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Tidybuoy 02-27-2018 03:36 PM

Question on Circular Saws - Blade on Left/Right
 
I went shopping last night with a friend who is going to buy a circular saw as well as other tools. While at Home Depot, we noticed that some circular saws have the blade on the left side and some on the right (no indication from manufacturers as to why).

We were speculating that these are for right handed people or left handed people. I am guessing that I would want the blade on the right so that if I were cutting a sheet of plywood, I would keep the saw over the main piece of wood and trim off the right.

Anyone know the answer to this puzzle?

craigster59 02-27-2018 03:39 PM

The short answer is Skilsaw model 77 worm drive.

drkshdw 02-27-2018 03:43 PM

They are just as you speculate. For right handed and left handed people. Right handed saws have the blade on the right to keep the blade further away from you while using it for safety reasons. Left handed saws, blade on the left. Problem is with this setup is that you can't see what you're cutting while using the saw.

With that said, many professional right handed carpenters prefer to use left handed saws so they can more accurately see what they are cutting. Same goes for lefties preferring to use right handed saws.

look 171 02-27-2018 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkshdw (Post 9943760)
They are just as you speculate. For right handed and left handed people. Right handed saws have the blade on the right to keep the blade further away from you while using it for safety reasons. Left handed saws, blade on the left. Problem is with this setup is that you can't see what you're cutting while using the saw.

With that said, many professional right handed carpenters prefer to use left handed saws so they can more accurately see what they are cutting. Same goes for lefties preferring to use right handed saws.

That's what most people think, but it isn't 1005 true.

look 171 02-27-2018 04:11 PM

The saw with the blade on left is most then likely a work drive saw used in framing and heavy use. The motor sits behind the blade and its a heavy sucker (so the weight of the saw does the work instead of the operator having push), like the Skil 77 Craig mentioned. The other, blade on the right is what's known as a side winder. Its a direct drive saw. Its spins the blade (RPM)faster(cleaner cuts) then a worm drive saw , aka Skill saw. A skill saw will cut a piece of lumber even with a dull blade whereas a Sidewinder will struggle. Lots of East cost framers favor the sidewinder instead of us West cost folks, traditionally speaking. I can't use the sidewinder with a damn and I am right handed. We own a bunch of Skil mod. 77s and use the cleanest one even for finish work sometimes.

Edit: Sorry, my freaking three left thumbs typing. It should be worm drive not work

look 171 02-27-2018 04:12 PM

Skill used to make a right hand blade worm drive for lefties.

sammyg2 02-27-2018 04:13 PM

Right-Handed Versus Left-Handed Circular Saws - My Home

I use a right handed saw with my left hand because ... I'm left handed and it's always been that way.

Dan J 02-27-2018 04:26 PM

A Skil 77 is a wonderful piece of 'merica
It'll saw concrete with a dull blade mounted backward
Love mine and love that the blade is on the correct side
It is however a big, heavy, cantankerous device

LWJ 02-27-2018 08:59 PM

Couldn't find a lefty worm drive when I was looking a few years ago.

I bought a Milwaukee without the safety. Works great for a lefty!

Willem Fick 02-28-2018 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9943791)
The saw with the blade on left is most then likely a work drive saw used in framing and heavy use. The motor sits behind the blade and its a heavy sucker (so the weight of the saw does the work instead of the operator having push), like the Skil 77 Craig mentioned. The other, blade on the right is what's known as a side winder. Its a direct drive saw. Its spins the blade (RPM)faster(cleaner cuts) then a worm drive saw , aka Skill saw. A skill saw will cut a piece of lumber even with a dull blade whereas a Sidewinder will struggle. Lots of East cost framers favor the sidewinder instead of us West cost folks, traditionally speaking. I can't use the sidewinder with a damn and I am right handed. We own a bunch of Skil mod. 77s and use the cleanest one even for finish work sometimes.

