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super9064 02-08-2008 06:43 AM

356 talk list Rant
 
I'm a 356registry member and I cannot figure out why they stay with that talk list. Is there a reason that they refuse to move to a forum like this. That talk list is so unmanageable, you cant post pictures, I hate it. Am I the only one who feels this way?:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Les Paul 02-08-2008 09:23 AM

I was on it for several months probably 10 years ago. It drove me crazy too. I have no idea why they don't go to something newer and easier either. There is probably more knowledge there than any other forum on the good old 356.

1411506 02-08-2008 12:13 PM

Agreed - one of the reasons I am no longer a member.

C. Clark 02-08-2008 03:27 PM

Ditto......
Chas.
356
912
911

teleski42 02-08-2008 05:26 PM

I have been on 356Talk for 6 years. There is still some great content though the format is a bit dated. The great occasional content makes it worthwhile.

BertBeagle 02-08-2008 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teleski42 (Post 3757461)
I have been on 356Talk for 6 years. There is still some great content though the format is a bit dated. The great occasional content makes it worthwhile.

Yep, same here. I like the people but the format is nuts.

C. Clark 02-09-2008 08:10 AM

The problem as I see it is, 356 Talk clogs up e-mail, ask a question which is easy but get not only the answer for your query but everyone else's too.......On the other hand they seem to be more active than here. I do enjoy the Registry's other features, web pages and magazine, the archive search works relatively well.
Chas.
356
912
911

mpribanic 02-09-2008 05:06 PM

Not sure if ya'll have seen this thread yet:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=255392&postdays=0&postorder=asc&st art=0

Pay special attention to the latest posts from today

drauz 02-09-2008 05:40 PM

I just figured the same guys who like 356s also prefer 3200 baud modems.

C. Clark 02-09-2008 06:04 PM

I'm all for the forum format, that said strong leadership is a must. I visit the 912 Registry BBS often but since Dave Hillman's tragic death, (the soul of of the 912 Registry), the situation over there has really been changed with all the reconfiguration of ownership. Then again the 356 Registry is a well established organization, hopefully if it does create a forum it will be well thought out and managed conscientiously as is most of their other business, or so it seems.
Chas.
356
912
911

Joe Bob 02-10-2008 01:57 PM

Ask them about replicas....

Jump2xs 02-11-2008 11:26 AM

I believe the talk list format is in some ways superior to a BB for promoting participation.
This is because it demands your attention by coming into your mail box...it seeks you out rather than a board like this where you need to be proactive to visit this site. This feature could also be considered annoying but where else can you ask a question that goes directly into the mail box of the most knowledgeable 356 experts? Very few queries to the list go unanswered. I've asked questions to the list at 2:am in the midst of assembling an engine and have my answer within the hour from someone in Europe. Even if all the experts were on this board, they might not visit it for months. Of course the biggest downside is not being able to post pictures and the boring chatter about replicas.

Les Paul 02-11-2008 11:39 AM

When they change it to something more modern I'll re-join the 356 registry. Until then they can have their own little club.

356-930 02-11-2008 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Paul (Post 3762116)
When they change it to something more modern I'll re-join the 356 registry. Until then they can have their own little club.

Why rejoin? You know they don't care for us outlaw types.
Hope all is well.
Kind regards,
Chris Toy

Les Paul 02-12-2008 08:05 AM

Well I am actually going to put the bumpers back on. After 15 years and 3 different slight incidents that bumpers might have prevented. Or at least taken the majority of it. And you have to admit the magazine is pretty cool. Funny how my wife and dad told me long ago not to go with the Outlaw look.

Jonesy78 02-12-2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 356-930 (Post 3763090)
Why rejoin? You know they don't care for us outlaw types.

Rod Emory seems welcomed there...

dougcl 02-12-2008 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikez (Post 3760458)
Ask them about replicas....

Mike, let me ask you about Camrys...

