Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10031629)

Let's examine another reason why China may be a player here. If we can get rid of Kim's nukes and the two Koreas can eventually formally end the war and perhaps normalize relations, there will be little or no need for us to maintain a troop presence there. That would be in China's interest, perhaps that is more important to them as they attempt to militarize that part of the world than any benefit they get from being "friends" with North Korea.

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10031683)

Read this. It gives you some idea of the extent of our talks with China:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/17/us/politics/tillerson-north-korea-china.amp.html

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10031371)

If there was any active moderation here, this thread would be moved.

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 10031628)

Personally I think this is Kim’s way out of the lose-lose scenario he has created for himself. If he creates a viable nuclear weapon and delivery system, it doesn’t elevate him in any way in the world. That’s just more sanctions, more sabre rattling, more people starving, and his position at the top of a crumbling dictatorship getting very precarious. Which is best case, worst case is some sort of conflict to disable the capability, which is not far fetched. But if he gives up his nukes, makes a deal with the USA that opens up trade, money, investment, and opens his society to the west....he’s a hero. Also a very rich hero, and he gets the connection to the west that he supposedly craves. It’s widely rumored that he attended a western university under a false identity, I don’t think he hates our society like many think.

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10031252)

It also could mean that you're posting on the internet anonymously as opposed to speaking face-to-face. Not to discount the stupidity of plenty of the trolls here.

In real life, (IRL), it's pretty rare to hear someone speak in mocking or trolling fashion, looking for a fight. When it does occur, it's usually accompanied by plenty of alcohol and/or mental illness. People holding signs and screaming on street corners kind of thing. People tend to move away from such people in a hurry. It also occurs in mob situations, like marches and rallies.

But on boards like this, you have people who cowardly toss insults and call names that they'd never say face-to-face. I've recently been called a pussy by someone who would never dare say it to my face in a 1000 years. Also have had all kinds of weird, made up stories posted about myself, all by cowards hiding in secure bunkers w plenty of guns and liquid courage handy.

So yeah, this garbage belongs in PARF.

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10031401)

Actually, I think you might be surprised. For me, it's not so much about politics. I would simply get rid of the people that show up in most threads just to throw insults at one another, completely off-topic. I'd list their names, but I'm sure you know who I'm talking about.

There are people that make an attempt at discussion and I have no problem with them, whether I agree with their politics or not. Then there are people that make no attempt at discussing a topic.

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10031044)

Probably because the original poster saw the news as positive and couldn't imagine that anybody with a functional brain could turn it into the pissing contest that results when certain members of this for him interact with each other.

I think it's time to do a little housecleaning, but sadly, I am not a moderator here.

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 10030687)

NK released the Americans to Pompeo. Heading back to US.

Another win for the US and Trump.

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10031968)

I have to disagree with you, which should come as no surprise. It's factually accurate and does not in anyway condemn past presidents or anyone else

It can't be a political slashing job, in your words, because it simply doesn't attack anybody. Your Trump derangement syndrome predicates you to think otherwise. God forbid something good should happen and somebody gives Trump the credit for it.

Quit being a partisan hack and just be happy that something good happened in the world yesterday.