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M.D. Holloway 11-16-2017 07:23 PM

The List is Growing on Sexual Inappropriate Behavior
 
It started years ago with Gary Hart...maybe earlier. Clinton, Cosby, Spacey, Louis CK, Roy Moore. Who is next?

Sarah Silverman provided an interesting comment on CK:

Quote:

You’ve probably heard what’s happening in the news recently regarding sexual assault, especially in the entertainment industry. And to be clear, it’s not just Hollywood, it’s everywhere — like this stuff happens in bakeries, too. It’s just not getting written up in The New York Times. This recent calling out of sexual assault has been a long time coming. It’s good. It’s like cutting out tumors. It’s messy and it’s complicated and it is going to hurt, but it’s necessary, and we’ll all be healthier for it. And it sucks, and some of our heroes will be taken down, and we will discover bad things about people we like, or in some cases, people we love. Let’s just say it. I’m talking about Louis. And I’ve of course been asked to comment, and in full honesty, I really really really don’t want to. I wish I could sit this one out. But then I remembered something I said on this very show, that if it’s mentionable, it’s manageable. So I’m going to address the elephant masturbating in the room. And full disclosure, I’m still processing all this ****. But here’s where I’m at on it as of this moment. It could change tomorrow, and if it does, I will keep you posted. One of my best friends of over 25 years, Louis C. K., masturbated in front of women. He wielded his power with women in f*cked up ways, sometimes to the point where they left comedy entirely. I could couch this with heartwarming stories of our friendship and what a great dad he is — but that’s totally irrelevant, isn’t it? Yes, it is. It’s a real mind f*ck, you know, because I love Louis. But Louis did these things. Both of those statements are true, so I just keep asking myself, “Can you love someone who did bad things? Can you still love them?” I can mull that over later, certainly, because the only people that matter right now are the victims. They are victims, and they’re victims because of something he did. So I hope it’s okay if I am at once very angry for the women he wronged and the culture that enabled it, and also sad, because he’s my friend. But I believe with all my heart that this moment in time is essential. It’s vital that people are held accountable for their actions, no matter who they are. We need to be better. We will be better. I can’t f*cking wait to be better.
Can you list any others going down?

tabs 11-16-2017 07:40 PM

I never cared for Louis ck..never thought he was funny nor clever. So if I never hear from him again no loss.

daepp 11-16-2017 07:45 PM

Al Franken is a pig!

M.D. Holloway 11-16-2017 07:48 PM

I think that there is a long long line of men in politics, Hollywood, and in business that are exactly like this. Over the next several months and hopefully from now on, these guys will be called out on it.

tabs 11-16-2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by daepp (Post 9817694)
Al Franken is a pig!

So what are his sexually perverse proclitivities? The salacious want to know.

varmint 11-16-2017 08:31 PM

Ironic.

Sara Silverman would be serving pancakes in Boise if she hadn’t done jimmy kimmel.

island911 11-16-2017 08:58 PM

Seems the defn of sexual predator is sliding

It's like everyone wants to claim they are a victim.

sc_rufctr 11-16-2017 09:37 PM

Sylvester Stallone!

Not surprised to be honest.

Sylvester Stallone accused of forcing teen into threesome | Daily Mail Online

Bill Douglas 11-16-2017 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9817760)
Sylvester Stallone!

Not surprised to be honest.

Umm, a bit like the others I suspect, The 70s and 80s being such a "man's world" coming back to haunt them.

livi 11-16-2017 10:08 PM

Here in the global Mecca of PK its become an epidemic. Every other day there is a new uprise on the internet from another group. Personally I believe this is the start of a much larger movement where finally the women will take power away from men. Not by brute force, but by shaming, outing and law. From way back in time (still in place in muslim countries where women are obliged to cover themselves) it was the privilige of a man to choose woman. Now it will be the other way around. No man will dare to make any move on a woman without a written conscent for fear of being accused. Men will become the passive part. Sitting quitely in the back. Waiting for a female to approach. Leather and whips may come into faschion. And some men may like that. :D

Oh well. Just a friday morning rant. Almost whisky time.

svandamme 11-16-2017 10:20 PM

Like everybody seems to have Sexually inappropriated somebody or something these days but me.. I neither have or have been sexually inappropriated at all. :rolleyes:


I feel left out.

livi 11-16-2017 10:25 PM

Hehe I know what you mean. Why do the woman get all the harassment. :D

svandamme 11-16-2017 11:19 PM

says the tripple (?) married Flufmeister

livi 11-17-2017 12:24 AM

Suddenly I feel depressed. :D

Arizona_928 11-17-2017 12:43 AM

It's how that business works. Suddenly a change in ethics reveals the world for what it is... Not surprised.
End game? Equality, Woman's rights, Equal opportunity? No I think these are more sinister accusations to burn individuals then to fix a bigger problem.