Edit: Sorry, my freaking three left thumbs typing. It should be worm drive not work

Correct. You'd think that by now (direct drive) saw manufacturers in general would have taken note of the fact that most users are right handed, and using a right handed saw is downright awkward for them!

dad911 02-28-2018 04:54 AM

If he's not going into the framing business, he should buy the ryobi 18v kit with lithium batteries, circular saw, drill, and sawzall. That will likely do all he needs.

cabmandone 02-28-2018 05:11 AM

I'm left handed and never paid any attention to the side the blade is on and use the saws I own with either hand. I think you might be over thinking this one.
As to why the blade is on one side or the other I'd have to say for left or right hand use but again I have used a lot of saws with either hand and it didn't make me any difference. If you look at the fence there are normally two lines, one indicates the outside edge of the blade and the other the inside edge. Just align the line with the side your cutting with and you can use it with either hand.

T77911S 02-28-2018 05:19 AM

i am right handed and bought a right handed saw, even though at the time I was thinking differently.
I bought the wrong one, should have bought the lefty ,.
I look at the blade and the line more than I look at the notch in the front of the saw so I am leaned over the saw more. I figure if I have a lefty I can easily look at either one.

I hate using skill saws BTW. just seem to cover you with saw dust.
I usually just get the table saw out.

KFC911 02-28-2018 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T77911S (Post 9944233)
i am right handed and bought a right handed saw, even though at the time I was thinking differently.
I bought the wrong one, should have bought the lefty ,.
I look at the blade and the line more than I look at the notch in the front of the saw so I am leaned over the saw more....

I'm a lefty too...I just adapt like I always have for tools designed for rightys. I too lean over the saw from behind and view the blade going down the line...

I do have screwdrivers designed for right/left however....one for tightening, the other for loosening...occasionally I use the wrong one ;)

cabmandone 02-28-2018 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9944247)
I'm a lefty too...I just adapt like I always have for tools designed for rightys. I too lean over the saw from behind and view the blade going down the line...

I do have screwdrivers designed for right/left however....one for tightening, the other for loosening...occasionally I use the wrong one ;)

Right hand hammers are the worst! I always seem to miss the nail when I'm swinging one left handed. :D

KFC911 02-28-2018 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 9944295)
Right hand hammers are the worst! I always seem to miss the nail when I'm swinging one left handed. :D

Might not be the hammer...left handed nails suck...wussy-nails I call 'em...afraid of being hit :)

Shaun @ Tru6 02-28-2018 06:38 AM

These threads just kill me. I have a 30 year old Craftsman that's on it's last legs so need another saw which I will use 2-3 times per year with a variety of cuts from wonderboard to plywood to 4x4s.

Based on this thread, researching a little last night, found the Skil saw worm, the Skil sidewinder and now Li ion saws, HD has some nice Dewalts which I swear by in corded angle grinders and reciprocating saws.

Don't want to spend $200 for a saw that I'll use 2-3 times a year so want to keep it at $150 max and $100 is better. I normally buy the best tools possible but for some reason I'm hesitant to go all out on a circular saw, no idea why.

All that said, recommendations?

John Rogers 02-28-2018 06:49 AM

Good heavens, I am like the last poster.......my Sears saw was bought in 1971 or so, been so long I have fuzzy memories about it! It gets used every several years and then for a bunch and then cleaned and put away. If I were to buy one today I would get a Harbor Freight model on sale even if I were using it every day. Their stuff last pretty darn well and the biggest decision is: corded or cordless! I did buy an electric lawn mower, weed eater, hedge trimmer and chain saw last year and I ended getting them from Lowes as the have 80 volt batteries (same one and several extras) and got a contractor's discount since I told the guy at contractor's desk how to fix his ailing home PC. I'd still go with HF if they had higher volt ratings.

cabmandone 02-28-2018 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9944323)
These threads just kill me. I have a 30 year old Craftsman that's on it's last legs so need another saw which I will use 2-3 times per year with a variety of cuts from wonderboard to plywood to 4x4s.

Based on this thread, researching a little last night, found the Skil saw worm, the Skil sidewinder and now Li ion saws, HD has some nice Dewalts which I swear by in corded angle grinders and reciprocating saws.

Don't want to spend $200 for a saw that I'll use 2-3 times a year so want to keep it at $150 max and $100 is better. I normally buy the best tools possible but for some reason I'm hesitant to go all out on a circular saw, no idea why.

All that said, recommendations?

