Too much car?

[vash]

Originally Posted by Norm K

I'm probably in the old-school minority here, but I wouldn't be giving a teenager any car. Irrespective of our means, all four of our kids had to earn their way to a first car though a combination of grades, civic responsibility and, yes, money. Keep your grades up, give back to the community and get a job so you can contribute to your present and prepare for your future - now we can talk about a car.

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there is a response just like this in every thread like this. haha.. it really wasnt what the spirit of the thread was asking for. it really does nothing except, passively tell the OP your parenting skills > than his parenting skills.

same with the "should i get a tattoo?" threads.

[fintstone]

My daughter started with an old Toyota 4Runner and the big tires and slight lift which saved a lot of problem (scrapes, curbing nice wheels, etc.). It was cool enough not to be ashamed of yet was bulletproof. She got an IS when she graduated from High School (grad present) after staying out of trouble, taking good care of the Toyota and getting multiple scholarships (so I did not have to pay for undergrad or med school). I got the 200K+ mi 4Runner back and drive it now. Similarly, her full time job was school (including activities and sports), but she did work in the summers.

[Norm K]

Originally Posted by vash

there is a response just like this in every thread like this. haha.. it really wasnt what the spirit of the thread was asking for. it really does nothing except, passively tell the OP your parenting skills > than his parenting skills.

same with the "should i get a tattoo?" threads.

Not entirely dissimilar to the spirit of your reply.

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[KFC911]

Originally Posted by vash

there is a response just like this in every thread like this. haha.. it really wasnt what the spirit of the thread was asking for. it really does nothing except, passively tell the OP your parenting skills > than his parenting skills.

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Hey now....I would never do that....I'm not a parent ! But I have observed mucho over the years....it's PPOT....don't ask off topic questions and expect on topic responses...sheesh

[pwd72s]

Back on topic..late 90's Toyota Corolla. Something like this:

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=477516612&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3FstartYear%3D1998%26so rtBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord %3D0%26endYear%3D1998%26modelCodeList%3DCOROL%26ma keCodeList%3DTOYOTA&startYear=1998&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=1998&modelCodeList=COROL&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&makeCode1=TOYOTA&modelCode1=COROL

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by PorscheGAL

You have 6+ months to decide whether she can handle it. Teach her to drive in the Lexus and see how she does. If she is responsible and drives it well then I see no reason not to let her have it. Even after she gets her full license she can't drive after dark in SC anyway for a year, reducing that risk.

Stephanie, didn't you mention you were thinking of selling your Boss 302? I'm sure a 16 year old girl would be thrilled to have one.

[rfuerst911sc]

I have two sons now both in their 30's . When learners permit time came around we purchased each their first used cars . One was a 4 cylinder Mustang the other a 4 cylinder Jetta automatic . Both cars had one thing in common they were gutless dogs ! And that's EXACTLY what I wanted for both of them . I wanted them to LEARN how to drive and be aware and think ahead/be on the defense all the time . As it turns out they were/are good drivers and if I had to do it again I wouldn't change a thing .

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by PorscheGAL

You have 6+ months to decide whether she can handle it. Teach her to drive in the Lexus and see how she does. If she is responsible and drives it well then I see no reason not to let her have it. Even after she gets her full license she can't drive after dark in SC anyway for a year, reducing that risk.

I quoted Porsche gal because I don't want to sound sexist, sure there are some girls that might go crazy in a fast car but IMHO they are the minority.

It is usually boys that get into trouble either showing off or "lets see what it will do"

I can say that because I'm a teenage boy... trapped in an old man's body.

[freeform911]

Originally Posted by PorscheGAL

You have 6+ months to decide whether she can handle it. Teach her to drive in the Lexus and see how she does. If she is responsible and drives it well then I see no reason not to let her have it. Even after she gets her full license she can't drive after dark in SC anyway for a year, reducing that risk.

She drives the car very well. She drives all our cars well to include the porsche n bmw (track car.) She's definitely car car person.

[PorscheGAL]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Stephanie, didn't you mention you were thinking of selling your Boss 302? I'm sure a 16 year old girl would be thrilled to have one.

Sure! I would be happy to but if OP thought insurance was high on the Lexus, he would go in complete shock over the Boss.

That said: My almost 18 year old son has no desire to drive the Boss. He does drive the Focus ST and I think that was a perfect first car. A little pick up, space to carry all his stuff to school, FWD and good gas mileage. It was a hand me down with 150K miles on the Odo. from dad when he traded up to the Focus RS.

[Yorkie]

The less passengers she can carry the better off she will be. A car full of friends is way more dangerous than HP. A simple pickup is not a bad idea.

[cockerpunk]

i think 99% of people are driving too much car every day.

[vash]

Originally Posted by Norm K

Not entirely dissimilar to the spirit of your reply.

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touche!! hahah.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by fintstone

Keep the IS (additional spare)...they are great cars. Give her a real beater for a year...and then if things go well, the IS.

Well stated.

Females learn lessons faster than those with beans and franks, though. I don't see the hp being an issue. It's just too nice a car given the lack of experience.

I see biggest risk as tailgating, cell phone usage and/or a car full of pals (as stated).

[Les Paul]

My daughter the day she turned 16 mid 90’s. Trans Am. But she did start driving the 930 when she was 14. 20 years later still a gear head.

[-Levi-]

I owned a 07 is350 for 5 years, very good car.
I will say this, if I owned that car in high school I would be dead. it is surprisingly fast and if you turn of TC it is a very hard car to control.
if she is responsible and isn't into going fast she will be fine.... if she is into going fast, it will be an issue

[Seahawk]

My Daughter was a great street driver from the beginning - very aware and clued in...way ahead of the program in terms of situational driving.

We bought her a used Toyota FJ her junior year in HS. May have been too much car but nearly nine years later she is still driving the same car...dent and scratch free 150k miles later.

The answer is it depends. Like Vash mentioned, I drove my first car, a 1960 VW Beetle, like it was the General Lee.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by freeform911

I appreciate all the feed back. My insurance company(usaa) made it an easy choice. TO MUCH CAR!!! Premiums would almost double! So the advice they gave was to look for a beater 1999-2005.
To those that say don't get her a car, haha. My only child and i think right now her job is to do well in school and help out in the community. She'll be forced in to the work force soon enough.
Thanks again for everyones opinion.
Steve

There's always that too! I'm surprised with a girl they would go up that much. Mine didn't go up much until my son (just got his license) was added. My daughter got good grades and my insurance company offered a good student discount which didn't amount to much but it did help with my son since I told him "you don't qualify for the discount... you pay the difference".

[freeform911]

insurance company offered a good student discount which didn't amount to much

We haven't asked about a discount. At the end of the day a 10% savings really isn't much. Would hate to be insurance poor..

[PorscheGAL]

Unfortunately, South Carolina's high accident rates will be reflected in your bill no matter what she drives.