RKDinOKC 11-17-2017 01:53 AM

Almost got fired, got sent home for a week without pay, and had to go to a shrink for sensitivity training for mentioning that the wound care specialist had to do a skin graft on my foot after stepping on a nail. And that I had to sign a waiver because skin grafts were made from foreskin. The chick made a statement that i had said they filled the holes in my foot with dead baby penises. And that that was sexual harassment and sexual innuendo.

As far as I am concerned that **** has gone way too far when you can't even use the proper clinical terms to tell someone about a medical procedure. And if she didn't want to hear about a medical procedure, why the heck didn't she just say she didn't like hearing about medical stuff?

Arizona_928 11-17-2017 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKDinOKC (Post 9817821)
Almost got fired, got sent home for a week without pay, and had to go to a shrink for sensitivity training for mentioning that the wound care specialist had to do a skin graft on my foot after stepping on a nail. And that I had to sign a waiver because skin grafts were made from foreskin. The chick made a statement that i had said they filled the holes in my foot with dead baby penises. And that that was sexual harassment and sexual innuendo.

As far as I am concerned that **** has gone way too far when you can't even use the proper clinical terms to tell someone about a medical procedure. And if she didn't want to hear about a medical procedure, why the heck didn't she just say she didn't like hearing about medical stuff?

I remember that ****. Really ****ed up situation.

DanielDudley 11-17-2017 03:15 AM

The payment for the smell of food is the sound of money. If someone was truly abused, that is awful, and needs to be addressed. If you were made uncomfortable, you should get a shrink.

A lot of payback going on here, but let's face it, some of this stuff is truly weird. What is interesting is that some men are owning up, and some are trying to slide by.

DanielDudley 11-17-2017 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKDinOKC (Post 9817821)
Almost got fired, got sent home for a week without pay, and had to go to a shrink for sensitivity training for mentioning that the wound care specialist had to do a skin graft on my foot after stepping on a nail. And that I had to sign a waiver because skin grafts were made from foreskin. The chick made a statement that i had said they filled the holes in my foot with dead baby penises. And that that was sexual harassment and sexual innuendo.

As far as I am concerned that **** has gone way too far when you can't even use the proper clinical terms to tell someone about a medical procedure. And if she didn't want to hear about a medical procedure, why the heck didn't she just say she didn't like hearing about medical stuff?


True enough, but you won't do it again in any case. Assuming everyone is a mature adult is a mistake, but it is easy to forget.

greglepore 11-17-2017 03:55 AM

Silverman's comments are completely on point with regard to her friend CK. Al Franken otoh seems as much a victim of a change in mores and his own exuberance. There is a difference between "sexual assault" and offensive inappropriate misbehavior. Isn't either actual genital misconduct or wielding power in an attempt to coerce an "element of the crime"?

wdfifteen 11-17-2017 04:02 AM

^^
Spot on Greg.

Seahawk 11-17-2017 04:09 AM

Charlie Sheen was wrong. You don't pay them to leave, you pay them to be quiet.

What the good Senator did was a crime, fellas. Also, he was in a position of power and abused that privilege..."practice the kiss".

UFB.

BTW, who wants to bet me $10 bucks this won't be the last chapter in Franken's "inappropriate behavior".

ckelly78z 11-17-2017 04:44 AM

Know your audience people ! My co-workers and I have been inappropriate to each other for many years now, but it's all in good fun, and we keep our mouths shut around other people.....no touching though !

MBAtarga 11-17-2017 05:02 AM

Paul - I'm not siding with Franken - I'm not a fan - but that incident occurred when he was a comedian - not a "politician."

Crowbob 11-17-2017 05:48 AM

But it did happen while Franken was Franken.

Until our society and culture figures out how to deal with the obvious hypocrisy involved in these instances of abuse/harassment/crudeness, or however each particular instance is defined, they will always be With us.

You can't pick up magazine, watch a movie or TV show, go to a concert or just about anywhere else and not be accosted by sexualization. It's everywhere and it's all the time. Sex sells, sex buys, sex promotes and sex controls.

What Franken was exposed to having done falls on the mild side of the spectrum of human behavior in our culture, IMO.

And I would propose that there's not one among us who haven't done something similar at some point in our lives. This is not to condone such boorishness. But until we somehow acknowledge the schizophrenic attitude about our sexualized culture and how we are bombarded with ambiguous messaging about sex and power every one of us is vulnerable to misinterpretations, lapses of judgement and the crossing of lines.

And it goes both ways. Men will pursue sex and women will manipulate that dynamic. So long as we each have our individual identities, moralities and social awarenesses somebody on all sides will be guilty of some kind of transgression.

