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KFC911 03-05-2018 04:45 AM

New Iphone help...transferring #s, etc.
 
I'm lazy....so I come here for help ;). I'm not an Iphone person, but got one for my mom a few years ago (5s), that's on it's last legs....just ordered her a new one. No connections to the Apple cloud except for facetime (yuk). Is there gonna be a way to easily transfer her phone lists, pics, etc. over to the new phone? Methinks I know the answer...please tell me I'm wrong and make my day :). Thanks!

astrochex 03-05-2018 04:51 AM

If you backup the old phone on iTunes, you can download the backup onto the new one. Its what I did going from a 5 to an 8.

KFC911 03-05-2018 04:53 AM

Other than making me a boatload of $ over the years...I think Apple sux. There...I feel better now :)

KFC911 03-05-2018 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 9949736)
If you backup the old phone on iTunes, you can download the backup onto the new one. Its what I did going from a 5 to an 8.

Nope...not an option I would use...but thanks!

mepstein 03-05-2018 05:01 AM

Either iTunes or iCloud are the usual ways but there are some 3rd party apps that will let you transfer data from one phone to the next using your computer for temp storage.

KFC911 03-05-2018 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mepstein (Post 9949742)
Either iTunes or iCloud are the usual ways but there are some 3rd party apps that will let you transfer data from one phone to the next using your computer for temp storage.

Thanks, but not an option either...

Having spent a career as an IT heavyweight and networking guru...I now travel the information dirt road as a stubborn ol' mule :). And I like it that way...

Now get off my lawn! ....unless you can help...then I'll buy ya a lawn chair ;)

cabmandone 03-05-2018 05:22 AM

If you're not willing to use Icloud or Itunes or a few 3rd party apps, your options are pretty limited. Get your fingers ready for a workout would be my advice.

KFC911 03-05-2018 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 9949763)
If you're not willing to use Icloud or Itunes or a few 3rd party apps, your options are pretty limited. Get your fingers ready for a workout would be my advice.

Cracking my knuckles already ;)

cabmandone 03-05-2018 05:33 AM

Why the aversion to Icloud or Itunes? I'm come from the world of android but my daughter had an Iphone (before I convinced her to switch) and my parents both have Iphones. Itunes or Icloud work really well for backup and transfer.

cabmandone 03-05-2018 05:38 AM

BTW, I think most phones can transfer contacts by bluetooth. You might want to do a search.

https://www.iskysoft.com/mobile-tips/transfer-contacts-from-iphone-to-iphone-without-with-icloud.html

stomachmonkey 03-05-2018 05:51 AM

Sounds like every conversation with my wife.

Honey, how do I do this?

Go here and do this

I don’t want to do that, I want to do it another way

Ok, but that’s the way it’s done, your other way won’t work

But I don’t like your way, I wanna do it my way but don’t know what to do

Do you want it to work?

Yes

Then do it my way

I don’t like that way, I’m doing it my way

Fine

Honey....

Yes dear

I did it my way and it’s not working

Sigh

KFC911 03-05-2018 06:00 AM

Sigh ;)

Thanks all! I knew what the answer was without even asking here, but appreciate the responses anyways...

Holger 03-05-2018 06:09 AM

LOL Stomach! Been there, done that!

RKDinOKC 03-05-2018 06:33 AM

There is an free app called iMove that runs on a PC to transfer everything from old iPhone to new one if you are trying to stay away from the Apple universe.

But since you state you are lazy and iCloud is free just backup to iCloud, then when you get the new device, restore from iCloud. And go on.

The easiest way if an Apple store is close, just take the phones to a "genius" and have them do it for you.

I thankfully don't know of any way to just have the old and new phones talk to each other and move everything. I imaging the hackers would have a hayday with that feature if were available.

RKDinOKC 03-05-2018 08:04 AM

Bluetooth is not directional.

Find no instructions for pointing iPhones at each other to copy data.

There is an app called bump where you can send a single file an contact. But it is not to copy all the data and settings from one phone to another.

A930Rocket 03-05-2018 06:22 PM

I always have the shop where I buy the iphone transfer the contact list over to the new phone.

No itunes or icloud for me.

dad911 03-05-2018 06:36 PM

My email/calendar/contacts/notes sync with my gmail account.(which is actually my own domain, serviced by google) Don't need to use itunes.

However, itunes is simpler and easier. And will sync/backup apps, pics and text messages. I don't understand the reluctance.

rattlsnak 03-05-2018 07:50 PM

You can simply back up her old phone to your PC through iTunes and then load the new phone from that backup and it will transfer over all of the settings/contacts, etc. That way, nothing goes out into the cloud.

