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Porsche_monkey 05-22-2008 11:15 AM

Project Zeke - Part II
 
Some of you may have read my thread in the 911 forum, this is the (hopefully) final push to finish the car off.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/352616-body-guys-i-need-help.html

I started off with this:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211482796.jpg

And after months (I really don't want to add up the hours) I'm here now:

Aligned, primed and (almost) ready for paint. This is the bodywork equivalent to 'while you're in there'. I have stripped every piece of trim and panel off the car, the glass is out, and every spec of rust (yes, there were few spots) has been cleaned up.

I water sanded (400 grit, then 600) the entire car. Primed it and resanded.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211482987.jpg

A few 'issues' popped up....and were filled and need sanding/repriming:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211483191.jpg

The standard Porsche door crack was tig welded but still visible, body filler was added today:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211483220.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211483296.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211483315.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211483337.jpg

Gravity feed paint gun:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211483364.jpg

Paint & Filler

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211483828.jpg

Sanding tools:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1211483399.jpg

Advice I can offer at this point:

The Valspar pimer filler is very good, easy top apply and sands niceyl. It does have a tendancy to 'orange peel', which can be sanded out. I will balme that on the painters inexperience not the product.

The body filler was a problem until I put in the paint shaker. It needed a good stir. It also went on much better when I thin it slightly with laquer thinner.

I wet sand everything, except my first rough pass on the bondo. Water is your friend when when wet-sanding, keep a pray bottle or hose handy to remove the waste.

Finally: I will never ever question the price of a paint job from a body shop. The amount of work required to do this properly is astounding.

I've done the painting so far, it's time for a pro to help me out with the base and clear. I'll update this as we move along. Slowly but surely.

cgarr 05-22-2008 11:23 AM

Cant wait, I will be painting mine this weekend, black also..

Porsche_monkey 05-22-2008 11:40 AM

Have you picked a paint and clear-coat product yet?

cgarr 05-22-2008 11:43 AM

I am going with a single stage off the shelf black

Porsche_monkey 05-22-2008 11:47 AM

Chicken.

cgarr 05-22-2008 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBH (Post 3958154)
Chicken.

I will loose points at the Concours d'Elegance competition if I change from the factory system:D

Axiom 05-23-2008 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgarr (Post 3958072)
Cant wait, I will be painting mine this weekend, black also..

Good luck, post some pictures when you're done.

Porsche_monkey 09-08-2008 11:43 AM

Several months later I have accomplished a few things:

1) sent my daughter back to University
2) ditto for son

So, now that I have some time.....

Top coat #1 with pricey DuPont paint...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1220902798.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1220902850.jpg


Using this stuff at over $150 per quart:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1220902901.jpg

And then water sanding with 800 and 1000 grit before the second coat:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1220902976.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1220903009.jpg


Still a ways to go. But I'm getting there....

SCWDP911 10-20-2008 07:24 PM

anything new?

Porsche_monkey 10-21-2008 01:48 PM

Yes. And no.

Education is expensive, so take the benefit of my time and money:

1. You do not know how to paint a car if you've never done it before. You only think you know.

2. An old car has a lot of dings and nicks you never saw until it is painted.

3. Black shows every flaw, see 2. above.

Having said this...

Removable bits have one coat of base, are water sanded and ready for top coating:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1224625373.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1224625416.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1224625467.jpg

The fender had a 'bad reaction' in one spot, I am assuming I missed a spot with the primer, which allowed the new base to contact the old paint, and produced an instant wrinkle finish. So this was re-primed and wet-sanding is almost done:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1224625578.jpg

And the body is primed but needs lots of water-sanding since I didn't put on quite enough paint. No flow means a rougher finish which means more sanding. So few days at this...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1224625662.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1224625704.jpg

And I'll be adding basecoat #1 to the body.

rennch 10-21-2008 02:11 PM

It's looking good! It's too bad you're so cramped in that small space to work. ;)

Porsche_monkey 10-21-2008 02:12 PM

Crap accumulates to fill any voids. Just give me time...

gsmith660 10-21-2008 03:21 PM

I used dupont chromasystem and that is why I only did bodywork I had someone who knew what they were doing lay on the paint my paint only totals were around 1000 dollars, and it went on nice.

azasadny 10-21-2008 04:10 PM

Incredible work! I admire you guys who bring these cars back to life!!

Porsche_monkey 12-18-2008 11:12 AM

Call me a suck if you want but I chickened out and took my car to a painter.

I am losing my workspace shortly, and given the price of paint and clearcoat it seemed crazy to move forward on the assumption i could do a high quality paint job on my first try.

The car is back (most of it is). Just re-assembly is left.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1229631130.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1229631154.jpg

calling911 12-24-2008 08:41 AM

You arent going to wet sand and polish? Be a huge mistake at this point.

Porsche_monkey 12-24-2008 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calling911 (Post 4377953)
You arent going to wet sand and polish? Be a huge mistake at this point.

That's been done once. He wants to finish off with a finer compound when the clear coat has hardened more.

ToolZero 09-17-2009 02:33 PM

Where is the update to this awesome story?


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