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rattlsnak 10-16-2017 06:39 PM

Cat... What kind to get?
 
Wife wants to get a cat. I grew up with them and love them and would have no problem going to the local pound and picking one up. The issue is, she needs a hypo allergenic breed. Well, that's fine, but we also want a very loving/friendly/don't scratch me if i touch you/ kind of cat also. We also travel every so often so it will be left alone for 2-3 days at a time a few times a year.

What breeds do you guys recommend? We do want a 'normal' looking cat if that makes sense. So PLEASE do not suggest or post pictures of the evil looking hairless cat breed!

She is thinking about a Russian Blue.. And aren't Siamese cats hypo also? But I've heard they are, well, quirky..

And male or female?

Thoughts?

Craig T 10-16-2017 06:53 PM

Don't do it! Talk her into a dog before it's too late and your life it's ruined by an evil feline.

There are hypo-allergen small breeds:

Poodle
Maltese
Miniature Schnauzer
Brussels Griffan

dad911 10-16-2017 06:57 PM

wheaten terrier ;)

rattlsnak 10-16-2017 07:05 PM

Dogs drool, cats rule!! I'm not a dog fan myself. Too much upkeep... Our lifestyle isn't conducive to owning a dog anyway..

hcoles 10-16-2017 07:05 PM

Be aware that very often cats you get at a pound/etc. have a particular serious disease. My son got two very nice young cats recently. They had to put one down and the other one is starting to not do very well. So far they have spent $4k and probably both will not make it. This is after they both got an early diagnosis and treatment. I can get the name of the disease if you want. IMHO cats have a good ratio of love/entertainment out per work put in.

If you want your cat to be healthy keep it inside. If you like sick and injured cat drama and vet bills then let it go out.

wdfifteen 10-16-2017 07:09 PM

I've had a Burmese and a Siamese. The Siamese was not warm and friendly - aloof even for a cat. The Burmese was very friendly. The Siamese could jump onto a mantle packed with delicate crystal and not break a thing. Let the Burmese into the room and every piece would be shattered in 5 minutes.

Cooper911SC 10-16-2017 07:10 PM

Get a domestic short hair orange tabby. Trust me. 😉

Plan to bath the cat or have it groomed every couple of weeks if your wife is really allergic.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1508209688.jpg

The baby is a month and a half, kitten is 4 months.

Our family had tabby’s growing up, wife and I have had 3 now. All have been friendly lap lover cats.

Good luck with your search. 😸

Evans, Marv 10-16-2017 07:14 PM

Years ago my girlfriend got a nice cat from the Cat Protection Society. It supposedly had its shots for whatever cats get shots for. When the cat was a couple of years old, it got a mouth infection. Took it to the vet, got antibiotics & the infection went away. A month later it got a round swelling sort of boil on its chin. This time the vet tested it for feline leukemia which came back positive. Had to have it put to sleep. After that I never trusted any of those places again. I didn't know there were hypo allergenic breeds of cats. One of the best cats I ever had was one I got from a junk yard.

Tervuren 10-16-2017 07:14 PM

Washed cat vs unwashed cat, might make a difference.

I know it did when my brother had a dog.

Crowbob 10-16-2017 07:16 PM

Did that cat leave that kid on the porch for you?




(It's a JOKE!)

stomachmonkey 10-16-2017 07:19 PM

Not unlike dogs, purebred cats can come with breed specific issues.

Go to a shelter and get one that needs a home.

Your Siamese, Tonks, Balinese, basically the Asian breeds, can be "chatty".

Sort of like living with a crying infant 24/7.

Can make for a long 10-15 years.

wdfifteen 10-16-2017 07:21 PM

I grew up on a farm where the cats were just working livestock, keeping the rodent population down. I was well into my 20s before a girlfriend convinced me it was OK to let a cat in the house.
We filtered milk through cotton discs about 6" in diameter and 1/8" thick. We tossed them in the trash after every milking and the damn cats would drag the milk soaked discs out and eat them. It wasn't unusual to see a cat walking around with part of one of these things sticking out of his butt. Sometimes they wouldn't pass and the cat died. Whenever a cat died a new one would appear in a few days. They seemed to sense the vacancy.

vash 10-16-2017 07:39 PM

Grey tabby. Aka American standard. They are all the nicest damn cats. Almost too friendly. Great mousers as well. But be careful what you wish for; mine is always in my face. Too friendly can get bothersome.