MBAtarga 03-05-2018 08:13 PM

AT&T offers the Mobile Transfer app. It transfers all contacts, etc to a new phone via bluetooth between the phones. No PC/itunes/etc required.

cstreit 03-05-2018 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9949752)
Thanks, but not an option either...

If you knew iTunes was the main way but you didn't want to do that, why didn't you say that right up front? You've been offered three ways of doing this very simply and with no hassle. ...and your response is simply "That's not an option" and "i already knew that"?? If someone asked you to fix their problem and you offered three simple solutions and they just said "Nope"... What would you do?

You'd say "Good luck with your problem *somewhere else*".

Care to explain why or would you just like to everyone to keep throwing out ideas until you find someone what meets your unexplained mystery criteria? I can only assume you want to do it "off grid" with a serial cable? Not happening unless you want to do a lot of typing...

KFC911 03-05-2018 09:48 PM

Quit throwing out ideas guys....believe me, I understand what y'all are saying. I "know" why the suggestions offered are not an option for me....even though you guys don't ;). I knew I was asking for the impossible before even starting this thread...but did anyways....sometimes a rabbit comes out of the hat. Thread's over...but carry on....:)

KFC911 03-05-2018 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 9950806)
If you knew iTunes was the main way but you didn't want to do that, why didn't you say that right up front? You've been offered three ways..

I thought I made that clear in the OP...sorry! The other two are simply not an option...

Sorry for wasting yer time ;)

cstreit 03-06-2018 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9950831)
I thought I made that clear in the OP...sorry! The other two are simply not an option...

Sorry for wasting yer time ;)

If its simply Apple Cloud you object to, then use Google to save and transfer contacts.

The only other thing I can think of is that maybe you might be able to do it "offline" via a temporary sim card swap.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202340

KFC911 03-06-2018 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 9951021)
If its simply Apple Cloud you object to, then use Google to save and transfer contacts.

The only other thing I can think of is that maybe you might be able to do it "offline" via a temporary sim card swap.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202340

Thank you for continuing to offer assistance....I seriously mean that! I won't go into details, but I made a deal with my dad, to keep my mom isolated from "big brother"...he still ain't happy one bit with her having the Iphone and Facetime, etc., but that's the jist of it. I don't even have a PC, nor Bluetooth....I left the tech stuff behind me ten years ago and have never looked back, and am happier than I've ever been in decades :). I'll look into the Sim aspect....I don't even know if her 5s has one, but that's the "rabbit in the hat" I was grasping for with this thread. I will probaby just do it "the stubborn ol' mule" way....manually ;). Her phone list isn't huge. Didn't mean to waste anyone's time attempting to assist....thank you all....sincerely!

stomachmonkey 03-06-2018 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9951055)
Thank you for continuing to offer assistance....I seriously mean that! I won't go into details, but I made a deal with my dad, to keep my mom isolated from "big brother"...he still ain't happy one bit with her having the Iphone and Facetime, etc., but that's the jist of it. I don't even have a PC, nor Bluetooth....I left the tech stuff behind me ten years ago and have never looked back, and am happier than I've ever been in decades :). I'll look into the Sim aspect....I don't even know if her 5s has one, but that's the "rabbit in the hat" I was grasping for with this thread. I will probaby just do it "the stubborn ol' mule" way....manually ;). Her phone list isn't huge. Didn't mean to waste anyone's time attempting to assist....thank you all....sincerely!

Unless it's Verizon they all have SIM cards.

If it's Verizon it can have the SIM slot but not necc the card.

KFC911 03-06-2018 09:27 AM

I'll look into the SIM aspect for sure....thanks all! Now I have another question (lazee I are :)). I just assumed the 5s battery wasn't replacable, based upon stuff I read (probably here) over the years....had to have been true...read it on the Internet....did I mss that boat too? The new phone was ordered Sun. when mom described the symptoms....I thought it was virtually dead. It wasn't until later that she told me she'd been yakking with her older sis for 1.5 hrs the day before and didn't recharge it....wimmins ;)

stomachmonkey 03-06-2018 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9951235)
I'll look into the SIM aspect for sure....thanks all! Now I have another question (lazee I are :)). I just assumed the 5s battery wasn't replacable, based upon stuff I read (probably here) over the years....had to have been true...read it on the Internet....did I mss that boat too? The new phone was ordered Sun. when mom described the symptoms....I thought it was virtually dead. It wasn't until later that she told me she'd been yakking with her older sis for 1.5 hrs the day before and didn't recharge it....wimmins ;)

5S is replaceable.

Bit of a fiddly one to work on.

Buy the battery kit from iFixit.

Spend the couple of extra bucks for the full kit with tools and not just the bare battery.