If you're considering a battery powered saw I'd advise against Dewalt. I use a 20v Max Li-ion Dewalt and it seems a bit gutless compared to my much older 18 volt Nicd Milwaukee. I don't use the Milwaukee much anymore because the battery is pretty much shot but I miss using it each time I get the Dewalt out.
Search CL for a Milwaukee with a chord. If you want a pic of the one I have abused for the last 20 or so years and it still keeps cutting, I'll post one.

dad911 02-28-2018 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9944323)
These threads just kill me. I have a 30 year old Craftsman that's on it's last legs so need another saw which I will use 2-3 times per year with a variety of cuts from wonderboard to plywood to 4x4s.

Based on this thread, researching a little last night, found the Skil saw worm, the Skil sidewinder and now Li ion saws, HD has some nice Dewalts which I swear by in corded angle grinders and reciprocating saws.

Don't want to spend $200 for a saw that I'll use 2-3 times a year so want to keep it at $150 max and $100 is better. I normally buy the best tools possible but for some reason I'm hesitant to go all out on a circular saw, no idea why.

All that said, recommendations?

Nothing wrong with the $100 makita saw at home depot. I have one 10+ years old, works fine. But having said that, I like the 18v Ryobi stuff. To cut a 4x4 with that, you are going to go around it with the circular saw, then finish it off with the sawzall.

KFC911 02-28-2018 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9944323)
These threads just kill me. I have a 30 year old Craftsman that's on it's last legs so need another saw which I will use 2-3 times per year with a variety of cuts from wonderboard to plywood to 4x4s....

All that said, recommendations?

I use mine occasionally....had it for years...a low cost Black & Decker methinks....put a good blade on it after a pro suggested such years ago...works for me.

vash 02-28-2018 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 9943753)
The short answer is Skilsaw model 77 worm drive.

haha.. funny.

i bought that magnesium version when the store put the regular price on it. in my girl hands, it still feels heavy.

sammyg2 02-28-2018 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9944323)
These threads just kill me. I have a 30 year old Craftsman that's on it's last legs so need another saw which I will use 2-3 times per year with a variety of cuts from wonderboard to plywood to 4x4s.

Based on this thread, researching a little last night, found the Skil saw worm, the Skil sidewinder and now Li ion saws, HD has some nice Dewalts which I swear by in corded angle grinders and reciprocating saws.

Don't want to spend $200 for a saw that I'll use 2-3 times a year so want to keep it at $150 max and $100 is better. I normally buy the best tools possible but for some reason I'm hesitant to go all out on a circular saw, no idea why.

All that said, recommendations?

Unless you plan to make a living with it, buy a cheap saw and invest in an expensive blade.

vash 02-28-2018 11:29 AM

funny thing about the Skilsaw. the instructions give some procedure on how to change the oil or something. i once asked a carpenter if he has ever changed the oil in one..he laughed and admitted he never ever read the instructions.

it is a throw away tool for these guys.

i dont use mine enough to EVER have to worry about some mystery fluid change.

sammyg2 02-28-2018 11:33 AM

I' bought my skilsaw when i was a teenager and it still works fine, used it last week.
I have a diablo carbide-tipped blade on it and it'll go through nails without kicking back.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1519850169.jpg

vash 02-28-2018 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9944739)
I' bought my skilsaw when i was a teenager and it still works fine, used it last week.
I have a diablo carbide-tipped blade on it and it'll go through nails without kicking back.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1519850169.jpg

that's the blade i see all the time. the big packages are 6" stacks of those things. the crews abuse them since they dont pay for them.

i know you can throw one of those things like a Chinese throwing star and it will stick in a 12x12. :D

NZVW 02-28-2018 01:33 PM

The "primary" reason for left and right handed saws is for safety.
All modern circular saws have a safety button that needs to be de pressed prior to being able to pull the "trigger".
With your index finger on the trigger ,, the thumb depresses the safety which is impossible to do if a lefty is using a righties saw.
Plain and simple
Mark

Dantilla 02-28-2018 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 9944728)
funny thing about the Skilsaw. the instructions give some procedure on how to change the oil or something. i once asked a carpenter if he has ever changed the oil in one..he laughed and admitted he never ever read the instructions.

it is a throw away tool for these guys.

i dont use mine enough to EVER have to worry about some mystery fluid change.

I used to frame houses, and about everyone I know is in construction somehow.
Everybody uses Skil 77s. Nobody in the history of this planet has ever changed the oil in a Skil brand saw, and they perform flawlessly for decades, no matter what extreme weather they are subjected to.
Out in the Seattle area rain every day doesn't faze them.

