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scottmandue 08-22-2017 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 9709241)
I've been drinking Vitasoy brand soy milk for about 30 years with no odd effects (no tits, desire to wear short skirts...).

And that's fairly much every day.

Same here, drank vitasoy for decades with no ill effects... my wife got on a health kick and we switched to Almond milk... just waiting for some kind of report telling us almonds are bad for us.

We still get edamame as an appetizers when we go out for Japanese food.

They grow a lot if soybeans here in the states so if your check the labels you should be okay.

Cattle are also fed grain and corn, I'm not cutting out those out of my diet any time soon.

cabmandone 08-22-2017 01:37 PM

For the record, they don't really feed the beans to beef cattle or at least not where I'm from. They feed the stuff that has had the soy oil processed out of it (soy meal I guess) to the cattle.

M.D. Holloway 08-22-2017 04:45 PM

hmmm...well, I witnessed my FIL feed beans to his cattle.

stealthn 08-22-2017 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 9709113)
Modern USA soybeans can get roundup sprayed all over them and not die, which will make you think about it for a minute.

Correct, they are genetically modified to resist Roundup/herbicides, but it's been found the actual levels of the chemcial that gives cancer is up 72% from the non-GMO ones

wdfifteen 08-22-2017 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 9710426)
For the record, they don't really feed the beans to beef cattle or at least not where I'm from. They feed the stuff that has had the soy oil processed out of it (soy meal I guess) to the cattle.

It's called "soybean oil meal". High fiber and protein and relatively cheap source of same. It's not economical to feed the whole bean - there are WAY cheaper feeds.

72doug2,2S 08-22-2017 06:01 PM

They taste good, but they give me the wind.

kach22i 08-22-2017 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 9710791)
I think they banned roundup in France quite recently, right?

I don't know, but I recall the Germans being upset that places RoundUp hasn't been used in a decade had the chemical showing up in their beer because the nearby soil was still contaminated and being blown over by the wind.

That stuff just doesn't go away after you stop using it, it's there forever.

The beer laws cannot be broken, that stuff wasn't around 500 years ago - not on the list of ingredients. This might mean war.

BASF has a lot of sway in Germany, I think they supply the base chemicals.

France could have gone RoundUp free, but in Germany it is a political struggle.

The politic has been bought and paid for just like in the US.

M.D. Holloway 08-22-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 9710803)
I don't know, but I recall the Germans being upset that places RoundUp hasn't been used in a decade had the chemical showing up in their beer because the nearby soil was still contaminated and being blown over by the wind.

That stuff just doesn't go away after you stop using it, it's there forever.

The beer laws cannot be broken, that stuff wasn't around 500 years ago - not on the list of ingredients. This might mean war.

BASF has a lot of sway in Germany, I think they supply the base chemicals.

France could have gone RoundUp free, but in Germany it is a political struggle.

The politic has been bought and paid for just like in the US.

It most likely causes all sorts of maladies...Monsanto = death

kach22i 08-23-2017 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway (Post 9710884)
It most likely causes all sorts of maladies...Monsanto = death

The science debates this, but your joke might be closer to the truth than you know.

Roundup Linked to Depression, Alzheimer's, Autism
https://www.wellnessresources.com/news/roundup-linked-to-depression-alzheimers-autism
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Glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup, disrupts the trace mineral manganese in the body causing low levels in the blood and sometimes high levels of it in the liver and brainstem if the liver is too toxic. Glyphosate creates a “dysbiosis” of manganese in the body. Manganese is a necessary catalyst for the shikimate pathway. This pathway is found in plants but also our gut bacteria. Our bodies depend on this gut bacteria pathway to supply us with the amino acids tryptophan, tyrosine, phenylalanine, methionine, and glycine. Serotonin, melatonin, melanin, epinephrine, dopamine, thyroid hormone, folate, coenzyme Q10, vitamin K and vitamin E depend on this pathway too. Glyphosate’s act of binding onto manganese ends up causing the shikamate pathway to be impaired which then leads to a disruption of each these elements. The end result is a domino effect on neurotransmitter, brain, gut, thyroid, bone, energy, skin, and detoxification functions.
I don't know about 1/3 of the words used in the above quote, but it sounds like serious stuff to me.

https://www.wellnessresources.com/news/roundup-linked-to-depression-alzheimers-autism
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Roundup is the number one herbicide used on the planet since 2001. It is used on core food crops especially the GMO Roundup Ready corn, soy, canola, cotton, alfalfa, and sugar beets. There is an increasing rate of herbicide application, because weeds among the genetically engineered crops are developing resistance to Roundup. This would be similar to what we have been experiencing with the development of antibiotics and the superbugs that are now resistant to antibiotics, but on a much grander, global scale.
Most of the items above are already off my list of consumables, and I don't eat cotton. I wonder if residue can rub off your clothes and into the skin - the largest organ of the body.

Guess I'll have to go naked now.
:D

UPDATE:
My wife got the giant bag of Edamame Beans from a neighbor moving out of state, and gave it away last night to a new neighbor moving in across the street. There were several smaller pouches in the larger bag, I still have the open one in the freezer. I might boil them in salty water and take them to a lawn party I am going to Saturday. No matter what their shortcoming are, they have to be healthier than most other snack foods.


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