do you SERIOUSLY want to help save the planet?
 

Take a look at this article from a UBC study on climate change and then decide....

Serious about stopping climate change? Have one less child, UBC study says | National Post

This really comes as no surprise to me! I've long believed that this planet cannot sustain our current population growth.

The top three:

(1) Have fewer children = A savings of 58.6 less tonnes of CO2 / year / child!!:eek:
(2) Live car free = 2.4 tonnes
(3) Avoid ONE less trans-Atlantic (or trans-continental) flight per year = 1.6 tonnes

Apparently hanging up our clothes to dry instead of using a clothes dryer just AIN'T gonna cut it!:rolleyes:

Well, what are YOU going to do to save us all?:p

So the plot of Idiocracy is pushed into action? The smart people stop have kids and the idiots and breed like rats.

Individuals will have very little impact on the planet. Long after humans are all gone the planet will be here and there will be little evidence of humans on earth. The stuff we left on the moon and Mars may be the only long term evidence of humans.

the next logical step to save the planet is suicide.

hint hint.




i'll see this thread again when it reaches parf.

Europe and Japan are pleading with their citizens to have more babies. What's more important sustaining GPD or the planet?

Overpopulation?

It's a myth...

GDP!.....of course!!

As the poster says, I don't downshift my V-8 Mustang often, but when I do, it's next to a Prius so he can hear me ruining the planet.

Also, I sometimes celebrate earth day by falling a tree.

I was a little shocked at number three..."really long plane trips"....only TWO less per year would be better than going car free for the whole year!.....mmmmm Mr. Motion???

My wife and I only have one kid so we're entitled to our annual trips to Hawaii!!

Actully we could take 58.6/1.6X2= 18.31 trips to Hawaii per year to make up for one less kid!;)

Somebody has watched (or read) Dan Brown's Inferno a few too many times.

Man, and Obama took a 747 to Hawaii from the Eastern United States every year. Think of how much planet saving we could of done without re-electing Obama to be president once we found out this was part of his deal?

The idea that a single individual's actions would make ANY difference to the planet is silly and way over the top. It's social engineering.

You just aint that important.

sorry.

How about using some of our foriegn aid on mega packs of (American made) condoms for 3rd world countries with clear instructions.

If you look at your list all those problems stem from earth's infestation of the human race.

Eliminate people... problem solved!

car free savings of 2.4 tonnes only makes sense for the benchmark of a small car driven a few thousand miles per year

an f150 has emissions of around 1 lb per mile so say 6 tons for a typical 12k usage case

I dunno, I filled an entire hefty bag with exhaust from my pickemup, it don't weight squat!

maybe that's why they call em tonnays.

Won't work, men in third would countries feel that condoms are 'unmanly'.
As a work around those countries teaching women how to use condoms and distributing them to the ladies.

Most of the problems in your post are fixing themselves... more and more kids are not interested in a drivers license or getting a car... many young married couples are opting to not have children. (at least in America)

PARF......., in 3,..........2, ..............1....................

Here in America it's pronounced "GDP!.....of course!!"

:)

I totally agree that every woman in every country should be limited to 2 kids per lifetime! Bar code them and then after the second child,.. snip... It's the only way.. lol..

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]No liberty or choice for anybody other than the elite. Big centralized Government knows best.[/COLOR

To answer the title question: No.

Whoa! You breeders owe me.

In case its been a while . Just listen to it .
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Fewer children. The trouble is the moron classes breed like flies and don't listen to advice.

PO asks what have you done to help the environment.

What have I done? I've gone solar for my electricity. All LED bulbs. Variable speed motor for the pool pump. Instantaneous water heater. Conserve water as much as possible, fast showers, collect rain water for the garden. Carpooling with my son whom I work with. Heck, my electricity usage is 2/3 what it used to be. That helps with $

The effects of one individual, almost meaningless in the big picture, but together a change can be made. One rain drop, no big deal. But they can gang up and cause a flood by working together. Am I a "greenie", heck no. But I do think we all have an obligation to each other to do whatever we can to help. Oh, I probably negate all the good by driving my 911.

Long term I think we're screwed. I remember the last time I went to the Grand Canyon, a place where the average Joe from every walk of life (and from all over the world) goes out of their way to soak in the natural beauty.

As I stood at one of the overlooks taking in the scene before me I looked down just past my feet and saw hundreds of cigarette butts littering the ground on the other side of the railing. Every overlook was the same.

I realized far too few care about the planet (and do the right thing). The masses don't a give $hit.

Well, it looks like I've done my part. I've had 3 kids instead of 4. We only really fly for vacation once every other year. Maybe once a year at best. And next week we'll have 2 cars instead of 3. :)

Then and now..............
 

The earth has been experiencing climate changes for the entire recorded history. The human race survived then and it will survive now. Unless someone wants to shut down some entire countries and indulge in genocide at a whole new level, not much will change from anything humans can do. The best thing is to be sensible about consumption and don't be "greedy" over "stuff". And, before anyone jumps on his/her soapbox about "uneducated response", I have two engineering degrees and worked in various engineering fields for about 40 years. I'm not stupid, just realistic.

I am no "greenie" either, but try to do my part by recycling everything we use as far as glass/plastics/aluminum cans/steel cans/cardboard and paper. I want to start dabbling with passive, and active solar in the next few years, and when I retire, I am building a greenhouse to attempt growing our own food. Betwen the garden, and the meat chickens/rabbits we have, I will be saving alot of packaging on the grocery items we don't buy.

We also run the same car/appliances/furniture until they are generally worn out (not just out of style) because it takes alot of fossil fuel/money to produce new ones.

Bill Nye: Older people need to 'die' out before climate science can advance


Bill Nye: Older people need to 'die' out before climate science can advance

One fewer child? I have two children. That's one fewer than three. There. I did my part.

Yup, the Earth's climate was hugely cyclical long before we showed up. We are but blips in the long history of the earth. Pretending that we can seriously influence the climate of our planet is in many ways the hubris of our species, we like to pretend that we control our own destiny. Sadly in many ways, we have almost no say.

Unfortunately, the possibility of this happening is uncomfortably close at hand. Now that computers and internet connectivity are being used to control power grids and water resources and will soon control transportation systems, all First-World countries will find themselves vulnerable to such an event. State-sponsored hackers have already been able to take down large portions of the power grid in the Ukraine for periods of time. Are they just practicing for some future cyber war?

When it comes to these discussions, the Bloodhound Gang made an instructional song.

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What an ignorant moron!

In 40 years, manbearpig will be viewed like we view eugenics.

I'm not concerned with people not throwing cigarette butts away, there is no "away". Until we shoot our trash out into space it just goes into someone elses backyard. Pol Pot had a great environmental plan by lowering carbon footprint of the living. . . and reducing that number substantially but I don't see many advocating for that.
But it doesn't really matter. When the next 20 mile wide comet hits the earth, all of this will be irrelevant. enjoy your weekend

Mother Earth won't give a crap...

Same as it's ever been :)

Eugenics never goes away. It just changes it's name every generation or so.

Every time mankind figures out how to measure or track something it is suddenly a huge issue showing how mankind is ruining the planet.

Pesky Agent Smith.

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