It's worth it, trust me.

https://www.ifixit.com/Store/iPhone/iPhone-5s-Replacement-Battery/IF124-002-4

KFC911 03-06-2018 11:09 AM

Dayum...I should've asked the braintrust before now ;). I already have a new one for mom on the way...at least it was cheap (175).... live and learn...thanks mucho!

Bob Kontak 03-06-2018 02:59 PM

Does the new battery program at Apple replace the 5's battery for $28?

aigel 03-06-2018 03:40 PM

If you want to stay away from Big Brother, you can't have an Iphone. Now you are just putting lipstick on a pig by not using Itunes to transfer.

G

RKDinOKC 03-06-2018 03:56 PM

If you have a pc, install itunes. Backup the old phone with iTunes. Restore to the new phone with iTunes. Delete iTunes. No Big Brothers.

The iMove app for PC would do the same thing copying phone to phone without creating any kind of big brother account.

KFC911 03-06-2018 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 9951731)
If you want to stay away from Big Brother, you can't have an Iphone. Now you are just putting lipstick on a pig by not using Itunes to transfer.

G

Not completely, but I have pretty much shielded my mom from exposure...as I promised dad I would. It's just the hand I'm playing...

She uses just the phone and facebook....and both of those are associated to me. I sold my soul to the devil (Google) before most of you guys had even heard of it....purely by chance.
Knew one of the very first emoloyees casually, and then his girl friend (now wife) roped a bunch of us in when gmail was still in beta...if I only knew then....alas, she was cute...what could it hurt ;). Cool couple though...

KFC911 03-06-2018 04:08 PM

[QUOTE=RKDinOKC;9951747]If you have a pc.../QUOTE]

No pc anymore, no bluetooth, no nada...but I'm good ;). I'll investigate the SIM aspect when I get the new phone (and have hers) or just enter them manually...like I did all her others. I've spent more time on this thread than it will take to do that...really no biggy. I do thank you all for your suggestions!

Brian 162 03-06-2018 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9951235)
I'll look into the SIM aspect for sure....thanks all! Now I have another question (lazee I are :)). I just assumed the 5s battery wasn't replacable, based upon stuff I read (probably here) over the years....had to have been true...read it on the Internet....did I mss that boat too? The new phone was ordered Sun. when mom described the symptoms....I thought it was virtually dead. It wasn't until later that she told me she'd been yakking with her older sis for 1.5 hrs the day before and didn't recharge it....wimmins ;)

I had my I-phone 5s battery replaced 3 weeks ago. It took a month to get an appointment at an Apple Store. They tested the battery and advised to replace. It cost me around $120.
If you are close to an Apple store they can transfer your contacts from your old phone to the new one.
They did it for me when they transferred contacts from a blackberry to my 5s.

KFC911 03-06-2018 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian 162 (Post 9952051)
I had my I-phone 5s battery replaced 3 weeks ago. It took a month to get an appointment at an Apple Store. They tested the battery and advised to replace. It cost me around $120.
If you are close to an Apple store they can transfer your contacts from your old phone to the new one.
They did it for me when they transferred contacts from a blackberry to my 5s.

Thanks....got her a newer phone ($175) already on the way before starting this thread....your post made me feel brilliant....120....sheesh!

cstreit 03-07-2018 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9951055)
Thank you for continuing to offer assistance....I seriously mean that! I won't go into details, but I made a deal with my dad, to keep my mom isolated from "big brother"...he still ain't happy one bit with her having the Iphone and Facetime, etc., but that's the jist of it. I don't even have a PC, nor Bluetooth....I left the tech stuff behind me ten years ago and have never looked back, and am happier than I've ever been in decades :). I'll look into the Sim aspect....I don't even know if her 5s has one, but that's the "rabbit in the hat" I was grasping for with this thread. I will probaby just do it "the stubborn ol' mule" way....manually ;). Her phone list isn't huge. Didn't mean to waste anyone's time attempting to assist....thank you all....sincerely!

The Luddite way sounds pretty heavenly actually. I haven’t started the 12step program but as a 28 year IT veteran I get it. :)

KFC911 03-07-2018 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 9953345)
The Luddite way sounds pretty heavenly actually. I haven’t started the 12step program but as a 28 year IT veteran I get it. :)

It doesn't suck ;). I started my career in communications r&d at IBM, then a communications systems programmer, systems/network guy...designer, tuner, trouble shooter....I wore many hats during my career while always working with the latest and greatest, leading edge tech. IBM, Cisco, etc. ...with huge corporations....my only regret :(.

I planned to exit at 50....decided to retire at 48 rather than continue on with HP when my dept was outsourced back in '08.

No regrets whatsoever....other than that dang Iphone...bad juju ;)


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