What is your beef, anyway? Must everyone share your fascinations? Must it be your way or you get bent out of shape? The 356 registry is a 356 club. It makes no sense to me why you would want to change that. It makes about as much sense as trying to get Porsche replicas into a vintage guitar forum.

If you really care that much about how your car is received, just take out a loan and buy a Speedster already. Or perhaps you could start a MikeZ Club.

Confused,
Doug

drauz 02-12-2008 06:48 PM

I'm not convinced on the whole "we need a replica class in 356 Registry events" issue. Aren't there replica / kit clubs that have juried concours-like events? It's enough of a pain to sort through ebay's 356 listings to find a real one among the pretenders, much less the cognitive dissonance of judging replicas and the real things at the same event. and I LIKE kits & replicas!

Joe Bob 02-13-2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougcl (Post 3764906)
Mike, let me ask you about Camrys...

What is your beef, anyway? Must everyone share your fascinations? Must it be your way or you get bent out of shape? The 356 registry is a 356 club. It makes no sense to me why you would want to change that. It makes about as much sense as trying to get Porsche replicas into a vintage guitar forum.

If you really care that much about how your car is received, just take out a loan and buy a Speedster already. Or perhaps you could start a MikeZ Club.

Confused,
Doug

WTF? It was a joke....I have NO BEEF with the registry...I'm a paid member.

I did not start this thread, I simply thru in a one liner. YOU need to cool yer jets.....:eek:

super9064 02-13-2008 11:50 AM

Let your voice be heard
 
Those who feel that the talk list should be changed to a forum please contact the Registry president. If you are a member of the registry let him know your preference and if you are a former member, and would rejoin if the format was changed, please let him know that as well. There is a very vocal minority in that club that is very resistant to change, lets let them know how the rest of us feel. SmileWavy


Chuck House, President

ChuckHouse@356registry.org

Les Paul 02-13-2008 03:42 PM

Pretty strange. I've been out for 3 or 4 years. I was probably in for 5 or 6. At one time I read their antiquated e-mail forum and got sick of it. Or my wife did because I would forget to delete.

So last week I got a card in the mail to register in the club again. I'm sending it in tomorrow with a note to please change their forum to something like this one. There is just so much knowledge there. I used to get a kick when the Maestro (r.i.p.) and someone else would go at it. I thought so much of the Maestro I bought all his books, and had him do my engine 2 times. It still runs like a sewing machine 10-12 years later.

Jared Lane 02-13-2008 06:47 PM

Yeah! Let your voices be heard!? Or, work with what you have!
 
I usually just lurk but this trips my trigger.

The only thing that those of you who are complaining are missing is that those "few" individuals that are "resistant" to change are also the most valuable members of the List. Sometimes you have to work with what you have.

Personally, I find the List to be very easy to manage. I get daily emails in digest. But I also search the "Archives" of the Registry's List on the website daily. I find it much easier to search the archives than searching any of the current forums. I do a generic search for the days date. This will show you every post for the day. You can select what you want and pass over what you do not. Very efficient and painless, no need for excessive emails and you can still post just like you always have/had. Yeah, no pictures that is a drawback. But I state again, sometimes you have to work with what you have.

Having The List is much more valuable than pictures.


Just because it is new, doesn't make it better.

Best Regards,

Jared

Tim _I 02-16-2008 08:15 AM

I don't see what the fuss is. You want a forum? You've got it right here.

I think both formats have their advantages. I happen to like the 356 Registry list the way it is, and I don't understand why some people seem to get their feelings hurt if everyone doesn't share their opinion that a forum is the ONLY way to go.

super9064 02-16-2008 09:29 AM

Tim
All opinions welcome:) As a ten year dues paying registry member I would like, what I think, is a better system, if the majority of the registry wants to stay with the talk list, then so be it. I do think that as a club it is something to consider. Maybe we should put it to a vote. Yes we have a forum here, but we all know that you guys on the talk list have a deep knowledge base, that I for one respect and admire. The problem is, that the information is so hard to get to on the talk list, not to mention that a picture is worth a thousand words. I think the real point here to consider is how can the 356 community be best served, we all love these cars, we all want to keep them running, we should want to bring new enthusiasts into the fold. By making it easer to communicate we bring the whole community that much closer.

