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Time to cash in some options
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nice...I bet there are a few people who feel the exact opposite with options in Knight Capital today:O
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Talk about pisspoor timing, I missed out on over $50k I could have gotten if I would have waited:
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Shoulda-woulda-coulda.....take the money and run.
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Sammy, the original Baron Rothschild explained the secret to his investment success by saying he never bought at the lowest point, and never sold at the highest point. his point was that people go broke waiting for the peak or valley, so you just buy and sell based on your objective evaluation of the stock. If you get what you wanted for it, you got a good deal.
I wouldn't sweat missing out on the run up. Another famous Texas investor explained his upbringing in abject poverty after being born into a wealthy family because his father had made so much money on cotton futures that he put the family's entire fortune at risk in the market, certain that he knew when to time the absolute peak and unwilling to leave a cent on the table: "My Daddy waited for cotton to hit 20 cents a pound before he sold. Unfortunately, the market broke at 19 and the panic set in." Cotten went to a nickle a pound and our family was ruined". Lyndon Baines Johnson Apparently his father would have broken even as low at 12 cents or so. But the market was being supported only by speculators and once the bubble burst, cotton became worthless and LBJ's dad lost the family farm. You got a nice spike and didn't bet the farm on it, so sleep well.
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I bought some stock last year after a few threads here, when I was able to figure out where you worked.
Not a lot, just enough to make me smile. I'll hold. Thanks.
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I also have some options exercisable at $42. I figured they were worthless and that the stock would never get that high before the options expire in 2014 but I may be able get a few bux for them yet. So, do I cash them in at $43, or wait for $50? Maybe $60? Gotta get that crystal ball out of the shop. ![]() |
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I hope your company has a better safety record than BP. Not that this is exactly hard....
You should have moved to Texas before exercising your options...
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Tesoro has a pretty poor safety record what with the refineries blowing up and killing workers, and has been successfully sued by several school districts for polluting children's drinking water.
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This is a dangerous business and anyone who says it isn't is lying. But Tesoro is an industry leader in safety. There was a very unfortunate accident that occured 2 years ago where 7 of our brother workers lost their lives due to a heat exchanger rupturing from hydrogen embrittlement. We still grieve over that loss. But to use that to sum up a safety record for 7 refineries over decades of operation is misleading at best, sleazy at worst. Tesoro recieves safety awards every year from organizations like the NPRA (national petroleum refiners association) for being an industry leader in safety. In an industry that is inherently fraught with danger, one of the most dangerous manufacturing industries there is, Tesoro has a TRIR (total recordable injury rate) of 0.47 Go ahead and ask someone in the safety business just how good that is. Maybe Hugh will chime in, he knows just how good that is. Companies like Apple or Microsoft dream of a safety record that good, and their biggest worry is a paper cut or someone tripping on a rug. Not containing a 2000 psi mixture of 900 degree oil and hydrogen. At the Los Angeles refinery in 2011 they had a TRIR of 0.00 ZERO OSHA recordable injustries for the entire calendar year with approximately 850 full time employees. How many billion dollar industrial manufacturing facilities can say that? I bet you could count them on one hand. Last edited by sammyg2; 09-10-2012 at 01:45 PM.. Reason: typo |
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You wouldn't believe how dangerous those Aeron chairs are.
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Careful sammy - are you saying that your employer has the best safety record in its industry segment? That can be checked you know...
and FWIW, all the refiners get awards from the organization they 'own' (pay dues into) oh, and in the spirit of full disclosure... just the other day the arm loosened on my Aeron chair and I was discomfited for several seconds! |
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Here are the highest incidence rates by industry. http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/osh/os/ostb2801.pdf
0.47 beats law office and banks, btw. It also beats my industry.
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.47 is pretty pretty pretty good.
Why are nursing facilities so high?
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Mainly back injuries from lifting patients, I would suspect.
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that table is only for nonfatal injuries and only for workers - it does not cover the dead workers at refineries nor the poisoned school children
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