Question for the PP brain trust: Explosive removal

[Jim Bremner]

emersion in water?

[Willem Fick]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

Buy a bunch of shipping containers. Drill big holes in shipping containers. Stuff them full of this crap. Put shipping containers on 3rd rate container ship from 3rd world country. Pay crew to ensure that said containers are 'lost' in a storm in the mid atlantic. Profit.

(Just so no one gets their panties in a knot, I'm kidding.....)

Send them to me!

I'm in a third world country where labour is cheap and lead expensive!

[GWN7]

Not knowing anything about M6 I went to the net and found this:

"Explo Systems left 7,800 tons (7,100 metric tons) of M6 and 160 tons (145 metric tons) of clean-burning igniter at Camp Minden when the company went bankrupt in 2013.

Louisiana State Police had begun investigating the company in 2012, after the explosion in one of Explo’s leased bunkers and a nearby trailer shattered windows 4 miles (6 kilometers) away in Minden and created a 7,000-foot (2,130-meter) mushroom cloud and derailed 11 rail cars near the bunker.

The bunker had held about 62 tons (56 metric tons) of smokeless powder and the trailer had held about 12 tons (11 metric tons) of demilitarized M6, according to a news release from the U.S. Attorney’s Office."

https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southcentral/2017/12/20/474922.htm

It appears the safest way to dispose of the bags is to burn them. I know you said that it is not allowed but disposal in a commercial burner would be the safest way and would allow the recovery of the lead without contaminating the area. Not to mention the M6 can be set off by impact force. There is also the 160 tons (145 metric tons) of clean-burning igniter that is also there.

[Mark Howard]

GWN7 did indeed find the article that started it all. All the bulk M6 and CBI is gone, has been incinerated in a state of the art incinerator. The residue M6 is a di minimus amount in these bags. Other firms bidding proposed incineration of the bags but were refused.

[MBAtarga]

Originally Posted by Mark Howard

I like MBAs proposal, just need to find a mechanical company that could design the system.

I'm off to file a patent right now!

[dad911]

Originally Posted by Mark Howard

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My challenge involves conducting a 200% inspection of each bag, by hand, before they can be sent to the landfill. I’m trying to determine the most efficient way get inside the bags to inspect them. The bags are 18” long, about 6” diameter, and cut open on one end. .......

Put each bag over a tube, with a camera. 2 people monitor the video?

Does it make sense to throw them on a digital scale after inspection, in groups of 10 or 20, to double check?

[dad911]

Originally Posted by MBAtarga

Will you need to remove/recover the lead or does that go in the landfill as well?

I'd suggest low pressure/high volume air source available in front/above the worker. Worker opens bag and air source inflates the bag. Worker than plunges the bag over a cylindrical pipe/column essentially turning it inside out. Any pellets remaining drop out and below which can be collected in a basin which surrounds the pipe. This also leaves the lead foil (liner?) exposed/external if needed.

I missed that. Good idea. leaf blower or shop vac would likely do it, but noisy. I'd try a duct blower/bilge blower.

Or maybe zanick is closing out some eRAMs?

[fintstone]

The air system is a good idea. Build yourself a manifold from home depot parts like this:



except make it on a larger scale. Might be able to use PVC. or more expensive galvanized. Make each pipe coming off the main line the exact right size for a fairly snug fit on the bags so they inflate but do not blow off. Control the air with a valve. A worker puts a bag on each pipe coming off the manifold...could be very many at once. Inflate the bags and then turn off the air and vent it. Any M6 pellets will fall down into the main manifold when the air is removed. Remove the bags and use a quick burst of air to blow any pellets out if the main pipe. Repeat.

[herr_oberst]

Tell your workers that there's a trip to Tahiti and a brand new Ford F150 pickup for the person that finds the tiny token that you've hidden inside one of the bags. Got's to keep 'em motivated.

[MBAtarga]

So did you come up with a solution?

[John Rogers]

Did you try the GOEX or Hogdon companies as they are the black powder folks located in LA? If you were in AZ or NV you could take them out into the desert and set each tri-wall on fire, watch the bang then repeat.

[FPB111]

I worked for Hercules during the Vietnam war. We made military powders, M9 and other MIL spec powders + dynamite.
All dry powder handling operators had conductive shoes and all equipment had ground straps to preclude static caused explosions. The lights and other electrical equipment was outside of the building where possible inside everything was explosion proof. In drying houses the lights shined in through the windows.
Think about static if you use bags sliding over PVC.

[svandamme]

hire 10 foreigners that smoke.
Be elsewhere when they work.