There seems to be a way we can make every one happy, I copied this from The Samba.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=255392
There is no reason it has to be an either/or (forum or list). There are tools out there that integrate the two formats in such a way that a list can co-exist with a forum. Messages sent to an email list are automatically reflected on the forum and vice versa. Completely transparent to the user.

In fact, I believe this is what those who favor a forum REALLY want/need! There is a wealth of information and a very active community on 356Talk, and you want to build on top of that. To create a separate structure that won't include the contributions of the email list is no better than just using Pelican or Rennlist. Why start from scratch when you don't have to?

BertBeagle 02-16-2008 09:52 AM

There's the open invite - everyone please do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by super9064 (Post 3766680)
Those who feel that the talk list should be changed to a forum please contact the Registry president. If you are a member of the registry let him know your preference and if you are a former member, and would rejoin if the format was changed, please let him know that as well. There is a very vocal minority in that club that is very resistant to change, lets let them know how the rest of us feel. SmileWavy


Chuck House, President

ChuckHouse@356registry.org


912UK 02-27-2008 02:32 PM

Personaly I would hang fire as things may be changing

But your right 356talk I think now has had it's day it's not bad , just out of date..


Heres to the future;)

shat 03-25-2008 11:48 AM

Hello,
Since I joined this forum about (20 minutes ago), I figured I'd start here.

The 356Talk List is what it is. A bunch of older but wiser folks who above all else love 356’s includes me (more the older then the wiser). I don't like the format they (we) use but its representative of the personality of the List as a whole. I stumble (digest format) into more topics that I find I have an interest in by having to screen through some of the more mundane crap (like the ubiquitous argument over replicas or the ever present rants about evil-bay).

I joined this as an adjunct to the geezers and of course to both learn and impart the 356 experience.

BTW I’m 63 and way upside down in a numbers matching '62 S/R S-90 resto, but more on that after I install another suppository.
Steve Hatfield (aka shat)
Fort Walton Beach, FL

wlb 03-25-2008 12:27 PM

Check out today's 356talk thread on renlist.

jcnesq 03-25-2008 02:46 PM

Effective today, the Talk List has changed to a BBS format!!!!!!!! Yippee! And those who prefer can still receive posts as emails the old fashioned way (which hopefully keeps the older guys happy and, more important, involved. The forum is here:

http://www.356registry.com/forum/

912UK 03-25-2008 03:18 PM

:D:D How did I know that was coming.. te he.. it's been in the pipe line for a while now in test mode..

wait and he will rewarded.. A big thanks to Brian for his work and efforts and for letting me be part of the team of testers.. what an honor.

Right go get stuck in and enjoy!!! SmileWavy

BertBeagle 03-25-2008 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shat (Post 3848939)
Hello,
Since I joined this forum about (20 minutes ago), I figured I'd start here.

The 356Talk List is what it is. A bunch of older but wiser folks who above all else love 356’s includes me (more the older then the wiser). I don't like the format they (we) use but its representative of the personality of the List as a whole. I stumble (digest format) into more topics that I find I have an interest in by having to screen through some of the more mundane crap (like the ubiquitous argument over replicas or the ever present rants about evil-bay).

I joined this as an adjunct to the geezers and of course to both learn and impart the 356 experience.

BTW I’m 63 and way upside down in a numbers matching '62 S/R S-90 resto, but more on that after I install another suppository.
Steve Hatfield (aka shat)
Fort Walton Beach, FL

My daughter and her family live in Milton and we visit from time to time. I was down there for a week at Christmas. Wish I had know you were restoring a car. I am doing the same in NC.

BTW, don't look now but the talk list is almost no more. The forum debut was today about the time you were joining up here.

Next time I am heading that way I will get in contact.

Good luck with the resto.


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