I hope mine is the last cat. They are not all easy. There is rarely an awesome spot in a home for the litter box.

drkshdw 10-16-2017 08:01 PM

Lynx point siamese (a fancy name for a tabby/siamese cross). I've got two and they are more like dogs than cats. They are both leash trained, sleep at the end of the bed all through the night, know exactly when feeding time is and won't let you forget it, are fine with being home alone but will greet you at the door when you come home and are affectionate without being in your face all the time.

Definitely get a male over a female. Girl cats are temperamental and can be *****y. Males are much more easy going and more likely to just go with the flow without an attitude attached.

Whatever you do, if you get a boy cat, clip it before it starts marking. If you do, he wont. Females on the other hand can even if they are fixed. Especially if they are in a boy cat/girl cat household. It's a dominance thing and once it starts, you can't stop it.

hcoles 10-16-2017 08:03 PM

I also suggest a short hair cat. We have a long hair cat and cat hair seems to be everywhere 24/7 even soon after vacuuming the house. My son brought the cat home after someone threw it out of a car to get rid of it over at the school. Best cat ever - not sick one day in 17 years - knock on wood.

WPOZZZ 10-16-2017 08:36 PM

My baby was a red Somali. She was the sweetest cat with the sweetest voice. She would sleep with me in my bed, and wouldn't leave me when I was really sick. She was really smart, too. However, she could be vindictive/protective. When my sister would come over, Pepsi would play with her. When my sister yelled at me, Pepsi sat on her lap then let loose with her pee. :D She did that to my sister a few times. lol She was rather vain, and would hide after I gave her her weekly bath. She would only come out after her fur was completely dry and she was pretty again!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/8c...607d02982c.jpg

http://www.catsofaustralia.com/image...aulynphoto.jpg

If you want a short hair version, get an Abyssinian. They look like baby mountain lions.

http://animalsadda.com/wp-content/up...ian-Cats-3.jpg

PorscheGAL 10-17-2017 02:35 AM

Ragdoll- Wonderful personalities. Here are ours, Plato and Caesar.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1508235980.JPG
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DanielDudley 10-17-2017 02:39 AM

I can't have indoor cats. Way too sensitive to the cats and the litter box. SOme cats are much worse than others, and cats also have a scent gland that people can't even smell that causes a lot of problems for some people. The gland is for marking purposes.

Some people's cats are so bad that I can't be in their house for 10 minutes, other people have cats that almost don't bother me at all. It has very little to do with housekeeping. Even if you don't directly react to a cat, they can stress the systems of people who have allergies/sensitivities.

When the cats moved out, my asthma went away. I never sneezed or noticed a problem with them. I also stopped getting pneumonia and or bronchitis at least once a year.
I love cats, really love them. Be aware that not everyone can tolerate them in the home, even a clean home.

KFC911 10-17-2017 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PorscheGAL (Post 9779265)

Top cat even reads Dr. Seuss :)

astrochex 10-17-2017 03:03 AM

Russian Blues are gorgeous cats!

We have a pair of American Shorthairs that were rescues. My wife has pet allergies but they do not incite the symptoms.

Have fun with your search.

mattdavis11 10-17-2017 03:34 AM

Get one that is trainable. There's nothing better than a cat that can fetch and loves lasers!

Porsche-O-Phile 10-17-2017 03:36 AM

Talk to the Humane Society or your local chapter of the ASPCA - they’re generally very helpful and are both wonderful organizations.

I have three and would echo the above - awesome pets, loads of fun, great with kids, entertaining, clean and (relatively) low maintenance. As with any pet they can become a big responsibility (plan for their health care, you need to plan how they’ll be cared for if you go on vacation, etc. though they typically fare much better than dogs in this regard and can do fine for a few days if provided food, water, warmth, entertainment / toys). They typically don’t do cars too well but Your mileage may vary... I’ve known a couple of people whose cats loved to ride with them.

All-in-all fantastic companions. They’ll choose you. Just walk through a shelter and spend a little time.

I keep mine exclusively indoors and it has been great for me and them - no worries about cars, stray dogs, hawks, owls, coyotes, ticks and other disease-carriers, etc. Yes, I worry about “holding back their instincts” but I have enough space where they’ve got enough territory to patrol and things (mice) to occasionally catch - the benefits outweigh the costs. Statistically indoor cats live a lot longer. Talk with a vet...

