sighting in an AIR-RIFLE.

[vash]

this year is unique. i am switching over to a left handed bow. so taking a turkey isnt going to happen unless i dust off my righty bow. (maybe i will)

i really want to use my pellet gun.

i think i could bludgeon a big turkey with a head shot at 15 yards. so that is going to be my optimum distance. my rifle has a mil-dot scope. i figure determining where 10, 20 POI will be good insurance.

what's the strategy? just set the scope at some magnification (7x), dont touch that ever and figure out which mil-dots hit where? i am going to write it down on a big piece of water proof paper and pin it to the inside of my hunting blind.

Mil-dots with a variable power scope..are people just picking one magnification, or do they really figure it out with all the magnifications? i guess i dont know how to optimize my scope usage.

(i am putting my shotgun at my feet in case things go pear-shaped)

[id10t]

I don't have mildots but a crosshair that starts thick and transitions can do the same thing. For me, it was on different powers to determine range. Sometimes I would be lucky and the thick post part could act as a zero point for some known distance.

Depending on pellet design, weight, and MV you could go further than 20 yards. I'd limit your range to where you can accurately hit a gobbler's head within the limits of your rifle, ammo, and skill

[svandamme]

scope for 20 yards?
why?

I shot my rooster dead in the eye at 10 with irons on my Diane break barrel pellet rifle

the son of a b had started crowing and i had warned the bastard he'de meet a pot and a bottle of red wine if he started waking me up.. he had bene half ass making noises for 2 months, and on a given monday he let loose with a big ass crow.. i opened my window and shouted stfu, he crowed louder.
He was also fighting his mother chicken and his sisters.. So something had to be done

And when i tried to catch him i found out that roosters don't run like ordinary chickens, them's muuuch faster !!
Each time I made a move, he'de run off and pause 10 yards away, stopped, and looked at me defiantly for 4 secs.


That's when i knew i'de get him with grandpa's old Diane.
I made him run, and when he stopped to look at me, offhand, I shot him right in the eye
Dropped like a stone.



Not much meat on them bones, but it was tasty

[vash]

My gun doesn’t have open sight as an option.

I’m keeping it close because I don’t really know how hard my gun hits. Plus a bird at close range damn near shuts my brain off

[Jeff Higgins]

What kind of an air rifle? Spring piston, pre-charged pneumatic, pump-up pneumatic, what? What caliber? What weight pellet will you use? This makes a difference. For example, "springers" are notoriously hold sensitive because the vibrate so much while the pellet is traveling down the bore. The other platforms have their inherent issues as well.

As far as mil dot usage, most only "work" at a given power setting. This is the important part, though - they are not meant for hold-over or windage correction. They are meant for range estimation on targets of known size. Once you have determined the range and/or the wind value you are dealing with, you make the necessary corrections with the scope turrets so that you still hold center.

There are scopes available with secondary aiming points tailored to a specific cartridge firing a specific bullet at a specific velocity. Typically the crosshairs are used as the 200 yard aiming point, and a series of dots below it represent point of impact at various yardages. I doubt these are available tailored to air rifles, though.

So much for the intended uses of all of this stuff. That's all well and good, but you can still mount such a scope on your air rifle (or any rifle for that matter) and learn to use them as you wish. One of the best applications I've found is a Weaver "muzzle loader" scope. It has "trajectory compensating" dots below the crosshair intersection. Through much trial and error, I've learned where the rifle that wears it hits at various ranges. Works great.

[911_Dude]

What ever that pic is showing in the stew pot- That ain’t right. Good god man, WTF. Looks like a scene in Breaking Bad where they open up a 50 gal drum that had a body marinating in it for a couple of months.

[LWJ]

Just a note, I live in the US West. We have rednecks. How come Stijn talks more hillbilly than most people I know?

Things that make you say "hmmm."

[masraum]

Originally Posted by LWJ

Just a note, I live in the US West. We have rednecks. How come Stijn talks more hillbilly than most people I know?

Things that make you say "hmmm."

He's been hanging out long enough for us to wear-off on him.

[Cajundaddy]

I don't know much about mil-dot scopes. My RWS Diana has a standard 4x crosshair scope and my primary game is fruit rats. I found that the perfect kill shot for these rodents is in the throat when they get up on their haunches for a good look. They just drop like stones. To sight in my scope I simply set targets at three common distances I shoot and practiced until I was dead-on at each range. My kill tally is at about 40 right now and it is rare when I miss. Once they present themselves to the rifle, hitting inside a dime is pretty easy by estimating range.

[Arizona_928]

Iron sights are the way to go.
the laser sights will make you a lazy / bad marksman.

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by 911_Dude

What ever that pic is showing in the stew pot- That ain’t right. Good god man, WTF. Looks like a scene in Breaking Bad where they open up a 50 gal drum that had a body marinating in it for a couple of months.

that's just coq au vin drumsticks

[svandamme]

a mil dot is usually calibrated for the maximum magnification, but either way, they suck on anything other then fixed 10X scopes for actual milling..and big known size targets
10x makes the formula easier, but hardly anyone but a military sniper will use mildots for milling anyway.

I took my 10x40 Mark4 leupold out to 1000 yards with great results in Bisley and a bit past that in Norway, and on known ranges you can use the mildots for overholding in wind rather then clicking windage.
Which for that MARK4 helped since it had .5 moa windage turrets.. and the overhold was much easier to do

You can use the dots on any magnification if you zero and mark down the drop vs the dots you have at that magnification..
It's just a question of getting used to your scope reticle for your range of distances and rifle ballistics.

Just shoot it a lot and take notes of each shot's conditions

[vash]

step one:

do not go with a funny ass drunken supervisor..

i am so gonna miss this turkey.

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by LWJ

Just a note, I live in the US West. We have rednecks. How come Stijn talks more hillbilly than most people I know?

Things that make you say "hmmm."

you should hear me in person. I'm like a parrot with accents.


I call up a customer in the south, i'll talk back with a soutern twang..

My coworkers laugh themselves silly after i had an Irish customer on the phone.. especially since i'll be quite pissed off if it was a stupid self inflected "irish" problem again.. And the nett result is i'll be talking and cursing with an irish accent for half an hour. fecking this and fecking that.

Canadian english, Indian english, Northern english(had a Yorkshireman as coworker for 5 years) , Scottish, i'll even talk dutchy dutch when i call somebody in the Netherlands, my flemish or belgian dutch vanishes in a split second.

Some accents i just can't get my mind to pick up, Scousser (Liverpool) is just weird..

[flipper35]

Hawke Chairgun Pro is a good app for your airgun.

[vash]

Originally Posted by flipper35

Hawke Chairgun Pro is a good app for your airgun.

downloading it now!! looks promising.

thanks.

[vash]

Open sights; not gonna happen. My gun is scope specific.

[stevej37]

Wouldn't a bore-sight laser work? I bought one for sighting in my 22 cal. and it worked perfect.
Or don't they make them that size? I think I paid around $25 for mine.

[vash]

I dumbed it down.

I think 15 yards is my golden range to hit a turkey. I KNOW I need to aim one mil dot hit with the scope at 6x. At 10 yards it still hits minute of turkey brain. At 20 yards. Aim Half mil dot high.

Dope card done and I’ll pin it to the inside if my ground blind.

12 ga shotgun at my feet if I lose faith.

[kolo]

I have a airfoce condor in 22 that tony at talon tunes helped.
I found a 3 1/2 hp gas engined 3 stage milsurp compressor that used to be used for charging flame thrower tanks
no more pumping ....
It will put a 28 grn pellet out at 950 ft/sec, it's a joy to shoot