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			I saw a slant the other day at Harbor Freight parking lot and I must say it looked pretty damn cool.  They look much better in person.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
				
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			I've always prefered the Kremer over the factory slantnoses. Something about the way it is more rounded. I think the livery helps it out.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I personally would not spend money to back-date a 911 and wouldn't consider purchasing a 911 that was back-dated.  
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	But .....Opinions vary. It's their car and their money. They can do whatever they want with it. (except sell it to me    )
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			I am in the middle of a backdate on an '89 chassis, the reasoning for me was that the earlier cars were lighter (those bumpers are heavy) and the car has a more elegant, delicate look. I have had a later car, Porsche did a great job of adapting the 911 to the 5 mph bumper standard, but it still made the car look fat.  
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			This is what I am playing (paying) with now.  Not a back date. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	My other pain in the ass project. That RUF bumper is coming off. Anyone want to buy it? I think its front and rear.  | 
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			Here's my backdate hotrod.  I did it two years ago.  All my fiends told me I was nuts, that I would lose my A$$ on a backdate Frankenstein.  One year from starting the project it was in Excellence Magazine, Total 911, and Esses. I sold it to a SpaceX executive for six figures. I used the profit to buy my 997 Turbo.  That backdate was the best thing I ever did. I don't really miss it.  The 997TT is much more functional. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			I've always drooled every time you post pics of that car Craig... 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 The R-Gruppe guys turned their nose up at me. The 911 Registry guys turned their nose up at my backdate as well. All the "purists" discounted it. Funny, it was lighter, faster, and handled better than any of the original 911s or RGroupe cars. I thank Magnus every day that I drive my free 997TT. He's the one who created the market outside of the purists. ...a market of enthusiasts more interested in a fun and pure Driving Experience then whether a car has the correct license plate bolts or is the original color. 
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			Pretty sure people were laughing at this guy too.  82 SC backdate $227k.             
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			@ CraigT, I totally get the 997 thing... Recently picked up a 997.2 Carrera S and its a helluv a car. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-porsche-911sc-4-2/ 
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			Ahh, for the days when these were just cars and people didn't build longhoods out of sc's just to flip them. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			No disrespect to anyone here, but the parade on BAT has become a bit much. That rusted out e28 M5 might get a bid from me yet. 
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			My opinion is that backdating is a fad that has passed. Some people are just hanging on too long. To each their own.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I still like the back dates to longhood-look.  IMO, the  early cars are still the best looking 911s, and if you can lighten an impact bumper car in the process of doing the backdate, it’s all good!
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I like the longnose look. It looks more integrated. I have a baby bumper car ('88) and I like the way it looks too, but it looks like what it is, a clunky modification of an integrated design. Once the various tails started appearing, Butzi's beautiful design became something else. Interesting in its own right, but not the tight, all of a piece design of the original 911. The slantnose was a further departure. Its shape worked as a race car because race cars are often compromises of design. But as a street car or a cab, no, never liked it.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			You know Greg, that damn green car of your has my heart beating a little faster every time I see those pics you posted.  Now that I have had chance at it, it will be done soon.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I'd love to take credit for Craig's build... 
		
	
		
	
			
			
				
					Craig, no insult intended. I'm cool with guys at the head of the parade. 
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