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vash 02-19-2018 07:30 AM

Plz double check me. Ordering toilets.
 
I’m about to drop some coin on a pair of TOTO thrones.

Both will be the Connect+ toilets with the corresponding butt-washers. I had an electrician put an outlet behind our current toilets. My wife’s wishes, not mine.

Anyways. I keep hearing 12” rough measurement. This is from the back wall to the toilets screws?

And it’s crazy; I can buy one-gallon flush toto’s !! I’m getting the 1.2 gallons. Hey I like bran muffins.

javadog 02-19-2018 07:38 AM

The typical toilet rough in dimensions are 12" from the rear wall and 18" from the side walls, to the center of the closet flange.

I've never had an electric toilet, so I'd advise checking their web site; I'm sure they have those dimensions.

I have always bought a Kohler, in the longer length, that will do a 3 gallon flush if you hold the lever down. Good enough for me...

GH85Carrera 02-19-2018 07:45 AM

Get the "Comfort height" toilets. When you are tired it is a Lot nicer to get up off of the throne. If my knee or legs are tired it is much easier.

cantdrv55 02-19-2018 07:48 AM

Comfort height bidets by Toto. That's what's next on our remodel list

javadog 02-19-2018 08:00 AM

Not to get to disgusting but those higher toilets are anatomically worse for you, health-wise.

stevej37 02-19-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9932299)
Get the "Comfort height" toilets. When you are tired it is a Lot nicer to get up off of the throne. If my knee or legs are tired it is much easier.

Absolutely get the comfort height. When I broke my femur last summer, the hardest thing for me to do was sitting and getting up from my standard height toilet! It really makes a difference.

vash 02-19-2018 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 9932324)
Not to get to disgusting but those higher toilets are anatomically worse for you, health-wise.

Agree. I can still go full nature squat. :). Jus sayin.

vash 02-19-2018 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 9932289)
The typical toilet rough in dimensions are 12" from the rear wall and 18" from the side walls, to the center of the closet flange.

I've never had an electric toilet, so I'd advise checking their web site; I'm sure they have those dimensions.

I have always bought a Kohler, in the longer length, that will do a 3 gallon flush if you hold the lever down. Good enough for me...

Thanks bud. The footprint is the same.

ckelly78z 02-19-2018 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 9932329)
Agree. I can still go full nature squat. :). Jus sayin.

Get the higher seat toilet, and install a set of adjustable stirrups (YeeHaw) for the hard squeeze....or a step stool for the better anotomically correct position.

GH85Carrera 02-19-2018 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 9932337)
Get the higher seat toilet, and install a set of adjustable stirrups (YeeHaw) for the hard squeeze....or a step stool for the better anotomically correct position.

Or just lean forward for the same position or bend at the waist.

Neilk 02-19-2018 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 9932324)
Not to get to disgusting but those higher toilets are anatomically worse for you, health-wise.

Or get a Squatty Potty!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1519062675.jpg

David 02-19-2018 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 9932324)
Not to get to disgusting but those higher toilets are anatomically worse for you, health-wise.

Agreed. I replaced a toilet a couple years ago and tried out the comfort toliets. Let's just say things don't come out as well. I stuck with the old tried and true normal height. Problem is it's hard to find one that's not comfort height.

masraum 02-19-2018 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 9932324)
Not to get to disgusting but those higher toilets are anatomically worse for you, health-wise.

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javadog 02-19-2018 10:24 AM

Jeebus, I'm sorry I brought it up...

cantdrv55 02-19-2018 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 9932412)

Costco has two pack of the squatty potty.

island911 02-19-2018 11:09 AM

So that's why women wear heels.

Noah930 02-19-2018 12:03 PM

As mentioned on the other thread, I am beyond thrilled with our Totos. In the month we've had them, not a single clog (and I've clogged many in my time). We bought 1.6 GPF models, off Amazon. No bidet/ fancy seat option, though. A little noisy on the refilling of the tank, but I can live with that. 12" rough in is most common, measured from wall to mounting bolts.

dad911 02-19-2018 02:12 PM

Toto sells 10, 12, and 14" toilets. It's the distance from the center of the drain, to the wall behind the toilet.

Neilk 02-19-2018 02:41 PM

One more thing. We have the fancy Toto washer toilet too, it sure is nice to have the spray cleaning on those days where your last meal didn’t go down so smoothly.

look 171 02-19-2018 03:33 PM

I always try to tell people to go with the standard height TOTO. The higher height was their handicap toilets. Measure your existing wall to the center of the toilet and buy the Toto according to that. Its rough dimension so if you are 1/2 off, its ok. THey also make a different length set back jsut in case if you screw up.