Describing men as predators is as disengenuous as describing females as victims. Stir in a healthy dose of our current struggles with sexual 'self-identification', trans-sexualization and the confusion of law versus morality you will end up with rapist Presidents, prostitute Madonnas and everything in between.

red-beard 11-17-2017 07:22 AM

I give you...Silvio Berlusconi

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sc_rufctr 11-17-2017 07:39 AM

Silvio "Bunga Bunga" is a lech but somehow the Italians don't seem to mind.

Do you remember the porn star Ilona Staller? Stage name Cicciolina.
She was elected to the Italian parliament in 1987! :D

Seahawk 11-17-2017 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 9817919)
Paul - I'm not siding with Franken - I'm not a fan - but that incident occurred when he was a comedian - not a "politician."

I get all that and my comments were not directed at anyone here. The same excuse can be made for Trump: Trump was a douche when he aired the "grab some pussy" comment, not POTUS.

The breast grabbing is a simple physical manifestation of Franken's desire to dominate an attractive lesser light on a USO tour, as was the "practice kissing" shtick.

That is why there are laws in the military and government that protect those who are not in a position to defend themselves from bullies.

That is what I hate: He is a bully and a pussy.

red-beard 11-17-2017 08:15 AM

Does that make him a Pulley?

GH85Carrera 11-17-2017 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 9818131)
Does that make him a Pulley?

Nope, a dipstick.

widgeon13 11-17-2017 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9817890)
Charlie Sheen was wrong. You don't pay them to leave, you pay them to be quiet.

What the good Senator did was a crime, fellas. Also, he was in a position of power and abused that privilege..."practice the kiss".

UFB.

BTW, who wants to bet me $10 bucks this won't be the last chapter in Franken's "inappropriate behavior".

This behavior just demonstrates beyond a shadow of doubt that Al Franken and all his other abusers friends are completely devoid of character.

I like to think of character as how one behaves when no one else is looking.Simple as that.

I'm with Seahawk! Punch their freakin lights out!

pavulon 11-17-2017 09:19 AM

oops.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-lgbt-lawmaker-resigns-being-140200984.html

Seahawk 11-17-2017 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 9818194)

I don't belong to either of the two private political corporations, the Dems or Reps, so it brings me joy when an abuser of either party is outed - if the facts support the ouster.

varmint 11-17-2017 11:12 AM

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where would you draw the line in this case? to me it's a month scrubbing toilets sentence. not a career ruined.

Bob Kontak 11-17-2017 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKDinOKC (Post 9817821)
The chick made a statement that i had said they filled the holes in my foot with dead baby penises.

I remember this situation. I could understand if you got punched out a bit for being coarse or insensitive but it does not sound like a bridge to try to get into her pants.

ossiblue 11-17-2017 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 9818194)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9818308)
I don't belong to either of the two private political corporations, the Dems or Reps, so it brings me joy when an abuser of either party is outed - if the facts support the ouster.

Agree with Seahawk^^, I think. Being outed is one thing, being ousted is another. If facts support the outing, I'm all for it. If the outing leads to ouster, I'm all for it.

In this linked case, however, this doesn't appear to be an abuse case but rather one of an elected official being caught having sex in his office. It also happens to be sex with a man, but that really is irrelevant. If the lawmaker was single and the sex was with a woman, he still should resign as his conduct was unethical and inappropriate. But it's not sexual abuse, at least it hasn't been reported as such. The fact that his political stand was staunchly behind straight marriage and family values only adds hypocrisy to the situation, but adds nothing to the only real reason for his resignation.

He should have resigned, and he did resign.

Bob Kontak 11-17-2017 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ossiblue (Post 9818359)
but adds nothing to the only real reason for his resignation.

Don't get your meat where you get your bread. This saying was around long before the recent hub bub.

Side note. What would Darwin say about all this? There is a male predisposition to getting their genes into the gene pool.

RKDinOKC 11-17-2017 12:25 PM

Don't ever find yourself at work alone with ANYONE without at least 1 other person you trust to tell the truth.

john70t 11-17-2017 12:42 PM

PARF spills over to PPOT.
A natural consequence of the aniti-white-male media hate machine.

Everyone now needs to have a verified 24/7 constant live-streaming public video system operation in effect(with redundant backup sources) in order to prove they did not molest another person at a particular time.

What a world has now been created for us all....The blatant obtuse has become secondary to the theoretical.

BlueSkyJaunte 11-17-2017 12:46 PM

The "Pence Policy" is looking smarter and smarter every day, eh?

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Originally Posted by RKDinOKC (Post 9818422)
Don't ever find yourself at work alone with ANYONE without at least 1 other person you trust to tell the truth.



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