Crowbob 02-28-2018 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9944308)
Might not be the hammer...left handed nails suck...wussy-nails I call 'em...afraid of being hit :)

No kidding. I am constantly grabbing nails from the pouch that are meant to go on the opposite wall.

Dantilla 02-28-2018 03:06 PM

Also- I'm a lefty, and have used both sidewinders and worm drives, both left handed and right handed.
Whatever is most convenient/fastest for what I'm cutting. I never think about which hand I should use.

Shaun @ Tru6 02-28-2018 03:42 PM

Just left a message for this guy. https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/tls/d/skilsaws/6510908141.html

Hard to imagine I could go wrong with one of them. If anyone wants one, I can buy it and ship it out to you assuming still available.

drcoastline 02-28-2018 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 9944226)
I'm left handed and never paid any attention to the side the blade is on and use the saws I own with either hand. I think you might be over thinking this one.
As to why the blade is on one side or the other I'd have to say for left or right hand use but again I have used a lot of saws with either hand and it didn't make me any difference. If you look at the fence there are normally two lines, one indicates the outside edge of the blade and the other the inside edge. Just align the line with the side your cutting with and you can use it with either hand.

What he said

A930Rocket 02-28-2018 06:16 PM

I’ve got a Makita saw I bought in 1990.

It’s had a lot of use over the years, but not much lately. The only thing I’ve had to do is replace the cord. Works like a champ.

Charles Freeborn 02-28-2018 07:10 PM

What are you cutting? 2x material ? hands down worm drive (Skill 77) blade on left means you can see the line. Panel cutting? "sidewinder" or blade on right, but for extensive panel cutting (plywood) get a track saw. Festool is the bomb, but the Makita looks good too.

Charles Freeborn 02-28-2018 07:11 PM

PS I've changed the oil in my 77, brushes too. At least twice in the .....30 years I've owned it....

look 171 02-28-2018 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 9944295)
Right hand hammers are the worst! I always seem to miss the nail when I'm swinging one left handed. :D

right hand hammers are for hitting your left thumb square on. never misses and always accurate.

look 171 02-28-2018 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZVW (Post 9944893)
The "primary" reason for left and right handed saws is for safety.
All modern circular saws have a safety button that needs to be de pressed prior to being able to pull the "trigger".
With your index finger on the trigger ,, the thumb depresses the safety which is impossible to do if a lefty is using a righties saw.
Plain and simple
Mark

No way man. I will do anything to disable that on my Skilsaw. That can be an accident waiting to happen having to trigger a safety with your thumb just to turn on that heavy sucker. Just one more stupid thing to worry 20' up in the air cutting rafters standing on only 1 1/2" of 2x material with the saw at an extreme angle. I see my guys struggle up there sometimes. I understand that on some of the corded tools but on a framer's saw? I am all for guards, safety and such. Maybe a NZ law?

Dantilla 03-01-2018 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 9945274)
PS I've changed the oil in my 77, brushes too. At least twice in the .....30 years I've owned it....

Wow. I've got a couple 77s that were my dad's that are decades old, used when he was building apartment complexes. 40 hours a week in our wet climate.
I'm sure they still have the same gear oil in them from the factory.

When I started framing houses, my dad was shocked when I bought myself a new Skilsaw when he had several in the garage.
Never occurred to me to take my dad's tools. Isn't that like stealing?

At the time, a new saw was a major purchase. I read the directions, found out you're supposed to change oil. There's oil in these things? I promised myself I would faithfully follow the manufacturer's directions. Then I got busy earning money, the directions disappeared, and that saw still has the original oil in it.

sammyg2 03-01-2018 11:29 AM

A man working with an electric saw accidentally cuts off all of his fingers. At the emergency room, his doctor says, "Give me the fingers, and I'll see what I can do."

The injured man repies, "But I don't have the fingers!"

"Why didn't you bring them?" the doctor asks.

The injured man responds, " I couldn't pick them up."

sammyg2 03-01-2018 11:34 AM

A kid in wood shop yells out and then excitedly tells the shop teacher that he just cut off his finger.
The shop teacher asks how he did it.
The kid says, I just reached under the wood like this to see if the blade was going through and ... darned it I just lots another one!


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