Wife's wish? Yeah right.;)

All the years I have done this, I have only installed one of those self cleaning toilet twice. First time was for a Chinese woman with her Japanese husband who let her do all the talking. The second was for a young Japanese couple from overseas.

Now you must tell me the secrete. IS toilet paper involved in this process:confused:. Of course I was temped to try the toilet we installed but that's wouldn't be fair to her for my workmen to inaugurate her brand new TOTO instead of the owners. So, do you wipe before the jet stream or after? You still gotta to wipe your ass from all that splashing. With what, toilet paper? It falls apart the minute it touches water. I am intruged.

dad911 02-19-2018 04:00 PM

look171 - warm air-dry built in..... https://washlet.totousa.com/how-it-works

vash 02-19-2018 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9933040)
I always try to tell people to go with the standard height TOTO. The higher height was their handicap toilets. Measure your existing wall to the center of the toilet and buy the Toto according to that. Its rough dimension so if you are 1/2 off, its ok. THey also make a different length set back jsut in case if you screw up.

Wife's wish? Yeah right.;)

All the years I have done this, I have only installed one of those self cleaning toilet twice. First time was for a Chinese woman with her Japanese husband who let her do all the talking. The second was for a young Japanese couple from overseas.

Now you must tell me the secrete. IS toilet paper involved in this process:confused:. Of course I was temped to try the toilet we installed but that's wouldn't be fair to her for my workmen to inaugurate her brand new TOTO instead of the owners. So, do you wipe before the jet stream or after? You still gotta to wipe your ass from all that splashing. With what, toilet paper? It falls apart the minute it touches water. I am intruged.

I stayed at a high end hotel in Tokyo. They had one. I just stared pushing buttons. It was exhilarating. And yes. I blotted dry w TZp

look 171 02-19-2018 09:35 PM

Cool, thanks guys.

Hey Vash, you no longer have to wash your hands after visiting the bathroom with that thing. I know you are a good cook, so I am ever at your house, I will not be offended or disgusted if you handle food after a bathroom visit without hand washing. Just so you know, I trust you that much

vash 02-20-2018 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9933446)
Cool, thanks guys.

Hey Vash, you no longer have to wash your hands after visiting the bathroom with that thing. I know you are a good cook, so I am ever at your house, I will not be offended or disgusted if you handle food after a bathroom visit without hand washing. Just so you know, I trust you that much

LOL..and gross.

warm water and soap..still and forever bud.

it's funny..if for some unforeseen reason, you get crap on your hands. let's call it baby crap, or dog crap..and not your own crap. you WILL go after it with water involved. you wont just go and get a piece of tissue and wipe it off. :) similar concept..i'm sure some OCD person will work some suds into the waterjet toilet thing.

now, all of Taiwan has the toilets. hell, every "good" hotel in Monterrey park has them. i balked when i started seeing them. they are odd. odd as in different.

and seriously, my wife wants them in both of our bathrooms. i am not thrilled at paying the cost of admission for a waterjet up the southern hemisphere. they are not cheap. that is gun money!!

look 171 02-20-2018 08:43 AM

Hirsch plumbing supply is where we get our stuff from and they have pretty good pricing on TOTOs over the years (beat internet pricing). I haven't bought a TOTO from the designer showrooms in a couple years. Check if you have one up there? Get your plumber friend to see if they can get you one at their discounted pricing. Maybe there are other plumbing supply houses that will work with you. Gun money? Hell man, anything that touches my ass has got to be good quality;). What do you use more, a toilet or guns:D?

I have never stayed in any of the hotels in Monterey Pk. I didn't know they are that advanced with their toilets in those places. There aren't too many fancy hotels there, mostly just motels. Where do you stay, the Hilton?

My wife's been to Taiwan (15-20 years ago). Maybe in the hotels they have those things but the bathrooms in many of the restaurants still has the hole with the grippy tile footprints on both side. Oh the horror, according to her.

911 Rod 02-20-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 9932502)
Agreed. I replaced a toilet a couple years ago and tried out the comfort toliets. Let's just say things don't come out as well. I stuck with the old tried and true normal height. Problem is it's hard to find one that's not comfort height.

I thought it was because I have been crapping at the same height all my life and things just don't work as well with the comfort height.

scottmandue 02-20-2018 02:33 PM

Just to confirm "comfort height" is an extra tall toilet? My (short Korean) wife has been using the squaty potty, me... not so much.
Matter of fact she gets pissed at how 'regular' I am. :D

sammyg2 02-20-2018 02:41 PM

Anyone else have a toto toilet seat that closes slow so it doan slam shut?
Pretty cool .....

