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stomachmonkey 09-29-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Wilson (Post 9756668)

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I’ve had the front tub checked out by a professional, and everything is fine, and the car aligned, as it should, on a rack.
Nice wordplay.

Sounds like, "I had the front tub, the part that was welded on, checked out...."

Surely that professional would have noticed the front clip issue and informed him, unless he's not as professional as professional typically implies.

Curious if that pro does PPI's in his shop?

bpu699 09-29-2017 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 9756628)
Not in the past 2-3 years you haven't.

Your right, it was 4-5 years ago... I didn't think prices went up that much last 3-4 years? Thought they were flat.

I only track 930's, and they seem to have gone down, figured everything else went down a bit too...

My apologies of that's way off...

motion 09-29-2017 01:17 PM

So, is it fair to say that a $35K 964 coupe with 187,000 miles is priced well below market value? If that's the case, I don't believe the buyer should expect a pristine car with no issues.

verticalflight 09-29-2017 01:20 PM

https://i.imgur.com/MEiv9PQ.png

bpu699 09-29-2017 01:25 PM

That's not a prepurchase inspection sheet... that's the same inspection my Toyota dealer does during an oil change... pretty much exactly the same form... Its looking for any due maintenance.

Maybe the guy doing the inspection had no idea what he was doing? A kid?

The inspection report, is technically truthful, as it doesn't address any of the critical issues...

Most guys want a leak down, and collision check. That's the big stuff. I could care less if a lightbulb is out...

My last pre-purchase inspection was $675.

RANDY P 09-29-2017 01:28 PM

+1- what a joke of a form.

Lied thru omission.

rjp

verticalflight 09-29-2017 01:30 PM

Strange thing is I only received this after the service, during the service I had purchased a PPI based on time, and they billed me 2 hours of inspection time.

I agree the shop did not do the right thing here, and they agreed and even have stopped doing them now.

stomachmonkey 09-29-2017 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bpu699 (Post 9756723)
That's not a prepurchase inspection sheet... that's the same inspection my Toyota dealer does during an oil change... pretty much exactly the same form... Its looking for any due maintenance

Exactly, that's the one they use to get your wife to buy their $800 air filter and tranny flush.

WPOZZZ 09-29-2017 02:31 PM

How did the tech know there were 2 sets of wheels, as noted in his comments?

onewhippedpuppy 09-29-2017 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bpu699 (Post 9756723)
That's not a prepurchase inspection sheet... that's the same inspection my Toyota dealer does during an oil change... pretty much exactly the same form... Its looking for any due maintenance.

Maybe the guy doing the inspection had no idea what he was doing? A kid?

The inspection report, is technically truthful, as it doesn't address any of the critical issues...

Most guys want a leak down, and collision check. That's the big stuff. I could care less if a lightbulb is out...

My last pre-purchase inspection was $675.

Yup, definitely not a PPI. A good PPI will be pages of notes and measurements, and many include photos as well. Who did that, Jiffy Lube?

verticalflight 09-29-2017 02:38 PM

I think the seller dropped them off

BTW the hood emblem fell off yesterday, the latch for hood doesn't work, the passenger door won't open now, and the battery is not mounted and is about to break the ground cable.

onewhippedpuppy 09-29-2017 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 9756702)
Nice wordplay.

Sounds like, "I had the front tub, the part that was welded on, checked out...."

Surely that professional would have noticed the front clip issue and informed him, unless he's not as professional as professional typically implies.

Curious if that pro does PPI's in his shop?

If this is in fact the car, I assume salvage title? If so, the buyer should have done a LOT more digging. Again, not that it absolves the seller of being honest, but you should do a lot more research on a salvage title car.

bpu699 09-29-2017 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by verticalflight (Post 9756823)
I think the seller dropped them off

BTW the hood emblem fell off yesterday, the latch for hood doesn't work, the passenger door won't open now, and the battery is not mounted and is about to break the ground cable.

You are offering to accept a loss from your prior post...

Would it be plausible to just spend $5k and fix the car? You lose the money either way...

If the car truly had a full engine rebuild, that has a lot of value (assuming it was done right). Contact whomever did the engine rebuild, verify it.

With a full engine rebuild, that car is worth a bunch more than I originally (pessimistically) thought. A good rebuild will run $5000-8000 in parts (as I am right now learning...)...

Any more info on the frame work? Thats a big issue... might be a huge hurdle to cross. The rest, seems fixable...

No one asked so I will... where is the seller on this? No comments? Surely he saw the posts... or not?

verticalflight 09-29-2017 02:54 PM

Not a salvage title
Seller told me a parking lot bumper bender

yellowperil 09-29-2017 02:55 PM

A lot of things don't add up in this story.

stomachmonkey 09-29-2017 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9756828)
If this is in fact the car, I assume salvage title? If so, the buyer should have done a LOT more digging. Again, not that it absolves the seller of being honest, but you should do a lot more research on a salvage title car.

If it's the car posted above it's claimed it was an "off road" accident.

I read that as either local amateur rally or some sort of DE track day event that PO's insurance would not have covered and that PO may have had deep enough pockets or skill to repair in order to dump and retain max value.

So, nonins claim, no salvage title.

bpu699 09-29-2017 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by verticalflight (Post 9756842)
Not a salvage title
Seller told me a parking lot bumper bender

You mentioned posting pictures today?

Neilk 10-01-2017 10:43 AM

Does Motor Meister have an east coast franchise?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1504460417.jpg

Red fan!

That PPI sheet is funny.

wdfifteen 10-01-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 9756711)
So, is it fair to say that a $35K 964 coupe with 187,000 miles is priced well below market value? If that's the case, I don't believe the buyer should expect a pristine car with no issues.

No, but he should expect an honest PPI listing the car's actual flaws.

stomachmonkey 10-01-2017 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 9758886)
No, but he should expect an honest PPI listing the car's actual flaws.

Pretty much.

I got a good deal on my car.

It had cosmetic issues but was mechanically sound.

Had the opposite been true it would very likely would have been no where near the same good deal.

Regardless of what he paid, buyer was not offorded the choice on exactly what his ultimate cost would be.


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