They can melt your heart.

My current clan at La Casa de los Muchos Gatos (doing another one of the things they do best ...):

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1508240291.jpg

Black Cats Matter

Mark Henry 10-17-2017 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 9779109)
Dogs drool, cats rule!! I'm not a dog fan myself. Too much upkeep... Our lifestyle isn't conducive to owning a dog anyway..

I've had both cat's and dog's. I love my pooch, great dog, rescue, border collie mix but when she's gone I won't have another.
Too much work they are like a young kid and we like to RV so a dog is a PITA when you want to go into attractions, etc.

Cat's get an auto feeder and leave the toilet seat up and you can go away for weeks at a time.

All the purebreds you take the chance of getting into a behavior or vet bill nightmare. you have to watch for kitten mills where they breed siblings, makes for a cat with health issues that goes bat ship crazy as it gets older.
My mom used to breed Siamese, she had some great cats, but one was totally bonkers.
That was back in the 70's and she used to get $250+ a kitten back then.
We've had the best luck with rescue cats, $80 fixed from the local shelter.

Really no such thing as a hypo cat, any short hair would work.

RKDinOKC 10-17-2017 06:12 AM

Grew up with Siamese and raising kittens. They were, well, cats. After that family of cats died out my brother brought my mom a siamese. It was okay as a kitten then went nuts and wouldn't let anyone get close to it. Got 3 other siamese after that and they were all the same, loving kittens, then turning into solitary touch me nots. Got a rescue cat in that mix and it was a good cat, but spent most of it's time outside. Seemed like it only came inside to use the litter box.

Tried to toilet train our last cat. It was going really well with one of those training trays. Then elderly Mom put the tray on the toilet with the lid closed once. The cat jumped up there, it slid off the cat paniced. Ended up with litter and poop everywhere in the bathroom. Cat refused to use even a little box after that. We gave the cat away to because our house had become the little box. It lives in a barn now.

In my 20's I got a Golden Retriever. She was so smart, would stay right at my side and only do what I told her was okay. She even used the restroom when and where I said. Took her everywhere with me and without a leash. Even places that said no pets, just showed how well she behaved. Better than a service dog because she was completely off leash. She was more like an appendage than a dog. She lived 18 years and I was heartbroken when she passed. Have not been without a golden since though not nearly as smart. I do have a new puppy with a lot of promise though.

berettafan 10-17-2017 06:33 AM

recently read a study that indicated immunotherapy is considerably more effective for cat allergies than dog allergies.

unclebilly 10-17-2017 07:08 AM

We have some cats on our farm.

The oldest cat, we rescued from a landlord where the tenants moved out and left the cat. The poor guy was starved and was skin and bones. He is an orange tabby that was declawed on all 4 corners and a fairly nice affectionate cat. He gets along well with dogs. He has been a survivor. He catches mice, birds, and voles.

We also have barn cats, SPCA rescues. The first 2 were OK, one was caught by a coyote after about a year. The other, a huge white cat, lasted until about a year ago when a neighbor's dog chased him into a contractor's truck. We never got him back. This was him after he snuck into my daughter's closet...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1508252848.jpg

Last winter, we adopted another all white barn cat from the SPCA. This guy got put into the barn cat program because he bit people at the shelter. He would get over stimulated, purr and purr and then bite... hard. He has bit me a few times but is a really nice cat, very affectionate, goes for walks, tolerates our dog, but he fights with the orange cat.

Steve Carlton 10-17-2017 07:24 AM

I'm not aware of any cats being allergy friendly. I've become quite allergic to them, myself and would never get one again. To me, the best cat on the planet is a Burmese. Sort of like a Siamese without the whining, loaded with personality. I had a great one, Wheatie. He was always near me or on me. I miss him to this day.

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86 ssinit 10-17-2017 07:42 AM

My two cents. I was a cat person for years have had six and still have one. Only two that was truly domesticated were a bluePersian and a Himalayan. The blue I bought from a breeder. Great cat was very dog like played fetch met me at the door.... All the rest and the one I have now were just typical cats. Cats are pretty much hit or miss. Most kittens you get are from strays so there not really domesticated and as they get older they can be disasters in the house. They may use there litter pail every day and than one day just stop and pee all over your house. As for hypoallergenic I had no idea there were any cats that are hypoallergenic. Dogs are better get a small dog from a breeder. Someone who has been breading through the AKC for years and there are reviews from previous buyers. Same if you do buy a cat read reviews. No reviews on strays from a shelter it’s just a crap shoot.