Quote:

Product Overview
Designed with smart, innovative seat technology, the Toto SoftClose Elongated Closed Front Toilet Seat is specifically designed to eliminate slamming and reduce the risk of injury. Constructed of solid, high-impact plastic, the seat and lid utilize a built-in SoftClose hinge system, which lowers the seat down to the bowl gently and quietly. The seat is easy to clean and remains securely in place with durable molded bumpers, ensuring a comfortable experience every time
.

scottmandue 02-20-2018 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9933878)
Hirsch plumbing supply is where we get our stuff from and they have pretty good pricing on TOTOs over the years (beat internet pricing). I haven't bought a TOTO from the designer showrooms in a couple years. Check if you have one up there?

They have a branch close to me, to they sell to the general public?

look 171 02-20-2018 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9934423)
They have a branch close to me, to they sell to the general public?

They should, but all you need to do is tell them you want to open up a cash account and that you are a plumber. Make up a name like Scottie's plumbing and maintenance service and you should be good to go. If not, you get a different pricing.

If you don't feel comfortable doing it, let me know what you need and I can purchase it under mine or my plumber's account and you just pick it up there (at your location) and pay for it. It should work. I can only buy toilets and large items. I can't do that for you if you only need a tube spot or a length of copper pipe. Not much saving there..Come and think of it, I haven't used my account for ages there. My guys just order it and who knows what or who's account they use but we seem to get a pretty good price.

dan79brooklyn 02-20-2018 11:56 PM

Our tankless toilet in Japan with most of the bells and whistles was $3000.
My favorite features are the heated seat and auto flush.
The bidet stuff I hardly use but there is a heated butt drying feature if you don’t want to use any paper after the water jets. Takes a while to fully dry though.

petrolhead611 02-21-2018 02:44 AM

Just had our 2.5 bathrooms remodelled and fitted comfort height toilets in each one with soft close toilet seats(which are virtually standard issue now in the UK).
Also, in the en-suite bathroom, fitted a blue LED ceiling light on a separate switch for use at night, doesn't seem to wake up my wife when I open the door and doesn't wake me sufficiently to prevent me going back to sleep quickly, unlike the normal white ceiling lights would.(got the idea from a somewhat fancy hotel we stayed in recently)

hcoles 02-21-2018 05:53 AM

slightly OT - anyone using one of the wall-mount toilets? They can be mounted on a 2x4" wall and 2x6" wall. I'll bet it is better to have a 2x6" wall.

vash 02-21-2018 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hcoles (Post 9935137)
slightly OT - anyone using one of the wall-mount toilets? They can be mounted on a 2x4" wall and 2x6" wall. I'll bet it is better to have a 2x6" wall.

i actually had a long chat with the salesman about them. he said that is the proper way to get a toilet higher for an older person. major reconstruction i suppose. it would be awesome to swing a mop unhindered under there.

Noah930 02-21-2018 07:27 AM

"Comfort height" may be good for older folks or if you have some sort of injury, but I have little ones in the Noah household. The littlest one already has to arc it in (or get on his tippy toes) when he stands to pee. And his free throw percentage isn't 100%. So higher toilets aren't universally the best. Though being able to mop under a wall-mount may be a good alternative. Still, I'd always (irrationally) worry about the thing pulling out from the wall if I ever had a super-heavy guest come over.

Oh, and oval bowl > round bowl.

look 171 02-21-2018 08:09 AM

The toilet isn't ripping out of the wall. it may seem like its mounted to the wall, but it actually mounts to a steel frame back there bolted to the framing. The tank and flushing mechanism is all between the framing within the the steel frame. The flush button can be removed mounted, basically an air switch. We have only installed the ones that fit within 2x6 walls made by Geberit. That's was the Cadillac of residential wall mount toilets. I think Toto makes one now. I believe they even make one for 2x4 walls.

vash 02-21-2018 08:43 AM

If my buddy Chet visits I’d still wedge a 2x4 under a wall mount toilet. Hehe.

Imagine wall mount toilet and sink? You could hose the room down:)

vash 02-21-2018 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 9933087)
look171 - warm air-dry built in..... https://washlet.totousa.com/how-it-works

I got all the options except automatic seat lifting. Perfect for the germaphobe.

But I’m okay without it.

Oh, I didnt get the toilet light. What I’m doing in there doesn’t need to be spotlighted. Wtf?

javadog 02-21-2018 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 9935287)
The littlest one already has to arc it in (or get on his tippy toes) when he stands to pee. And his free throw percentage isn't 100%.

Teach him to pee in the tub... ;)

look 171 02-21-2018 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 9935435)
Teach him to pee in the tub... ;)

No need to teach that. They already knew and maybe already doing it. Parents are on the need to know program


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