Shotgun shells&CHOKES - and Lawn furniture..questions.

[vash]

double topics. saving post count

i am going to hunt Sandhill Cranes in TX this NOV. ammo info is all over the place. but for sure, i have NEVER sent pellets as large as "BB" down my barrels. i need steel shot. from what i understand, you do NOT want to shoot #2 or "BB" down a barrel with a screw in choke at FULL-CHOKE, correct? you destroy the barrel? my brother thinks MODIFIED with BB is the way to go. i'm leaning towards #2 steel. i will be shooting my 11-87, while my brother got to raid the gunsafe and "inherited" my stepdads Benelli i told him to shoot 3.5" shells since he can..i am limited to 3". will i need to TRIM my magazine stop to fit the shells? maybe i should get some shells early and try. #2 shot, with modified choke should be tight enough?

okay..LAWN FURNITURE. my wife want outdoor couches on our wood-deck. what last? i see wicker stuff, TEAK..etc. i know the stuff is damn near going on sale this time of year around here. we are also having a compacted gravel pad laid down for a round table.. so i am assuming i will need storage for all the damn cushions and umbrellas. any ideas? you all have dedicated sheds for cushions?

when all this is done...sandhill crane breast backyard bbq at my place!!

[id10t]

All else equal, non-lead shot will deform less and therefore spread less, so you can go with a more open choke for hte same effect.

Of course, the ideal solution is to pattern your shotgun using the ammo you plan on using and several different chokes - you may be surprised.

[berettafan]

mod choke will perform like a full with steel. any tighter and theory says the steel will fail to compress and bulge the barrel and/or blow the pattern.

I use #2 for late season (ie fat) ducks. I'd take a poke at a Canada goose if it happened by close enough. not sure on sandhills. google is your friend there.

no idea what you mean by trimming magazine stop in the 1187 based on shell length? the gun either accepts 3" shells (you can verify by looking at stamping on the barrel tho I'm fairly certain 1187's are 3") or it doesn't. no magazine mods are necessary.

[vash]

Originally Posted by berettafan

no idea what you mean by trimming magazine stop in the 1187 based on shell length? the gun either accepts 3" shells (you can verify by looking at stamping on the barrel tho I'm fairly certain 1187's are 3") or it doesn't. no magazine mods are necessary.

oh, i remember more now.

3" turkey loads. i cannot get the third round pushed into the magazine. it has that standard GREEN remington magazine tube stop. i was wondering if i need to trim it.. maybe i can use a broken section of carbon arrow.

this was never a problem turkey hunting where a single shot would probably suffice. but with the cranes i want that third shot.

[id10t]

Mag should only hold 2 rounds for migratory game (fed law).

[berettafan]

yep. you don't want to be doing that.

[Jeff Higgins]

If you remove the screw-on cap on the end of the magazine tube to remove the barrel, you will notice a wooden plug at that forward end of the magazine. Removing that will provide the magazine capacity you desire. It will also render your gun illegal to hunt migratory waterfowl, as others have mentioned. The green plug you can see through the loading port, at the aft end of the magazine, has nothing to do with magazine capacity and needs to remain as-is to ensure reliable feeding.

The most predictable thing about steel shot is its unpredictability. You simply have to pattern your gun with the specific load you will be shooting. Some guns will throw full choke patterns with improved cylinder chokes installed with certain ammo. Some guns will actually need a full choke to throw full choke patterns with certain ammo.

Have you considered other non-toxic shot? There are far better choices than steel these days. Hell, I even found one that is safe to shoot "bare" in muzzleloaders. It's made by Ballistic Products; they call it their "ITX" shot.

ITX Original-10-ballisticproducts.com

I'll be using it this season in my side by side 10 gauge double muzzle loader. I'm not sure if it's available in loaded ammo, but there is plenty of bismuth, tungsten, and others available that do far better than steel.

[sc_rufctr]

I'm an expert on lawn furniture...

The wicker stuff is the best but don't buy the cheap plastic imitation stuff. (The plastic can get powdery in the sun) If you buy right it will last a life time!
Weird I know but I love the creaking sound it makes.

[legion]

You can buy choke tubes rated for steel and hevi (bismuth-antimony) shot.

[911boost]

I like the powder coated aluminum lawn stuff. Buy a nice outdoor rated box to store the annoying cushions in, or just don't get any. But buy the nicer expensive stuff from a lawn or place.

Mmmmmmmmm sand hill crane, yummy. Steak of the sky.

[rwest]

Gonna be real hard to find lawn furniture that will hold up to all that firepower!

[DerkPerk]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

If you remove the screw-on cap on the end of the magazine tube to remove the barrel, you will notice a wooden plug at that forward end of the magazine. Removing that will provide the magazine capacity you desire. It will also render your gun illegal to hunt migratory waterfowl, as others have mentioned. The green plug you can see through the loading port, at the aft end of the magazine, has nothing to do with magazine capacity and needs to remain as-is to ensure reliable feeding...

Remington uses green plastic plugs in the mag. Vash, as mentioned above, leave the plug in.

I'd recommended #2 steel shot with an improved cylinder choke tube for cranes.
When we hunt geese in Canada, we get a crack now and again on cranes and 2's are more than enough to knock them down. Be sure to head shoot them, they are mean with a broken wing...



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[dedbird]

Originally Posted by id10t

Mag should only hold 2 rounds for migratory game (fed law).

one in the chamber and 2 in the mag for migratory.

[vash]

Again. W green plug in. I can only load one in the chamber; one in the tube

Grand total TWO. this is with 3" shells

[id10t]

Originally Posted by vash

Again. W green plug in. I can only load one in the chamber; one in the tube

Grand total TWO. this is with 3" shells

green plug is likely the follower. Unscrew the mag cap at the end of the tube and turn the gun upside down and shake

Make a replacement plug the proper length with a dowel or pencil - but make sure you can't get 3 short(er) shells in there