86 ssinit 10-17-2017 07:49 AM

As for allergies sometimes when you own a cat your body adjusts to the cat and your allergies stop. That’s what happens with me I can live with the one I have but can’t stay in a house with cats I’m very allergic.

sc_rufctr 10-17-2017 08:28 AM

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SCadaddle 10-17-2017 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcoles (Post 9779110)
Be aware that very often cats you get at a pound/etc. have a particular serious disease. My son got two very nice young cats recently. They had to put one down and the other one is starting to not do very well. So far they have spent $4k and probably both will not make it. This is after they both got an early diagnosis and treatment. I can get the name of the disease if you want. IMHO cats have a good ratio of love/entertainment out per work put in.

If you want your cat to be healthy keep it inside. If you like sick and injured cat drama and vet bills then let it go out.


Let me introduce myself: I am a single white male, smoker in my mid 50's, NO health insurance and I just happen to be up for adoption. I'll even supply my pedigree from Ancestry.com if that will help close the deal. :D

Reiver 10-17-2017 09:02 AM

Smoked...the jerky kind is too tough.

TheMentat 10-17-2017 09:11 AM

I'll second the Abyssinian...

I've had them since I was a kid (until my allergic wife got into the picture). They have extremely outgoing personalities.

Kinda like dogs, but are able to take care of themselves!

scottmandue 10-17-2017 09:22 AM

Another cat person, also like the Asian cats... yes they are chatty but never had a problem with one going on and on... matter of fact I thought it was cool we could have conversations.
Probably my favorite was a big orange/white Tabby.
Never had a problem with a pound cat but my parents had cats and I have always had cats so when I go to the pound I don't just pick out a pretty one. I look for a healthy appearance and a friendly demeanor, I get it out of the cage and press it to my ear and listen to its breathing and heart beat, then examine it's ears/nose/mouth/teeth.
One lady looked at me funny and asked if I was a Vet.
But hey, you should get a PPI if you are going to buy a car right?

And people are allergic to cat saliva not cat hair, so maybe the bath thing would help. but start them early, Bathing a full grown cat that is not used to it is no fun (and may require welding gloves).

widebody911 10-17-2017 09:34 AM

My recommendation is a non-purebred mongrel kitten. Rescuing an animal from the pound is a noble endeavor, but we always seem to get behaviorally-defective examples.

Oracle 10-17-2017 09:46 AM

We had a hypo-allergenic cat without knowing.. (my son is allergic to cats but he was fine with ours).

What you want is the one with the lowest Fel d 1 Level:
https://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2015/08/21/10-hypoallergenic-cat-breeds.aspx

In our case our cat was a Birman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birman

stomachmonkey 10-17-2017 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9779710)
Another cat person, also like the Asian cats... yes they are chatty but never had a problem with one going on and on... matter of fact I thought it was cool we could have conversations.

My Tonk, Maximillian, was a horror show. Awesome cat, loved him but he just never shut up. People would call on the phone and ask "who's over with a newborn"

Sometimes he would not come inside before bedtime and the neighbors would call at 3 AM "....get that F'n cat inside....

He would literally wake the whole block.

We used to sleep with earplugs.

I've got one now, she screams, she will do crap like leave the room you are both in, go to the farthest part of the house and scream bloody murder

She does not want attention, as in petting or anything, she wants you to acknowledge she exists and worship her.

That one is a Diva

RM512 10-17-2017 09:56 AM

We've had cats for years, all kinds. Abyssinian was the most friendly. But by far the best cats have been the rescue's. They seem to sense you've helped them out of a jam!!

stomachmonkey 10-17-2017 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86 ssinit (Post 9779581)
As for allergies sometimes when you own a cat your body adjusts to the cat and your allergies stop. That’s what happens with me I can live with the one I have but can’t stay in a house with cats I’m very allergic.

I have found this to be true of people who are allergic but get a kitten.

They remain allergic to all other cats except their own.

My theory is kittens can still induce allergic reactions but with far less severity than an adult and their owners are able to build up a tolerance as the cat grows /matures.

Steve Carlton 10-17-2017 10:11 AM

When my cat died, my allergies improved dramatically.


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